The debt ceiling should be non-negotiable. The debt ceiling is non-negotiable. According to my understanding of the US Constitution, 14th Amendment, Section 4, The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred . . . shall not be questioned."
We just can't get anything honest from corporate media. Here we sit in our own little echo chamber preaching to each other, while the ruling class smirks and continues on their very carefully crafted greedy way. I fear we have to hit bottom ( I thought we had with drumpf) before leftist values like the common good, equality, diversity, freedom, fairness, and democracy can blossom. oh well.
Framing? What's to frame? McCarthy and the House Reps are blathering about a non issue. The money's spent. Live with it. Got a credit card? It's not a difficult concept. As for the Washington Post, that rag is about as bad as Fox at whipping this crap up into something good for a few trillion words of copy. They should be ashamed.
The Democrats have a hard time framing all items of debate and controlling their message on most everything. You'd think by now they'd figure out how to. I dislike Republican policy but man they know how to pitch the right words and control the verbiage.
This is still just the preseason and Biden's GOAT(?) team has proven its ability to close when it counts, peaking just when needed before the debt ceiling super bowl in mid-May. Whether this right wing charade is right or wrong is another question; but Biden is simply stating the obvious of having parallel track negotiations. I would love to see Biden simply issue an executive order that kills the debt ceiling and simply ignore it. Some leading academics believe there's a compelling case to be made to do just that.
Where’s the reporting of the enormous $7.8 trillion debt racked up by Trump and his Republican Congress? Or the willingness of Republicans to raise the debt ceiling three times under Trump? Or the fact that Republican-sponsored tax cuts on big corporations and the rich substantially worsened the debt?
All Democrats should expose this scam for what it is at every opportunity in the media every chance they get, shove it down their throats. Democrats need to start fighting like Republicans do but with the truth on their side instead of the lies on the Republican side. I live in West Virginia, a very red state, and I get on my local NextDoor and challenge all the right-wing liars on there with the truth and prove it with legitimate fact-checking links. I may not change any minds but I will not let them continue to spread misinformation and lies without being challenged.
There's not necessarily anything wrong with meeting with those involved with running our country even if his name is McCarthy. There are some areas where a compromise might be reached that might give McCarthy something to take to his devils in Congress. Just don't even think about Social Security or Medicare. Don't even whisper those words or me and my wheelchair army will hit the streets and slaughter whomever does so with our old medicine bottles. I'm sure some areas are a bit bloated especially those areas that the Repubs love. We'll find out just how serious the Repubs are about cutting the budget. I'm thinking in terms of the military budget. I'm thinking in terms of the police, and even the FBI and CIA. I'm thinking in terms of Homeland Security and Border Patrol. I'm sure some of you can think of a few more Repub favorite areas. Call their bluff. They will fold like trump in front of a grand jury.
I’m astounded by how many people in high and/or advisory positions fail to articulate a critical, basic point: WE HAGE A DEBT-BASED CURRENCY SYSTEM!!
Reducing federal debt means reducing the supply of circulating money! With all of the current needs of the country, how the hell would that a good thing? The level of debt correlates 1:1 with the level of economic activity. Do we want to see less economic activity in this country? There's a name for that: "recession".
The key issue is not the sheer level of national debt but whether the money is being used productively or squandered upon efforts that add no real value to the country. (Hint: further enriching those who already have dozens or hundreds of times more wealth than they could practically use probably falls in the latter category.)
This is why I don’t donate to the Democratic Party. Just to certain democrats The party line is to cave Too many corporate interests involved in the official party policies
The debt ceiling should be non-negotiable. The debt ceiling is non-negotiable. According to my understanding of the US Constitution, 14th Amendment, Section 4, The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred . . . shall not be questioned."
Copied from: https://secondnexus.com/deadbeat-limit-understanding-debt-ceiling
and https://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2023/01/17/deadbeat-limit/
The Deadbeat Limit—Understanding The Debt Ceiling
Why do we keep ignoring the 14th Amendment?
Thank you for your consideration.
Yep, could not agree more. The media is a bunch of equivalency idiots.
There should not BE a debit ceiling.
We just can't get anything honest from corporate media. Here we sit in our own little echo chamber preaching to each other, while the ruling class smirks and continues on their very carefully crafted greedy way. I fear we have to hit bottom ( I thought we had with drumpf) before leftist values like the common good, equality, diversity, freedom, fairness, and democracy can blossom. oh well.
It's so discouraging that the Dems are so bad at making their point or maybe they have no clue how to talk to the public.
It is We the People who are being "Framed".
Framing? What's to frame? McCarthy and the House Reps are blathering about a non issue. The money's spent. Live with it. Got a credit card? It's not a difficult concept. As for the Washington Post, that rag is about as bad as Fox at whipping this crap up into something good for a few trillion words of copy. They should be ashamed.
The Democrats have a hard time framing all items of debate and controlling their message on most everything. You'd think by now they'd figure out how to. I dislike Republican policy but man they know how to pitch the right words and control the verbiage.
This is still just the preseason and Biden's GOAT(?) team has proven its ability to close when it counts, peaking just when needed before the debt ceiling super bowl in mid-May. Whether this right wing charade is right or wrong is another question; but Biden is simply stating the obvious of having parallel track negotiations. I would love to see Biden simply issue an executive order that kills the debt ceiling and simply ignore it. Some leading academics believe there's a compelling case to be made to do just that.
Where’s the reporting of the enormous $7.8 trillion debt racked up by Trump and his Republican Congress? Or the willingness of Republicans to raise the debt ceiling three times under Trump? Or the fact that Republican-sponsored tax cuts on big corporations and the rich substantially worsened the debt?
All Democrats should expose this scam for what it is at every opportunity in the media every chance they get, shove it down their throats. Democrats need to start fighting like Republicans do but with the truth on their side instead of the lies on the Republican side. I live in West Virginia, a very red state, and I get on my local NextDoor and challenge all the right-wing liars on there with the truth and prove it with legitimate fact-checking links. I may not change any minds but I will not let them continue to spread misinformation and lies without being challenged.
The Dem’s just don’t know how to play
“Hard Ball” with the Republicans. That’s the only game that works in the Congress. They are pathetic at playing this game.
“The White House and the Democrats must do a better job framing the debt-ceiling issue. The media must do a better job reporting on it.”
Ain’t gonna happen. I’m not sure exactly why, but allowing gop to frame everything is Dems underwhelming M. O.
Why the NYT & WaPo allow the frame reveals their complicity in the capture of the fourth estate.
Meanwhile gop go into the meeting and come out of the meeting with NO PLAN except disruption.
There's not necessarily anything wrong with meeting with those involved with running our country even if his name is McCarthy. There are some areas where a compromise might be reached that might give McCarthy something to take to his devils in Congress. Just don't even think about Social Security or Medicare. Don't even whisper those words or me and my wheelchair army will hit the streets and slaughter whomever does so with our old medicine bottles. I'm sure some areas are a bit bloated especially those areas that the Repubs love. We'll find out just how serious the Repubs are about cutting the budget. I'm thinking in terms of the military budget. I'm thinking in terms of the police, and even the FBI and CIA. I'm thinking in terms of Homeland Security and Border Patrol. I'm sure some of you can think of a few more Repub favorite areas. Call their bluff. They will fold like trump in front of a grand jury.
I’m astounded by how many people in high and/or advisory positions fail to articulate a critical, basic point: WE HAGE A DEBT-BASED CURRENCY SYSTEM!!
Reducing federal debt means reducing the supply of circulating money! With all of the current needs of the country, how the hell would that a good thing? The level of debt correlates 1:1 with the level of economic activity. Do we want to see less economic activity in this country? There's a name for that: "recession".
The key issue is not the sheer level of national debt but whether the money is being used productively or squandered upon efforts that add no real value to the country. (Hint: further enriching those who already have dozens or hundreds of times more wealth than they could practically use probably falls in the latter category.)
This is why I don’t donate to the Democratic Party. Just to certain democrats The party line is to cave Too many corporate interests involved in the official party policies