Although: I think the INS should look into his application, because he has since confessed that he used a student visa to get into the country to work. Skum NEVER attended any school or college on that student visa, he got it simply because it was easier to obtain than a regular work permit and he was here illegally, having LIED to get the student visa and over stayed it...and thus also lying on his application for naturalization. Kick. Elno Skum. Out. Of. The. US.
Trump seems to have no problem yakking about deporting naturalized immigrants (and American-born children of immigrants as well). So why not entertain deporting this African immigrant, Musk?
I think as of yet, Trump finds gadfly Elon useful and his money also very useful (and needed). A mega clash of egos is bound to happen sooner or later. Personally, such a clash (plus the inevitable fireworks) cannot happen soon enough!
Is he? Did he come by all his money all on his own? Even if he did, why would you be jealous of someone so fucking evil and corrupt. He's absolutely doing nothing good with all his money, except weilding unruly power and greed. He's a narcissitic asshole (is there any other kind) and in no way to be respected no matter how much money he has. He's a LOSER as a human being! No heart, no soul, no conscience.
I've thought about that too. All kidding aside, it seems he is now more powerful than any U.S. President, and easily one who has become his puppet. Who would have the power to deport him? On top of that, would any of his power & wealth be affected by whatever country he resides in? I seriously doubt it. This is red hot alarming. There must be another way to deal with this. Democratic party: what's the strategic plan to stop him from destroying our Congress? How can we help?
Well, he is "American" from South Africa by way of Canada. But I think we should point out that he is not a "Natural Born Citizen"!
We have a saying in French: "If you want to fell a tree, push it in the direction it's already leaning".
Trump can't stand to be #2, so let's keep harping on President Musk, VP Trump.
And that goes for the rest of the clown car: We can easily excite their petty jealousies, like "Dear Representative VanOrden? Why don't you have any committee assignment when less worthy folks get 3-4? I'm outraged".
Also, when you contact your members, keep it very short: These folks have a lot to read and they already farm out reading their mail to their pages.
He can still do the same amount of damage from outside our borders.... and let's not forget the liason he has with vlad... Sooooo many sneaky ways to utilize money and other "vehicles" to fiddle with our elections. It's already being done; can definitely be worse.
He'll crash & burn like his vehicles before too long.
This week he told Republicans if the didn't vote for eliminating the debt ceiling, they'd never win another election. The house Republicans paid him no mind.
The Democrats haven't figured out a plan yet. They can't fix this situation by themselves. Where is the so called "deep state"? Obviously the deep state doesn't exist because it hasn't protected itself. I feel like the US is in a slow moving train wreck.
Rising damage from climate change causes more homes to become uninsurable, meaning harder to get mortgages, meaning a decline in housing prices meaning shocks to the financial system.
The Whitehouse speech has only 39K youtube views.
Our US news media overall is a colossal failure in waking people up to the climate threat.
Human foresight being what it is, it's lIkely our society will continue down this road until economic pain forces a change. Not a given, but that's our trajectory.
He is American *by naturalization" Remember the constant harassment Republicans gave Obama for not being a "natural born citizen".
Well,? This guy who, [just like Peter Thiel] comes from South Africa became a Canadian by virtue of his mother being Canadian. Then he came to the US, may have worked illegally here, [just like Melania] before being naturalized American in 2002.
There are many Dreamers who have been here longer than that..
[Yes. but they have a darker complexion and they are not rich].
At least if he pursues this line of thought, which is dubious because he has the attention span of a squirrel, the people he puts up as “moderate” candidates will be tainted right from the start, and the ads against them write themselves.
Oh, but he IS an immigrant. Becoming a citizen on paper doesn't "X" out his forever status as an immigrant. And, BTW, he's actually not the richest man in the world. That honorific belongs to Putin.
Putin has complete access to the undocumented billions (trillions?) in "revenue" generated every year by Russian gangsters trafficking worldwide in humans, drugs, pornography, gambling, etc. Gangsters don't keep books, at least not ones publicly accessible. Look at the documentary Active Measures for details. The Russian gangster organization is sometimes called Putin's Treasury Department.
Wow!, SINCE 2002. That long, hey? How long have Dreamers been in this country? Well, I suppose with a dark skin and no money, the US has to make it harder...
Of course he's an immigrant. He was not born in the U.S. He can be an immigrant citizen (however illegally he obtained that status). But Trump is attacking the millions of immigrant citizens in the U.S. who happen to have brown skin. Why should Musk be exempt from that label?
Or he's trying to make himself look like a "normal Dad" just taking his son to work, you know, to the Oval Office. Not normal, not no-how.
For real bizarro circus entertainment, have (the)Barron carry the mini-musk on his shoulders, you know, the President's son (or at least the contractual spouse's son) and the President behind the throne's son, or the owner of the President's throne's son.
Well, we can only hope that MoneyManMusk doesn't forget himself and start leaping about in one of his leaping-maniacal laughing episodes with his Mini-Me on his shoulders.
I'd like to introduce you to 30,000 children slaughtered in the past year who were no shield to there fathers, mothers or any of their family. Please, please, please keep that kid on your shoulders E. - 24/7/365. We'll call him a Hero, or any other label you want, just so long as he gets the job done.
Are you talking about Musk? That guy spreads his “seed” around like a dandelion but if they don’t live up to his expectations he abandons them. Ask his trans daughter.
Meanwhile, the Christian Nationalists want to ban IVF for ordinary people while praising sociopathic narcissists like Musk and Trump. I should note, though that Trump had his children in the Christian Nationalist approved old fashioned way.
Trump and Musk suffer from the delusion that they are genetically superior beings. Believe me, that entire concept is crap. Trump is an unintelligent man who suffers from the delusion he’s intelligent. Musk is more intelligent than Trump, but is delusional enough to think that his money making skills enable him to assume he knows how government should function, and that he knows about subjects about which he is absolutely ignorant. Musk and Trump also share two dangerous personality disorders which are incurable and dangerous to society: malignant narcissism and sociopathy. These are people no functional society should ever empower. Hitler and Stalin both had these personality disorders, and Stalin was also extremely paranoid. These personality disorders led to the deaths of millions of people.
In a previous thread, your comments were deleted ffor doing the exact same thing of taking over conversations utilizing facts no related to the conversation.
I feel that way. I am reminded of a scene in War and Peace where the two warriors who have fought in battle against one another lay side by side on cots suffering from their serious wounds. All the reasons why they were at each others throats just fade away under their common humanity. It just saddens me to think how many have mistaken ideas on how to defend and support America and of course am concerned if those mistaken ideas are turned into action, esp. violent action.
Some have said with some fairness that we the people have been pushed to identify with extremists on the left or the right (whatever that means) whereas the majority hold common values, common goals for ourselves and our society. That is largely true despite many failings at times.
Im a mother and as a parent I love my child unconditionally. I would never disown my child because of their sexual orientation. I found it very offensive watching him carrying his son on his shoulders showing what a good dad he is. Think about the pain and anger his daughter felt seeing that.
Our country has a long way to go in terms of justice. When it comes to drug enforcement it’s worse. I’m sure you know that when a top drug supplier is busted they loose all of their assets. Home card art etc. The government then sells these assets at auction. Do you know where the money goes? It goes into the general fund. Now if the country really wanted to end the war on drugs wouldn’t you think the money should go toward rehab facilities? But they don’t want to win that particular war, it’s too lucrative.
Hunters story is tragic. I lost my brother years ago and it left a big hole in my heart. I felt like a part of me was missing. My parents were shattered and were in no shape to help me grieve, I had to help them. And I wasn’t the but of a political dog pile. Hunter has suffered enough. His prosecution was politically motivated. It was a joke and what did the likes of Marjory t Green accomplish other than shooting off her mouth? They didn’t work to improve peoples lives they worked to get spots on Fox News.
Best vehicle in the world??? Are you being sarcastic? Because according to what I have read about Teslas, they are FAR from the "best vehicle in the world".
As far as shooting rockets, I'm withholding judgment until space travelers Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, [left stranded at the International Space Station] come back... God know when...
I love EVs, myself, at least the concept of it. I can't afford one yet, but it's on my bucket list.
There are more and more companies, besides Tesla that are producing and selling EVs. My main beef with Tesla, and by extension Elon Musk, is that he insisted that the charging stations must have his proprietary device to recharge them. As a result, we have Tesla charging stations and all other EVs charging stations. That is wasteful: we now need 2 sets of charging stations.
The guy is greedy.
My other problem with him is that concept of "self driving cars". There are just too many things that can go wrong with them, and a good many accidents have occurred.
Perhaps he envisions these cars to be more common than they are so that such a car would be able to "see" all other cars? I don't know.
Many lawsuits accuse Tesla of misleadingly portraying Autopilot as a fully self-driving system, when it actually requires driver oversight, leading to a false sense of security and contributing to crashes.
"so keep telling yourself that"? I have no clue what you are babbling about there. And yes "my people" as you so comically call them, belong to the "green movement".
"A Number of people HERE have told me that YouTube is not a newSsource and not to use it to illustrate a point."
FYI, I have not, and I didn't see that comment. Un less it is AI generated Fake News, it can be a pretty good source, especially if you see other sources that say the same thing
A malignant narcissist is not controlled by orders, Rick. He is controlled by praise and compliments. Oh, and Elon is perfectly capable of enriching the malignant narcissist personally to the tune of billions of dollars. That makes this particular coalition incredibly dangerous.
Hate to disagree with you but as far as Trump is concerned he is following Elon's orders like a a hungry Puppy following his owner for dinner. My Motto "Who needs Putin we have Musk as Trumps Puppeteer.
You are naïve if you believe that "less bloat" will be used to the betterment of the "needy and and the poor and the homeless" unless you are putting Musk and his ilk in that category.
LOL. The chances of everything going well in three years is about as good as it went well in trump's first term. You remember he was well and truly trounced? Uh-huh. Dream on, skippy. I think even magas won't vote for him after he gives it to them the hardest.
We have a totally fucked up system for elections! Most of the states have a clear red or blue majority, so NONE of their votes count. A few swing states are close to 50-50. So how those swing is all that matters. When a few thousand votes out of 150 million are all that matter in an election, that is INSANE!
And can anyone have any confidence that their vote is even counted, or not changed? Can anyone have any confidence that ballots were not 'lost', or 'created'? INSANE!
And can anyone today believe that the delegate system makes any sense, where low population state votes get more credit that high population vstate votes? INSANE!
To make voting proper:
1) Funding for elections must be limited to the same amount for each candidate.
2) One person, one vote. period!
3) Electronic ballots with a Voter ID number tied to the actual voter in a secure 'safe' .
4) Voter access to the database of ballots by Voter ID, for checking.
Prices will go up & inflation with it if Trump applies his 10%-25% or greater tariffs on imported goods. The consumer. will pay those percentages, not the country from which imported and not the American importer; they’ll
just pass the cost on down the line to YOU & every other working poor American & middle class. It wont touch the lifestyles of the rich like Musk, Trump & their ilk.
Exactly what we don't need: more drilling. We are already culpable for the murder of future generations of humans so that we can live "in comfort." I would like to see us at least try to make Earth habitable as long as we still can. Can you imagine the terror and absolute horror those final generations will experience because of our selfishness?
Dream on. The economy tanked under Trump, and recovered under Biden. Tariffs alone cause prices on all imported goods to rise. Including food. Trump has essentially killed off Ford, Harley Davidson, John Deer, in his claimed quest to bring back manufacturing to the US.
Drill baby Drill? That is Putin's way to get money.
" The 2024 Atlantic hurricane season was a very active and extremely destructive Atlantic hurricane season which became the second costliest on record, inflicting at least $220 billion in damages and 400 deaths overall, most of which was caused by four systems: Beryl, Debby, Helene, and Milton."
"The most expensive hurricane season in the United States on record was 2017, when the total damage was over $300 billion after adjusting for inflation. This was due to two major hurricanes that made landfall in the United States during the season: Hurricane Harvey in Texas and Hurricane Irma in Florida. Hurricane Maria also devastated Puerto Rico during this season."
But, I guess you think Climate Change is a 'Chinese Hoax'.
If Congress hadn’t been able to come to a compromise continuing resolution, people who had their property destroyed by Helene would have received no help. Climate change intensifies storms.
Be careful what you wish for. JD was hand picked by the Silicon Valley oligarchs (of whom Musk is just the richest) for the specific task of outliving Trump.
Be careful what you wish on others regarding “chagrin” because I think better than even odds it’s your face that will be wearing the egg in three years.
But I do commend you on guessing how Trump cleverly plans to avoid the 22nd Amendment by appointing VP Mednenev as a sockpuppet for his third term. Maybe Musk and Vivek if they’re still persona grata will be nominated for co-VPs in the new term.
We don’t agree Musk is a genius. Based on everything he’s said, he seems to be a simpleton that everyone genuflects to because he’s the world’s richest man and has a couple successful businesses.
But otherwise his assertions as far as governance goes are colossally stupid and his I didn’t vote for any dictator to impose his megomanical whims on 300 million of his countrymen.
I think you got a sample yesterday of how effective the dynamic duos gonna be and they can’t just steamroll 535 legislators to do stupid.
I believe Norway is not selling teslas in their country anymore. From what I understand, it'll mean a lot less explosions since it's said teslas tend to explode a lot.
Lipo batteries 🔋 don't like cold and work better in warm climates. Tesla's most likely need more shielding to protect the batteries 🔋 magas hold muskrat as a genius tell him to fix it, personally.
Putin came to an agreement with his oligarchs that they would share their wealth with him. He also lets the computer crooks operate with impunity as long as they only target the West and leave Russians alone.
When does Elon get a secret service guard and a no fly zone over his properties? It is said that CEOs are erasing their digital footprint for security purposes. Please god, have Elon delete his social media.
Not to mention Putin’s fancy private train that he uses to travel around Russia. I also have no doubt Putin has ways to get around the Western embargo on him. North Korea is able to do the same.
SpaceX falcon 9 has 9 Merlin engines. Put him and 8 oligarch friends on the business ends of the rockets. Bonus the rockets are reusuable. A lot of Oligarchs could go up in following flights. Their bodies contribution to carbon emissions would have an outside good effect on climate legislation.
'The Oligarchs Meet The Sun, the biggest blockbuster documentary ever! Join in the crowds cheering as the world's most notorious fascists meet their demise flying into the sun!'
All republicans are. They're going to hand it all over to Putin in exchange for positions in the new dictatorship government. They will all bend a knee to Vladdie. Trump and muskrat will do more than bend a knee. They'll offer head.
"Red Mafiya: How The Russian Mob Has Invaded America
NCJ Number 184001
Author(s)
Robert I. Friedman
Date Published 2000
Length 309 pages
Annotation
This volume examines the growth of Russian organized crime in recent years, its increasing power in the United States, and the implications of these developments for the rest of the world."
Read Timothy Snyder’s Road to Unfreedom. Underline the names of people he mentions. Draw links between names when he provides a reference to a relationship with an intent. Pay attention to Russian cyber warfare goals to take over Western Europe and American minds to destroy the West. Follow the money and debts as well as who the Kremlin props up . Learn about which American reps show up on RT. Which ones spout exact Kremlin talking points.
It’s irrefutable but often western journalism has failed us. They’re also now funded by the wealthy. These wealthy oligarchs keep company.
Putin’s right hand man Dugin is behind much of the strategy.
Elon has extensive Sensitive USG Contracts, and a TS Security Clearance... Putin placed Bounties on our Troops in Afghanistan... Do You Think That Putin Is Our Friend?... Does Elon Musk Submit Reports To The USG Detailing His Conversations With Putin?
I tend to think that due to too much Video-Gaming, LSD, and Katamine… Elon now sees the World as a Video Game… He may have Hallucinations of Grandeur… Russia, and it’s Allies are just Chess Pieces to be Seized…
Multitasking is most likely a myth. Being super-busy and always rushing
from place to place is probably the result of 1) bad planning and
2) being led to believe that a person needs to learn to live at the speed of the newest digital device. That cannot happen and trying to do so is a waste of one’s life, eyes glued to the 3×4 square clutched by two hands.
Rick Sender, very subtle trolling. "You guys"???? You don't live on this planet, in the US? Wherever and whoever you are, you and the rest of us are going to feel the impact of Mumpism (Trump +Musk) and their malevolent governance and greed.
Rick, you are missing the point or maybe trying to? It was when he bought twitter X, and started talking publicly about politics that I and others became seriously concerned. It was not the R it was the obvious desire to control our country.
There is nothing "free speech" about using algorithms to continuously amplify one set of political views over others. Elon is guilty of what he accused Twitter of doing.
No body knew what he was about when he first came out with Tesla. Do you know that Musk didn’t create Tesla? He bought the very small company from two engineers then fired them so he could take credit.
I didn’t know much about him but when he walked into the Twitter building carrying a sink I thought “What a dick” the more I learned about him the more he sank in my regard for the guy. Did you know that when Biden had more comments on his post during the Super Ball he had his engineers change the algorithm so he’d get more likes. That’s not a Republican thing, that’s a big weeny thing.
Speaking of the border: Under Bush, illegal crossings went down. They remained down under two terms of Obama, and 3 years of Trump. They they started climbing quickly. They quickly climbed under Biden's first year. Then they stayed high for 2 more years. In 2024, they declined, apparently due to Biden's help from Mexico.
I would say that the evidence points to Trump doing something that cause illegal immigration to rise. - or to some other cause, not Biden.
I used to admire Musk, just because of Tesla. But I later learned that Tesla was started by two engineers. Typical engineers, knew how to design, but not how to make money or a business. So Musk, not a dummy, made promises and took over the start-up, kicking out one of the founders some time later.
Believe it or not, Musk is not an engineer, but a businessman. He could spot the obvious - it is great to own a monopoly. It is great to get government funding. So he has done both.
And, now seeing how politics can shape government policy, he is jumping up and down like a retard and taking advantage of the fools who believe Trump will do anything for the common people.
Musk raised lots of money and opportunity by cultivating an image of being a good genius. But now his image is being blown away by his corruption.
Thank you for suddenly speaking up here, after Elon's latest misdemeanors.
I'm sure he's impressed with your loyal adulation, but too bad Marc Andreessen already exults him as hiring only exceptional talent to become the most successful entrepreneur ever.
Would you qualify to be amongst them?
Not that it matters, since you don't get to share his wealth and power any bit, maybe?
Again that was the SpaceX engineers not Musk. He is not an engineer and he’s not a genius. He’s got a talent for making himself in the right place at the right time and taking credit for other peoples accomplishments.
Teslas value has declined by 55%. X has lost 78%. SpaceX is being paid for by government contracts so far 20 billion dollars. There were many failures with his rockets which the government paid for. I don’t know why the government privatized our space program I think it was a mistake.
My father was in the Air Force for twenty years. He helped develop the first spy satellites many years ago. He didn’t make billions or millions from doing that. He did it for love of country.
Elon plans to cut Social Security and Medicare and other social services from the little people all the more money for him.
And I have to ask you. Don’t you think being the head of DOGE while receiving billions in contracts from the government is a conflict of interest? Given his track record with Tesla and X what qualifies him to have anything to do with running the country?
Did you know why Trump wanted to lift the spending ceiling before he was in office? Because he didn’t want it on his presidential history, he wanted it on Biden’s. And what was that extra debt spending
for? Tax breaks for billionaires and corporation. The Republicans of today are not like your dads or my dads Republicans. They are an elitist oligarchy that cleverly fooled the MAGAs. It will fail I’m just concerned about how many people will suffer these next for years.
I too think it’s a serious mistake to privatize space exploration. We need to start strict enforcement of our anti monopoly laws, but that won’t happen again.
We building rockets and sewing electric cars has nothing to do with our politics and our everyday life now he has decided that rockets and electric cars isn’t enough for him. He is desperate for more power and now he’s involved in our politics. That’s why people are speaking against him now you have to be a fool, not to even understand that!
You needn't "think" it; he's made it quite clear. This German video has English subtitles available and is very informative (from two years ago no less!).
Rump was always a malignant narcissist. Wouldn't rent his NY condos to African Americans. Bought a modeling agency so he could fu*k all the models (close friend of mine heard him say this). Had affairs while his wives were pregnant. America's Sweetheart? He is nothing but a con artist, snake oil salesman. Keep the public entertained while drugging them and raping them.
Re EM, my partner and I would not buy Teslas. EM is as racist and arrogant as Rump. Both of them fit the description of autocrats. This was no landslide, and the press acts as though both of the fu*kers are president already.
If the social net and government services (roads, schools, clean water and air, police protection, public defenders, unspoiled open space--BLM) go south quickly enough, his supporters will notice. Of course they will try to blame Biden administration. Republicans have been planning this takeover step by step since Reagan.
We are watching and listening, and I have my poster board and acrylics ready.
Fred Trump, Sr. was responsible for cultivating Donald’s sociopathy as well. Trump naturally got along well with Roy Cohn because of their mutual sociopathy, but when Cohn became sick with AIDS, Trump had already turned his back on Cohn.
What good are "poster board and acrylics" when the fascist party controls the Presidency, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court, and most state legislatures? Not to mention, it has the support of most law enforcement agencies and the rank-and-file military. I don't see how poster board and acrylics can overcome such amassed, overwhelming political power.
Clinton and Obama were elitists and narcissistic but not what I call malignant by any stretch. Clinton's affair was with a consenting adult and she kissed and told.
One of his affairs, sure. But one of the Donald’s master strokes in 2016 was to invite women wronged by the Klintonnisters (both Bill and Ofbill), up to and including actual rape, to the second debate.
The look on Bill’s face alone was worth watching the debate.
He really wasn't America's sweetheart. I didn't know anyone who watched it and I lived in Texas and Arkansas during that time. No one ever came into work asking if others watched last night's Apprentice.
“Reality” TV has done an immense amount of damage by selling unreality like “The Apprentice.” Trump was likely in need of more income and the show sold him like he was a serious, prosperous businessman. He is actually a fake and a con artist. One of the first things the producers did was to replace the shabby and worn furniture in Trump’s offices.
Other shows also showcased bad behavior as bringing rewards, like conniving, dirty tricks, backstabbing and undermining others. Richard Hatch won the first version of “Survivor” by doing all of these things, then went to prison after he was convicted of tax evasion. It’s hardly a surprise some people think these behaviors are acceptable. Fox News engages in the false claim that it’s mere “entertainment,” but people take their past and present reporting of lies, half-truths and misinformation seriously, and the mainstream media outlets are adopting their tactics.
You are a special kind of stupid if you think that a lifelong Democrat, who decides to run as a republican has anything to do with the fact that he’s being attacked right now. He’s being attacked because he has no policies other than enriching himself and his family And he is not a republican. He is MAGA and if you don’t know the difference, maybe you should put down your phone and read a book.
It doesn't take an R for Trump. He opens his mouth and most sane people recognize he is a con man. But some people fall for con men. My sister did, two times! Now is broke and sick and with no will to go on.
LOL, his one time buddy, and 'first klanpaign manager' Hillary was
the PRIMARY reason he made it to 1600; the 'lose/lose' 'election' farce is a patented tactic of the tag-team; see the much earlier "Bonesman Versus Bonesman" 'contest' of 2004....
You are special kind of stupid if you think that just because a lifelong Democrat decided to become a republican is the reason why people are attacking him. He’s being attacked because he’s trying to be in caring and he has no policy or agenda other than enriching himself and his family at the expense of taxpayers. They are has nothing to deal with it because he’s not a republican. He’s mad there’s a difference.
Musk is more dangerous than Trump. I didn’t think anyone could be worse but there he is.
He must be blocked from his DOGE scheme. So far he’s received 20 billion dollars in contracts from the government and he wants to say how our tax money is spent? That is a blatant conflict of interest.
Does the sun rise in the morning, so indeed, you better believe it that Muskrat seeks to immerse the U.S and western Europe in complete autocracy by and for oligarchs, he is plain and simple a Nazi
As long as "the world" treats him as if he IS "king of the world" he is allowed to believe that. Starting with the United States, and with our only hope being the Democrats - as disquieting as that fact is - they MUST put a full-stop to this whole scheme of putting un-elected self-dealing plutocrats in charge of our government with direct impact, and devastating intentions, to all of our lives!
U.K. - South Africa’s part of the Commonwealth - he’s allowed.
Germany - the AfD is the only hope. It’s the LEAST Nazi Party in the emerging Fourth “Reich”.
These days anti-Sémitism in Europe is overwhelmingly due to the recent invaders “invited” in by Unfrau Burqel. In Germany the AfD is the only Party to object to this.
This “supporting an actual neo-Nazi party in Germany” stuff is total bollox.
JD Vance’s suggestion that military support should be withdrawn from countries like Germany if they keep on suppressing free speech is an excellent one.
I mean, what’s the point of opposing Putin if you’re going to act like him?
A joke from Ottawa’s appropriate here:
What’s the difference between Justin and Putin?
One bars people from leaving the country, locks up opponents for far longer than legal (like you guys with the Jan Sixers, come to think of it, I hope the Donald not only pardons them but works out a way of compensating them), freezes opponents’ bank accounts, and has mounted police taser and baton journalists.
The other’s President of Russia.
To paraphrase Muhammad Ali, no Putin invited invaders into my country to replace me, eat my cats, drop off planeloads of illegals on my community by night, and calling me racist for objecting.
Elon has probably been playing too many Video Games, and Smoking too much Katamine... Elon is not a Degreed Engineer, Financier, or Coder... He just got lucky during Dot.Com 1.0 with funding from his Family, and used his Winnings to Invest in other Businesses... Like DJT, he Relentlessly Self-Promotes....
You have to give him credit. But that doesn't mean the world should put up with a meglomaniac. He has been given a lot of rope by Trump & Co. -- enough that he is vulnerable.
Reprise. WASHINGTON, Dec 17 (Reuters) - Elon Musk and SpaceX face at least three federal reviews over whether they have complied with federal reporting rules aimed at protecting national security, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.
This is not the first time the security practices of the SpaceX founder have been questioned by the Pentagon.
The Times said the new reviews were initiated by the Air Force, the Defense Department's Inspector General and the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and security. It cited eight people with knowledge of the rocket company and internal documents.
In September, DOJ asserted that Sergey Kiriyenko had created some 30 internet domains to spread Russian disinformation, including on Elon Musk’s X which was formerly known as Twitter. In October, the Wall Street Journal disclosed that Musk had been in contact with Kiriyenko and Vladimir Putin which Dmitry Peskov affirmed.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Kiriyenko
Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin said he had interfered in U.S. elections and would continue doing so in future, We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do." https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/ What does Musk know and if he does know, when did he know it?
Elon, and his Corporations have been given way to much 'Rope'... A Mantra of the Corporatists has been 'Private/Public' Partnerships... One of the Good Things of the First-Wave of Progressivism, was the creation of Public Utilities such as L.A.'s DWP... Compare the pricing, and stabilty of DWP against California's PGE... Space-X has cheaper launches, but its Workers are expendable, like Tesla's are... The problem is that because of the way USG works, NASA, the DoD, are 'Siloed', and funding is allocated in Short-Term Spurts... Thus we have arrived to at Elon Musk controlling Critical Technologies available to our Adversaries... Consider the 'Carve-Out', elimination, of the provision blocking the transfer of critical technologies to China in the latest USG Funding CR...
Who? J.D.? DJT? Putin? Elon's Brother Kimbal? A Public Trust? Not A Simple Question... Who signed for Elon's TS? Was it DJT? Normally to get one, it is an Arduous Process... For Some People It Takes Years... An FBI Background Check Is Just The First, Easiest Step...
The poor people who vote MAGA will not destroy themselves until they have destroyed the whole country first. Even then, they will not care, because the liberals will end up suffering, too. After our country is destroyed, the rich (who are Republican donors) will buy up everything and everyone. We will be their slaves. They will OWN us. They will make all the laws, so that they benefit from them, and not us. He who has the gold makes the rules, you know.
Forty hour work week? Gone.
Minimum wage? Ditto.
Laws to enable women to make all of their own medical decisions the way men are allowed to? Nope.
It’s the 1850’s that they want to take us back to, not the 1950’s.
I will be wearing this "Totally Unhinged Radical Liberal" t-shirt the next four years 👇
We should start with the Basics.... Repeal Citizens United... Strengthen Election Safeguards... Australia limits Election Contributions to $20,000 Aus. ...That way Elections can't easily be bought...
Well, the rodent king is the poster child that demonstrates >exactly< what I've meant and gotten blowback for years: "Capitalism is as inherently antidemocratic and backward in every way Communism is inherently antidemocratic and backward." Backward?
In times past, all capital resources were monopolized by kings, emperors, and other royalty. The point of fighting wars of aggression was acquisition of real estate and all the capital resources that real estate could provide - including the people living there. Think of yourselves as a capital resource to a plutocrat to get a vague glimpse into the state of mind those who had to suffer living under it - and are still living under it in a large part of the world - might have felt. The kind of fealty that sort of tyrant requires is the same as willingly agreeing to being the "liege's" chattel, to be disposed of as necessary. That's how the multiply convicted felon, jury adjudicated sexual predator and serial slanderer, along with his good pal "the rodent king" view US citizens. There's high probability some "interbreeding" will come to pass - as was always common amongst royalty. Compare that with what we've been hearing advocated, of late. Compare it with "family values," as well! Capitalism is about control of capital resources, and money is but one kind of capital resource. You and yours are capital resources, as well. Never forget that.
I can't disagree with anything you have said. Although I don't know why you would include a link to a message ending with a blessing on behalf of an imaginary being. Cheers.
I just like this guy. I agree with him in most cases, have messaged him that I'd be delighted to hear a sermon he gives in church should the opportunity arise, but cautioned him that I don't embrace a legendary friend in the sky, as I reminded him of Thomas, the skeptic. He loved my reply.
Having said that, I included his piece because it recognizes the condition we now face, affirms that what we are seeing is the reality of the condition we now face, and his blessing is just his way of saying "hang in there and keep the faith, folks." I don't see how that could do anything but be a pep talk we all need at this juncture. I also think it important for those of us who possess the - shall I say - gift of faith, that nobody here wishes to deprive them of it, and allow their faith reinforced by a good man they may relate to, that I happen to like, as well, and generally agree with on all but one issue - the same issue you take.
I would never want to deny anyone their gift of faith. I don't have the right. But I am troubled by the harm the religions have done throughout history and still to this day.
Oh how I'm enjoying this contact! No doubt you know that Idle is an atheist, but did you know that he does not like using the word because "it implies that there's a God not to believe in."
(PS I subscribe to MM as well...Just haven't had time lately)
Agreed. "Star Wars" and "Dune" are SciFi comments on theology. Dune is more a comment on messianic faith, whereas Star Wars is more essential, dealing with the "demiurge," which bifurcates as the light side and dark side of "the force." You see that play out in just about every major religion that comes down the pike today. Religions generally have a social side that unifies, as well as an antisocial side - the light side and dark side of the force (the demiurge). Here are a couple of links that discuss the demiurge you may find of interest:
Let me hasten to remind you I'm no bible basher. I just happen to have an interest in motivation that's sort of like the following links - following on Pavlov - that I find captivating:
You've absolutely intrigued me. Sadly, these days I find I need to come to places like this and a couple of other non-mainstream news site for rational & reasonably intelligent discussions and mental stimulation. Even more sadly, my life is in utter chaos due to fire & H2O damage forcing me out of me home, (I won't bore you any further) so I find my time (and mental energy) limited.
Melissa Brzescinski, he didn't win, I honestly think he cheated. Many computer experts have detailed how it was done and also think the numbers don't add up. It's not being a conspiracy theorist either, it's the reality of our situation. Recounts should be done but nobody's requesting them. At least I'm not aware of it happening. 😞
that's disconcerting because if Dems don't recognize what's going on or how the right wing is rigging elections...they are doomed to lose most elections no???
In that rapist pedophile's defense, he won 26% of the vote to Vice President Harris's 25%. Those that were too anti-American to vote are the cause of his plurality "win."
I think I read he gained 48% of those that DID care about America's future but were "exceptional" to VP Harris's 46%. Pretty pathetic they forgot Bunkerboy's FOUR recessions and 1,000,000+ kill count.
There IS still a future where he will not be able to kill us all: President Biden CAN still use the 14th Amendment . . .
There’s a lot of good evidence the voting machine codes were switched in specific crucial areas of the country. That was written up but not pursued, for some reason.
The Russians hacked into Polish election machines, but it was caught just prior to the polling days… it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. I forget which election but I read it in The Road to Unfreedom.
How is that even possible without breaking the rules? How do you even compare the two? For myself, it’s not about how wealthy someone is. It’s about actually being committed to doing the right thing in spite of donations and pacs that are strictly about getting their way. Aren’t they instructed to represent their constituents?
You'd think, but the 18th century language is vague on this point. It is "assumed" the Speaker of the House of Representatives, would be a sitting Representative of the same chamber. But it doesn't specify that in writing. The other problem of birth is sort of skirted around in Article2, Sections 4, 5, and 6. Upon removal of both President and Vice President the Speaker of the House of
Representative serves as "acting President" either until the end of the current Presidents term or a new election i called.
However this whole discussion is predicated on a continuing democracy. But the 2025ers prefer a theocratic dictatorship and a kick in the butt for the Constitution.
Apparently Putins propagandists started the whole Obama is not American thing. Trump picked it up. There is a straight line from Putin to Trump going back to the 1980s
The project 2025/ mAGA and extremist evangelical movements are aligned with Putin in as much as they consider a pure past, a mythical future where everything is ‘perfect’ and to get there they have to vilify people who don’t believe that, who are different. And to get there they have to repeat lies. But also tell lies that contradict the other lies. Putin did this internally in Russia regarding the Ukrainian War propaganda.
The Kenyan press is enthusiastic about a “Kenya-born US President”. Has Obama ever asked them something along the lines of “look, could you just lay off about this? It makes my job so much more difficult.”
There’s some mystery about his Occidental College records too. Apparently he received scholarships only open to foreign-born students, long before he knew he would be running for President.
Despite all the back-pedalling, it can’t be denied that the Chicago agency which helped him get Dreams published referred to him as Kenya-born Barack Obama in a glossy promotional brochure.
OK, there has been a lot of exaggeration, but stuff like that makes “Obama brought the birther stuff on himself” an accurate statement.
There’s the “first Muslim President” issue as well.
Musk also entered the US on a student visa to attend Stanford. He didn't fulfill that stated purpose, so he should have been deported then. His visa was obtained by fraud, so we should kick him out now.
Since he lied on his visa, his citizenship is equally fraudulent. Other visa/citizenship candidates are denied if they make a tiny mistake, let alone enter the country by lying about their plans.
Was he indicted before the statute of limitations passed? That is 10 years. Section 3291 of Title 18 provides that prosecutions for violations of nationality, citizenship, and passport laws, or a conspiracy to violate such laws, shall be commenced within ten years after the commission of the offense.
True. But if your family was stationed in a foreign country for the military or for diplomatic reasons, your child is a US citizen. That is why John McCain, born in Panama was eligible and Musk is not. Maybe there was no American citizens when the the
Articles of Confederation were written, but the Constitution replaced them and eligibility is explicit in the Constitution. Your statement about founding America is not germane.
But not native born. Like me, under our Constitutional democracy we are ineligible to be President. But if you toss out the Constitution (as the 2025ers plan), anyone can be dictator, tyrant, emperor, even Elmo Muck or Putin.
Elisa Riley, no, the speaker can literally be "anyone".…. however, if he's not a natural born citizen, he's/she's disqualified from serving as President. The NEXT in the line of succession for President (after the VP) would be the Senate Pro Tempore, if the Speaker is disqualified from serving.
I really wish that people would stop calling Musk the “richest person in the world.” Most of his perceived wealth is in stock and stock options in highly overvalued companies, the kind of house of cards that has a tendency to collapse on itself. Musk is actually cash-poor, and all or most of his maneuvering on Trump’s behalf will be with the intent of shoring up his own precarious finances.
Thank you for emphasizing this fact. His wealth is in "paper," grossly overpriced stock and unrealized gains. Wikipedia has a comprehensive write up on him and on Tesla.
Trump hyped himself as a billionaire back in the 1980s, and the tabloid press accepted his statements unconditionally. He pissed away Daddy Fred’s money on a series of bad business ventures, and the irony is that if he hadn’t been so blinded by his own ego, he really could have been the billionaire he falsely claimed to be. Trump could have invested Daddy’s money in the stock market and become a real billionaire instead of a millionaire up to his eyeballs in debt.
Bill Barr’s censorship of the Mueller Report was criminally irresponsible in light of what we know about Al-Sisi’s $10 million bribe to Trump in exchange for more favorable treatment of Egypt. The public had the right to know this to have a more accurate assessment of Trump’s corrupt behavior.
As news stories made clear, he was giving money only to select individuals, registered Republicans, and not even as many of those as his “contest” claimed.
I have long said that Musk suffers from Magellan syndrome. Let me explain. When Magellan famous for his ship's first circumnavigation of the globe reached the Philippines, he knew what he had accomplished and became unbearable in his all-consuming pride. Western man had already reached the Philippines from Europe pursuing the spice trade. The island natives found him unsufferable and offed him, which I why he never made it back to Europe.
While I don't wish that I Musk, it is time to take him off the stage.
What evidence is there that Elon Musk knows anything about efficiency? His takeover of Twitter was catastrophic, firing huge swaths of people and then realizing they were needed and having to hire them back, ultimately making "X" an uglier and more deceitful platform and a sliver of its former self. Tesla can't move cybertrucks to the point they're paying people to stay home. Any NASA operation that crashed as many rockets as SpaceX would have been shut down long ago. The only thing he brings to the table is his ability to financially power through his bad decision making, the essence of inefficiency.
Annie Weeks, yes ....a business man who really knows what he's doing.....files at least 6 bankruptcies...... bankrupts a CASINO.....who the fuck bankrupts a CASINO??!! That's beyond belief that anyone could be THAT FUCKING STUPID as to bankrupt a casino. But, to the low information voters (low brain cell voters), that escapes their mental genius. 🙄😒
His ego is as large as his wealth. And he was more of a libertarian than a Democrat. I have been reading his retorts to anyone who disagrees with him. I particularly like his “We coup when we want to coup.” Remember that one?
Musk’s power to threaten members of Congress with funding opponents will be taken away by Congress passing a strict campaign finance reform bill, which they should have done years ago anyway. But given that both sane Republicans and moderate Democrats are being threatened by MUsk, perhaps they can craft a bipartisan bill that would stand up to a Trump veto. Wouldn’t that defund the musk-rat?
Thankyou for the update! Having the media blink while Democratic norms are shattered is overwhelming. An unelectable drug addict,illegal alien from So.Africa with all the white supremacy baggage,whose subsidized Billions came from my tax dollars walk into Congress and stop legislation is simply infuriating. His next trick will be merging X with Truth Social to control the propaganda arm of Trumps Dictatorship. I weep for my country. I’m So Embarrassed to be an American right now.
The DNC should accept all billionaire contributions, dark or otherwise, that will support returning this nation to a democracy. Until we repeal Citizens United.
So let's see -- Democrats appointed 3 justices over 3 terms (1 per term) and Trump appointed 3 in 1 term. That's not equal at all.
If you extend the comparison to an equal number of terms for each party by adding in W's 2 terms in office, he appointed two so that's five... So in the last 6 terms, 3 of which were Republican and 3 were Democrat, 8 of the current 9 justices were appointed -- 3 by Democrats and 5 by Republicans.
But that's getting a little bit complicated, isn't it? So let's keep it simple -- the corrupt ones are Republicans.
Are you the arbiter on someone’s gender with no qualifications and no expertise? And Biden’s appointment is the most recent or are you calendar confused? Anyway. What is your point?
There is just one problem, and that is billionaire Democrats are no more eager to see antitrust and antimonopoly enforcement than Republicans are. The old guard of the DLC thinks that we are still in the 1990s and that we can back unregulated capitalism, which is actually crushing most people. John Stoehr is correct when he notes the DLC needs to let the new guard take over, Democrats need to establish a robust media infrastructure of their own, and actually start listening to all working Americans (not just white Americans) about bread and butter issues.
The Republicans have had thirty five years to set up an alternative propaganda network, starting with Rush Limbaugh and his imitators, and then with Fox “News” and similar outlets. The Republicans falsely claim mainstream media outlets are “liberal,” but their campaigns of bitching and moaning about mainstream media outlets have been successful. They have successfully influenced mainstream media by “working the refs” and getting them to engage in faux balance and bothsidesism. Mainstream outlets are now trying to emulate Fox and its imitators and in so doing are informing people even less than before. Wingnuts have successfully taken this campaign to social media and Musk wrecked Xitter and helped to put the worst president ever back into office so that he can enable our oligarchs to loot the nation and destroy what remains of our social safety net. Trump actually intends to stay in office and govern as a dictator.
Journalist Anne Nelson also notes there are huge differences in media outlets available in urban and rural areas. In rural areas, the outlets available are right wing talk radio and Christian Nationalist radio. We don’t listen to the same sources of information and wingnuts get away with lies about Democrats or anyone who is left of center being “Socialist” or “Communist.” They have no real understanding of the proper definitions of these terms, and they have forgotten that a mixed economy that allows for private enterprise as well as a robust social safety net works best. They cling to archaic, sexist and racist ideas about who is deserving and who is undeserving, and it is destroying our polity.
Waste of time to argue with a Trump fan. Anyone who thinks a person who has cheated others all his life - very documented - won’t keep cheating everyone including his fans is a lost cause.
Biden’s faults are irrelevant even if true. Trump is a con artist and the I told you so’s will soon flow. No matter how bad Biden might be if he is indeed bad, no one has a more solid track record of conning people than Trump. Ricky wouldn’t be trolling if he felt confident he made a good choice.
Mike Hammer, he's as bald as a billiard ball and got a shitty hair transplant job some years ago..... maybe the "hair" he got is falling out again.... Too bad it all doesn't fall out. That would put a dent in his overblown ego. 😂
Elon Be Gone is what I will call him and will continue to do so until one way or another he lives up to his name.
This whole episode is the strongest case yet for barring big money from politics, reimposing media ownership restrictions, and removing barriers to democratic participation.
If Musk wants a voice in politics, he is free to write and call his elected representatives and even run to be one himself. But he has no right to use his money to drown out all other voices and impose his views on everyone.
The worst part is how he used Xitter to spread false rumors, at least one doctored video of the Vice President, manipulated algorithms to allow threads favorable to Trump to gain prominence and openly violated his restrictions as a government contractor to campaign for and promote Trump. Unfortunately, the incoming maladministration will do nothing about these blatant violations.
Musk is actively interfering with the UK and German governments, supporting an actual neo-Nazi party in Germany.
Whatever his ultimate goal, he clearly wants to break Western democracies.
This scumbag needs to be stopped!
I wouldn't mind if this immigrant was deported!
Unfortunately, Skum is a naturalized citizen.
Although: I think the INS should look into his application, because he has since confessed that he used a student visa to get into the country to work. Skum NEVER attended any school or college on that student visa, he got it simply because it was easier to obtain than a regular work permit and he was here illegally, having LIED to get the student visa and over stayed it...and thus also lying on his application for naturalization. Kick. Elno Skum. Out. Of. The. US.
& not a Natural Born Citizen.[ This used to be sooo important under President Obama!
And Pres Trump too . . .
Trump seems to have no problem yakking about deporting naturalized immigrants (and American-born children of immigrants as well). So why not entertain deporting this African immigrant, Musk?
I think as of yet, Trump finds gadfly Elon useful and his money also very useful (and needed). A mega clash of egos is bound to happen sooner or later. Personally, such a clash (plus the inevitable fireworks) cannot happen soon enough!
🤣 I don’t care about HIS money I’m old, character and integrity is what I look at in someone I’d listen to
Is he? Did he come by all his money all on his own? Even if he did, why would you be jealous of someone so fucking evil and corrupt. He's absolutely doing nothing good with all his money, except weilding unruly power and greed. He's a narcissitic asshole (is there any other kind) and in no way to be respected no matter how much money he has. He's a LOSER as a human being! No heart, no soul, no conscience.
I'd be happy to donate towards a one way ticket.
"Donate?"
Put him on one of those "tramp steamers" headed to Johannesburg, SA.
That would work, too. Make him work his way across--I'm sure that would be a completely new experience for him.
Get on his Rocketship aka SpaceX and blast off to nowhere, and good riddens
ONLY if HE AND his $$$$$$$$$$ can never return or be used in any way shape or form.
I'll drink to that!
I've thought about that too. All kidding aside, it seems he is now more powerful than any U.S. President, and easily one who has become his puppet. Who would have the power to deport him? On top of that, would any of his power & wealth be affected by whatever country he resides in? I seriously doubt it. This is red hot alarming. There must be another way to deal with this. Democratic party: what's the strategic plan to stop him from destroying our Congress? How can we help?
If we keep calling Trump Musk's puppet, Trump will turn on him. Maybe he will even have him deported.
Well, he is "American" from South Africa by way of Canada. But I think we should point out that he is not a "Natural Born Citizen"!
We have a saying in French: "If you want to fell a tree, push it in the direction it's already leaning".
Trump can't stand to be #2, so let's keep harping on President Musk, VP Trump.
And that goes for the rest of the clown car: We can easily excite their petty jealousies, like "Dear Representative VanOrden? Why don't you have any committee assignment when less worthy folks get 3-4? I'm outraged".
Also, when you contact your members, keep it very short: These folks have a lot to read and they already farm out reading their mail to their pages.
Call them Thune 202 224 2421 Cornyn
202 224 2934
Murkowski 22 224 6665
In addition to short attention spans, they're non-readers among other vagaries of interpersonal relations?
He can still do the same amount of damage from outside our borders.... and let's not forget the liason he has with vlad... Sooooo many sneaky ways to utilize money and other "vehicles" to fiddle with our elections. It's already being done; can definitely be worse.
WTH! Musky giving money to Nazi groups in Europe
He'll crash & burn like his vehicles before too long.
This week he told Republicans if the didn't vote for eliminating the debt ceiling, they'd never win another election. The house Republicans paid him no mind.
The Democrats haven't figured out a plan yet. They can't fix this situation by themselves. Where is the so called "deep state"? Obviously the deep state doesn't exist because it hasn't protected itself. I feel like the US is in a slow moving train wreck.
https://www.sir.advancedleadership.harvard.edu/articles/the-big-myth-how-american-business-taught-us-loathe-government-and-love-free-market
We are on the road to societal collapse. A slow train headed to hell.
Not hyperbole, Not scaremongering.
The chief overarching threat is our changing climate which compounds all the other threats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkyU3x1unjs&ab_channel=SenatorSheldonWhitehouse
Rising damage from climate change causes more homes to become uninsurable, meaning harder to get mortgages, meaning a decline in housing prices meaning shocks to the financial system.
The Whitehouse speech has only 39K youtube views.
Our US news media overall is a colossal failure in waking people up to the climate threat.
The underlying economic policies of neoliberalism have created the situation we are in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3rp7Hs1Sjo&t=58s&ab_channel=ChillGoblin
Human foresight being what it is, it's lIkely our society will continue down this road until economic pain forces a change. Not a given, but that's our trajectory.
Muskrat bashes immigrants but he is one himself
He is American *by naturalization" Remember the constant harassment Republicans gave Obama for not being a "natural born citizen".
Well,? This guy who, [just like Peter Thiel] comes from South Africa became a Canadian by virtue of his mother being Canadian. Then he came to the US, may have worked illegally here, [just like Melania] before being naturalized American in 2002.
There are many Dreamers who have been here longer than that..
[Yes. but they have a darker complexion and they are not rich].
Mental illness and open graft in politics, we have finally gone off the deep end.
At least if he pursues this line of thought, which is dubious because he has the attention span of a squirrel, the people he puts up as “moderate” candidates will be tainted right from the start, and the ads against them write themselves.
HE'S NOT AN IMMIGRANT. HE'S BEEN A CITIZEN SINCE 2002.
Oh, but he IS an immigrant. Becoming a citizen on paper doesn't "X" out his forever status as an immigrant. And, BTW, he's actually not the richest man in the world. That honorific belongs to Putin.
Pootin. Really? Where'd you hear that?
Putin's net worth is estimated at over $200 billion but he has hidden billions of assets outside of Russia.
Putin has complete access to the undocumented billions (trillions?) in "revenue" generated every year by Russian gangsters trafficking worldwide in humans, drugs, pornography, gambling, etc. Gangsters don't keep books, at least not ones publicly accessible. Look at the documentary Active Measures for details. The Russian gangster organization is sometimes called Putin's Treasury Department.
BUT NOT A "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" 1
Wow!, SINCE 2002. That long, hey? How long have Dreamers been in this country? Well, I suppose with a dark skin and no money, the US has to make it harder...
and don't yell at us in ALL CAPS!
Of course he's an immigrant. He was not born in the U.S. He can be an immigrant citizen (however illegally he obtained that status). But Trump is attacking the millions of immigrant citizens in the U.S. who happen to have brown skin. Why should Musk be exempt from that label?
Those 2 things are far from mutually exclusive. IIRC, the immigrant doesn’t even have to renounce his previous citizenship anymore.
He's protecting himself from that by putting his six year old son on his shoulders as a shield. He's a sick mo fo.
Or he's trying to make himself look like a "normal Dad" just taking his son to work, you know, to the Oval Office. Not normal, not no-how.
For real bizarro circus entertainment, have (the)Barron carry the mini-musk on his shoulders, you know, the President's son (or at least the contractual spouse's son) and the President behind the throne's son, or the owner of the President's throne's son.
Well, we can only hope that MoneyManMusk doesn't forget himself and start leaping about in one of his leaping-maniacal laughing episodes with his Mini-Me on his shoulders.
. . . What, when, where and how with credible sources. Otherwise, please excuse yourself and do some homework. Read, read and read some more. Geez.
an EVIL mf
I'd like to introduce you to 30,000 children slaughtered in the past year who were no shield to there fathers, mothers or any of their family. Please, please, please keep that kid on your shoulders E. - 24/7/365. We'll call him a Hero, or any other label you want, just so long as he gets the job done.
He can also keep all of daddy's money.
Are you talking about Musk? That guy spreads his “seed” around like a dandelion but if they don’t live up to his expectations he abandons them. Ask his trans daughter.
They are IVF kids his first died of SIDS, so he goes with tech, now in his personal eugenics program.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexzhavoronkov/2022/07/27/elon-musk-and-other-billionaires-make-their-babies-via-ivf-and-surrogatesis-it-a-future-of-reproduction/
Meanwhile, the Christian Nationalists want to ban IVF for ordinary people while praising sociopathic narcissists like Musk and Trump. I should note, though that Trump had his children in the Christian Nationalist approved old fashioned way.
Trump and Musk suffer from the delusion that they are genetically superior beings. Believe me, that entire concept is crap. Trump is an unintelligent man who suffers from the delusion he’s intelligent. Musk is more intelligent than Trump, but is delusional enough to think that his money making skills enable him to assume he knows how government should function, and that he knows about subjects about which he is absolutely ignorant. Musk and Trump also share two dangerous personality disorders which are incurable and dangerous to society: malignant narcissism and sociopathy. These are people no functional society should ever empower. Hitler and Stalin both had these personality disorders, and Stalin was also extremely paranoid. These personality disorders led to the deaths of millions of people.
remember the brouhaha over ivf a few months ago?are discarded ivf products worthy of personhood-how will this play out?
Sorry, but there's nothing in me that allows me to call neo-Nazis and their moronic fellow travelers "my brothers."
And as a kid, I was a grade school Goldwaterite, so I've had plenty of exposure
You make an extravagant show of your patriotism that no one here values.
Rick:
In a previous thread, your comments were deleted ffor doing the exact same thing of taking over conversations utilizing facts no related to the conversation.
I feel that way. I am reminded of a scene in War and Peace where the two warriors who have fought in battle against one another lay side by side on cots suffering from their serious wounds. All the reasons why they were at each others throats just fade away under their common humanity. It just saddens me to think how many have mistaken ideas on how to defend and support America and of course am concerned if those mistaken ideas are turned into action, esp. violent action.
Some have said with some fairness that we the people have been pushed to identify with extremists on the left or the right (whatever that means) whereas the majority hold common values, common goals for ourselves and our society. That is largely true despite many failings at times.
Im a mother and as a parent I love my child unconditionally. I would never disown my child because of their sexual orientation. I found it very offensive watching him carrying his son on his shoulders showing what a good dad he is. Think about the pain and anger his daughter felt seeing that.
Our country has a long way to go in terms of justice. When it comes to drug enforcement it’s worse. I’m sure you know that when a top drug supplier is busted they loose all of their assets. Home card art etc. The government then sells these assets at auction. Do you know where the money goes? It goes into the general fund. Now if the country really wanted to end the war on drugs wouldn’t you think the money should go toward rehab facilities? But they don’t want to win that particular war, it’s too lucrative.
Hunters story is tragic. I lost my brother years ago and it left a big hole in my heart. I felt like a part of me was missing. My parents were shattered and were in no shape to help me grieve, I had to help them. And I wasn’t the but of a political dog pile. Hunter has suffered enough. His prosecution was politically motivated. It was a joke and what did the likes of Marjory t Green accomplish other than shooting off her mouth? They didn’t work to improve peoples lives they worked to get spots on Fox News.
What have abortions got to do with Elon Muck's influence in our gov't, Rick?
And, he has ______ children? Such a pathetic way to finance his self-propagation and aggrandizement.
Best vehicle in the world??? Are you being sarcastic? Because according to what I have read about Teslas, they are FAR from the "best vehicle in the world".
They suck with an S like him
Fact or not fact, still, my feelings are that Musk is a rotten person like Trump, two peas in a pod, only difference Musk has more brains.
Surely, you jest: Tesla cars have a terrible record, especially the "self driving ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uI_jxy2unw
And that's just yesterday.
As far as shooting rockets, I'm withholding judgment until space travelers Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, [left stranded at the International Space Station] come back... God know when...
Boeing, with our tax dollars put them there. Elon Musk, with our tax dollars ,offered to rescue them.
They were supposed to come back but their return has been delayed [again] because Elon Musk's SPACEX's Dragon Capsule experienced a delay.
So, yes, it's his job to save them since he volunteered to do so.
Yes, I think we owe them Tang, the fake Orange Juice, at least its popularity. There are probably other things too.
I love EVs, myself, at least the concept of it. I can't afford one yet, but it's on my bucket list.
There are more and more companies, besides Tesla that are producing and selling EVs. My main beef with Tesla, and by extension Elon Musk, is that he insisted that the charging stations must have his proprietary device to recharge them. As a result, we have Tesla charging stations and all other EVs charging stations. That is wasteful: we now need 2 sets of charging stations.
The guy is greedy.
My other problem with him is that concept of "self driving cars". There are just too many things that can go wrong with them, and a good many accidents have occurred.
Perhaps he envisions these cars to be more common than they are so that such a car would be able to "see" all other cars? I don't know.
Many lawsuits accuse Tesla of misleadingly portraying Autopilot as a fully self-driving system, when it actually requires driver oversight, leading to a false sense of security and contributing to crashes.
https://www.leverecker.com/blog/multiple-autopilot-vehicle-accident-lawsuits-filed-against-tesla/
"so keep telling yourself that"? I have no clue what you are babbling about there. And yes "my people" as you so comically call them, belong to the "green movement".
"A Number of people HERE have told me that YouTube is not a newSsource and not to use it to illustrate a point."
FYI, I have not, and I didn't see that comment. Un less it is AI generated Fake News, it can be a pretty good source, especially if you see other sources that say the same thing
SCUMBAG! in all caps
He'll stop himself. Be patient ..
Trump is Elon's puppet
A malignant narcissist is not controlled by orders, Rick. He is controlled by praise and compliments. Oh, and Elon is perfectly capable of enriching the malignant narcissist personally to the tune of billions of dollars. That makes this particular coalition incredibly dangerous.
Hate to disagree with you but as far as Trump is concerned he is following Elon's orders like a a hungry Puppy following his owner for dinner. My Motto "Who needs Putin we have Musk as Trumps Puppeteer.
You are naïve if you believe that "less bloat" will be used to the betterment of the "needy and and the poor and the homeless" unless you are putting Musk and his ilk in that category.
'Poor Leon, so rich, yet no one wants him anywhere near them but Trump.'
LOL. The chances of everything going well in three years is about as good as it went well in trump's first term. You remember he was well and truly trounced? Uh-huh. Dream on, skippy. I think even magas won't vote for him after he gives it to them the hardest.
There’s Hertz, and there’s not exactly. 10,000 total votes in several swing states made the difference of Biden “trouncing” Trump.
Bullshit! Biden won AZ by 11,000, 11,780 votes in Georgia, Pennsylvania by 80,000 votes, and so on!
We have a totally fucked up system for elections! Most of the states have a clear red or blue majority, so NONE of their votes count. A few swing states are close to 50-50. So how those swing is all that matters. When a few thousand votes out of 150 million are all that matter in an election, that is INSANE!
And can anyone have any confidence that their vote is even counted, or not changed? Can anyone have any confidence that ballots were not 'lost', or 'created'? INSANE!
And can anyone today believe that the delegate system makes any sense, where low population state votes get more credit that high population vstate votes? INSANE!
To make voting proper:
1) Funding for elections must be limited to the same amount for each candidate.
2) One person, one vote. period!
3) Electronic ballots with a Voter ID number tied to the actual voter in a secure 'safe' .
4) Voter access to the database of ballots by Voter ID, for checking.
So Wyoming with a populatio of about 600,000 gets 3 electoral votes and California with a population 39,000,000, and 54 electors makes sense?
That means electors per citizen in Wyoming is about 5, while electors per citizen in California is 1.4.
That is quite a typical red state advantage.
"The world was safe no wars."
Now that's a pretty ludicrous claim; i'm not gonna waste any time 'debunking' it as its own absurdity already does that.
Good lord, man. Do you not have a life? Spend time with your buddies and family. We don't need your constant comments.
Prices will go up & inflation with it if Trump applies his 10%-25% or greater tariffs on imported goods. The consumer. will pay those percentages, not the country from which imported and not the American importer; they’ll
just pass the cost on down the line to YOU & every other working poor American & middle class. It wont touch the lifestyles of the rich like Musk, Trump & their ilk.
Exactly what we don't need: more drilling. We are already culpable for the murder of future generations of humans so that we can live "in comfort." I would like to see us at least try to make Earth habitable as long as we still can. Can you imagine the terror and absolute horror those final generations will experience because of our selfishness?
Dream on. The economy tanked under Trump, and recovered under Biden. Tariffs alone cause prices on all imported goods to rise. Including food. Trump has essentially killed off Ford, Harley Davidson, John Deer, in his claimed quest to bring back manufacturing to the US.
Drill baby Drill? That is Putin's way to get money.
" The 2024 Atlantic hurricane season was a very active and extremely destructive Atlantic hurricane season which became the second costliest on record, inflicting at least $220 billion in damages and 400 deaths overall, most of which was caused by four systems: Beryl, Debby, Helene, and Milton."
"The most expensive hurricane season in the United States on record was 2017, when the total damage was over $300 billion after adjusting for inflation. This was due to two major hurricanes that made landfall in the United States during the season: Hurricane Harvey in Texas and Hurricane Irma in Florida. Hurricane Maria also devastated Puerto Rico during this season."
But, I guess you think Climate Change is a 'Chinese Hoax'.
If Congress hadn’t been able to come to a compromise continuing resolution, people who had their property destroyed by Helene would have received no help. Climate change intensifies storms.
'Only complete and utter destruction of the environment will save us!'
Insanity.
Here's a recipe for anyone who finds themself with lots of money, but no food:
Money Salad
Take 2 pounds of currency, any denomination or jurisdiction, shred to taste, dress with vinegar and motor oil and ENJOY!
Be careful what you wish for. JD was hand picked by the Silicon Valley oligarchs (of whom Musk is just the richest) for the specific task of outliving Trump.
Peter Thiel owns JD Vance. Vance is not and never will be competent to do his job. All he’ll do is lie as much as Trump does.
Be careful what you wish on others regarding “chagrin” because I think better than even odds it’s your face that will be wearing the egg in three years.
But I do commend you on guessing how Trump cleverly plans to avoid the 22nd Amendment by appointing VP Mednenev as a sockpuppet for his third term. Maybe Musk and Vivek if they’re still persona grata will be nominated for co-VPs in the new term.
We don’t agree Musk is a genius. Based on everything he’s said, he seems to be a simpleton that everyone genuflects to because he’s the world’s richest man and has a couple successful businesses.
But otherwise his assertions as far as governance goes are colossally stupid and his I didn’t vote for any dictator to impose his megomanical whims on 300 million of his countrymen.
I think you got a sample yesterday of how effective the dynamic duos gonna be and they can’t just steamroll 535 legislators to do stupid.
“If everything is going well”
That’s a pretty big IF.
'Predicting' what will happen when one grabs a butcher knife and starts hacking away at one's arm is a skill that GRADE SCHOOL KIDS should comprehend.
Many, if not MOST 'things in life' are quite predictable if one has a sufficient base of knowledge.
'If I stick my hand in that flame, I'm gonna get burnt!'
'Notorious convicted felons, the BEST POSSIBLE choice for 'leadership!''
OMG 😱 enough already!
DEPORT HIS ASS but not before SEIZING HIS ASSETS!
I believe Norway is not selling teslas in their country anymore. From what I understand, it'll mean a lot less explosions since it's said teslas tend to explode a lot.
Lipo batteries 🔋 don't like cold and work better in warm climates. Tesla's most likely need more shielding to protect the batteries 🔋 magas hold muskrat as a genius tell him to fix it, personally.
Yes and just to further piss him off give the money to a charitable foundation.
I suggest giving his money to the government, specifically to fund Social Security, Medicare, and childcare for all.
Then he'd just target and destroy charities.
Of they are even there as in real and legit. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Love this!
Yes yes yes
Musk's Interference is in Alignment with Putin's... Remember Musk is Chummy with Putin...
Putin is the second richest guy in the world. They talk.
Rumor is Putin is the richest,
who knows?
Putin came to an agreement with his oligarchs that they would share their wealth with him. He also lets the computer crooks operate with impunity as long as they only target the West and leave Russians alone.
He is, but he has to keep it in foreign banks
Putin is actually richer, he raped an entire country, and he has wealth hidden everywhere.
When does Elon get a secret service guard and a no fly zone over his properties? It is said that CEOs are erasing their digital footprint for security purposes. Please god, have Elon delete his social media.
His palaces.
Not to mention Putin’s fancy private train that he uses to travel around Russia. I also have no doubt Putin has ways to get around the Western embargo on him. North Korea is able to do the same.
I've long wondered about 'the powers behind the ransomware attackers.'
SpaceX falcon 9 has 9 Merlin engines. Put him and 8 oligarch friends on the business ends of the rockets. Bonus the rockets are reusuable. A lot of Oligarchs could go up in following flights. Their bodies contribution to carbon emissions would have an outside good effect on climate legislation.
'The Oligarchs Meet The Sun, the biggest blockbuster documentary ever! Join in the crowds cheering as the world's most notorious fascists meet their demise flying into the sun!'
The fate they could see coming!
Tesla was the biggest reason. $7500 tax credits each. And Carbon credits paid by his competitors. A much bigger reason than Space X.
All republicans are. They're going to hand it all over to Putin in exchange for positions in the new dictatorship government. They will all bend a knee to Vladdie. Trump and muskrat will do more than bend a knee. They'll offer head.
Hence their name: Red Russian Republican Party.
"Red Mafiya: How The Russian Mob Has Invaded America
NCJ Number 184001
Author(s)
Robert I. Friedman
Date Published 2000
Length 309 pages
Annotation
This volume examines the growth of Russian organized crime in recent years, its increasing power in the United States, and the implications of these developments for the rest of the world."
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/red-mafiya-how-russian-mob-has-invaded-america
"Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America" by Robert I. Friedman
A superb introduction to the new face of organized crime is rife with tales of amputation, castration and blood-sprayed trophy blonds.
By MARK SCHONE
PUBLISHED MAY 18, 2000 4:00PM (EDT)"
https://www.salon.com/2000/05/18/friedman_8/
“Bend a knee”… a bit like you guys in 2020?
I think he just wants to take over the whole world.
Definitely Hallucinations Of Grandeur!!!
What does Putin do with oligarchs who get too big for their britches? Hmmm he assassinates them in very creative ways.
Windows 🪟
It all goes back to RUSSIA.
Read Timothy Snyder’s Road to Unfreedom. Underline the names of people he mentions. Draw links between names when he provides a reference to a relationship with an intent. Pay attention to Russian cyber warfare goals to take over Western Europe and American minds to destroy the West. Follow the money and debts as well as who the Kremlin props up . Learn about which American reps show up on RT. Which ones spout exact Kremlin talking points.
It’s irrefutable but often western journalism has failed us. They’re also now funded by the wealthy. These wealthy oligarchs keep company.
Putin’s right hand man Dugin is behind much of the strategy.
Elon has extensive Sensitive USG Contracts, and a TS Security Clearance... Putin placed Bounties on our Troops in Afghanistan... Do You Think That Putin Is Our Friend?... Does Elon Musk Submit Reports To The USG Detailing His Conversations With Putin?
5th columnists haver no loyalties to anyone but themselves.
So what business does Musk do with Putin? Other than cutting off Ukraine's communication?
Musk feeds Putin's need for interference with and control of tRUMP.
'He's such a good pet dog isn't he, Leon?'
Hahaha!.
I tend to think that due to too much Video-Gaming, LSD, and Katamine… Elon now sees the World as a Video Game… He may have Hallucinations of Grandeur… Russia, and it’s Allies are just Chess Pieces to be Seized…
Alas, he would seem to be but one of billions lost in that.
'You want to throw your life away on GAMES?'
We Shall See... All Comes To One That Waits... For The SW USA Indigenous, We Have A Saying... "Coyote Waits"...
Chum:
“Bait usually consisting of oily fish ground up and
scattered on the water“
He is such a talented multitasker—interfering with multiple countries.
Multitasking is most likely a myth. Being super-busy and always rushing
from place to place is probably the result of 1) bad planning and
2) being led to believe that a person needs to learn to live at the speed of the newest digital device. That cannot happen and trying to do so is a waste of one’s life, eyes glued to the 3×4 square clutched by two hands.
Rick Sender, very subtle trolling. "You guys"???? You don't live on this planet, in the US? Wherever and whoever you are, you and the rest of us are going to feel the impact of Mumpism (Trump +Musk) and their malevolent governance and greed.
It may be best not to feed the trolls
Yeah, and they choke on their vomit.
Mumps. A less hyped disease making its old return.
Rick, you are missing the point or maybe trying to? It was when he bought twitter X, and started talking publicly about politics that I and others became seriously concerned. It was not the R it was the obvious desire to control our country.
There is nothing "free speech" about using algorithms to continuously amplify one set of political views over others. Elon is guilty of what he accused Twitter of doing.
No body knew what he was about when he first came out with Tesla. Do you know that Musk didn’t create Tesla? He bought the very small company from two engineers then fired them so he could take credit.
I didn’t know much about him but when he walked into the Twitter building carrying a sink I thought “What a dick” the more I learned about him the more he sank in my regard for the guy. Did you know that when Biden had more comments on his post during the Super Ball he had his engineers change the algorithm so he’d get more likes. That’s not a Republican thing, that’s a big weeny thing.
In other words, he did a Putin versus Ukraine.
At that point, he will no longer recover.
Or that already long happened, this is the continuing plunge downwards.
That is so entitled. Your money has never compared to the actual USA soldiers who died for Vietnam.
Looks like you're comparing spare change to actually giving lives for a greater cause, money which you yourself don't directly give.
It's a despicable non-comparison,
especially after you go right on blaming others for something which you've sat on your hands and did nothing for.
Speaking of the border: Under Bush, illegal crossings went down. They remained down under two terms of Obama, and 3 years of Trump. They they started climbing quickly. They quickly climbed under Biden's first year. Then they stayed high for 2 more years. In 2024, they declined, apparently due to Biden's help from Mexico.
I would say that the evidence points to Trump doing something that cause illegal immigration to rise. - or to some other cause, not Biden.
So yes, it's your fault about being so ironic that things are not working better?
Neither fault Zuckerberg, nor find Musk blameless, perhaps?
I used to admire Musk, just because of Tesla. But I later learned that Tesla was started by two engineers. Typical engineers, knew how to design, but not how to make money or a business. So Musk, not a dummy, made promises and took over the start-up, kicking out one of the founders some time later.
Believe it or not, Musk is not an engineer, but a businessman. He could spot the obvious - it is great to own a monopoly. It is great to get government funding. So he has done both.
And, now seeing how politics can shape government policy, he is jumping up and down like a retard and taking advantage of the fools who believe Trump will do anything for the common people.
Musk raised lots of money and opportunity by cultivating an image of being a good genius. But now his image is being blown away by his corruption.
Thank you for suddenly speaking up here, after Elon's latest misdemeanors.
I'm sure he's impressed with your loyal adulation, but too bad Marc Andreessen already exults him as hiring only exceptional talent to become the most successful entrepreneur ever.
Would you qualify to be amongst them?
Not that it matters, since you don't get to share his wealth and power any bit, maybe?
Again that was the SpaceX engineers not Musk. He is not an engineer and he’s not a genius. He’s got a talent for making himself in the right place at the right time and taking credit for other peoples accomplishments.
Teslas value has declined by 55%. X has lost 78%. SpaceX is being paid for by government contracts so far 20 billion dollars. There were many failures with his rockets which the government paid for. I don’t know why the government privatized our space program I think it was a mistake.
My father was in the Air Force for twenty years. He helped develop the first spy satellites many years ago. He didn’t make billions or millions from doing that. He did it for love of country.
Elon plans to cut Social Security and Medicare and other social services from the little people all the more money for him.
And I have to ask you. Don’t you think being the head of DOGE while receiving billions in contracts from the government is a conflict of interest? Given his track record with Tesla and X what qualifies him to have anything to do with running the country?
Did you know why Trump wanted to lift the spending ceiling before he was in office? Because he didn’t want it on his presidential history, he wanted it on Biden’s. And what was that extra debt spending
for? Tax breaks for billionaires and corporation. The Republicans of today are not like your dads or my dads Republicans. They are an elitist oligarchy that cleverly fooled the MAGAs. It will fail I’m just concerned about how many people will suffer these next for years.
I too think it’s a serious mistake to privatize space exploration. We need to start strict enforcement of our anti monopoly laws, but that won’t happen again.
Unfortunately "conflicts of interest" seem to have become MANDATORY in the past few decades...
Henry Ford?
https://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/Hitlers-carmaker
https://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/Hitlers-carmaker-Part-II
Of course, Al Sloan was no better.
https://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/Car-wars-Doing-business-with-the-Nazis
https://www.jta.org/archive/hitlers-carmaker-part-4-the-last-word-how-will-posterity-remember-general-motors-conduct
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/general-motors-and-the-third-reich
American fascism has a long, long history, predating the existence of the country even.
Trolls post here.
It may be best not to feed the trolls
Or do so till they gag.
Eat so much that they get sick of eating; and choke; and drown pinned under.
Indeed, that's another option.
We building rockets and sewing electric cars has nothing to do with our politics and our everyday life now he has decided that rockets and electric cars isn’t enough for him. He is desperate for more power and now he’s involved in our politics. That’s why people are speaking against him now you have to be a fool, not to even understand that!
I think he wants World Dominance- like all the other evil villains. Perhaps “King of the World”!
You needn't "think" it; he's made it quite clear. This German video has English subtitles available and is very informative (from two years ago no less!).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKY5pOcEn4U
OMG! That was a wild ride!
'Comic book style Super-Villains, the kinds of heads of government EVERYONE wants!'
/s
I just want to point out that the Republican party in the U.S. is every bit as neo-Nazi as the AfD, and in some ways more so.
Rump was always a malignant narcissist. Wouldn't rent his NY condos to African Americans. Bought a modeling agency so he could fu*k all the models (close friend of mine heard him say this). Had affairs while his wives were pregnant. America's Sweetheart? He is nothing but a con artist, snake oil salesman. Keep the public entertained while drugging them and raping them.
Re EM, my partner and I would not buy Teslas. EM is as racist and arrogant as Rump. Both of them fit the description of autocrats. This was no landslide, and the press acts as though both of the fu*kers are president already.
If the social net and government services (roads, schools, clean water and air, police protection, public defenders, unspoiled open space--BLM) go south quickly enough, his supporters will notice. Of course they will try to blame Biden administration. Republicans have been planning this takeover step by step since Reagan.
We are watching and listening, and I have my poster board and acrylics ready.
We will not go back. Count on it.
These crimes have been in the planning for generations; "hiding in plain sight" as the saying goes.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/
Fred Trump, Sr. was responsible for cultivating Donald’s sociopathy as well. Trump naturally got along well with Roy Cohn because of their mutual sociopathy, but when Cohn became sick with AIDS, Trump had already turned his back on Cohn.
What good are "poster board and acrylics" when the fascist party controls the Presidency, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court, and most state legislatures? Not to mention, it has the support of most law enforcement agencies and the rank-and-file military. I don't see how poster board and acrylics can overcome such amassed, overwhelming political power.
control of a do-nothing House.
Clinton and Obama were elitists and narcissistic but not what I call malignant by any stretch. Clinton's affair was with a consenting adult and she kissed and told.
One of his affairs, sure. But one of the Donald’s master strokes in 2016 was to invite women wronged by the Klintonnisters (both Bill and Ofbill), up to and including actual rape, to the second debate.
The look on Bill’s face alone was worth watching the debate.
He really wasn't America's sweetheart. I didn't know anyone who watched it and I lived in Texas and Arkansas during that time. No one ever came into work asking if others watched last night's Apprentice.
“Reality” TV has done an immense amount of damage by selling unreality like “The Apprentice.” Trump was likely in need of more income and the show sold him like he was a serious, prosperous businessman. He is actually a fake and a con artist. One of the first things the producers did was to replace the shabby and worn furniture in Trump’s offices.
Other shows also showcased bad behavior as bringing rewards, like conniving, dirty tricks, backstabbing and undermining others. Richard Hatch won the first version of “Survivor” by doing all of these things, then went to prison after he was convicted of tax evasion. It’s hardly a surprise some people think these behaviors are acceptable. Fox News engages in the false claim that it’s mere “entertainment,” but people take their past and present reporting of lies, half-truths and misinformation seriously, and the mainstream media outlets are adopting their tactics.
Here's some remedial reading:
https://www.villagevoice.com/rudys-long-history-of-quashing-trump-probes/
https://www.villagevoice.com/tag/donald-trump/
'I've been criming for decades, NO ONE is gonna stop me, do you hear me? NO ONE!'
You are a special kind of stupid if you think that a lifelong Democrat, who decides to run as a republican has anything to do with the fact that he’s being attacked right now. He’s being attacked because he has no policies other than enriching himself and his family And he is not a republican. He is MAGA and if you don’t know the difference, maybe you should put down your phone and read a book.
It doesn't take an R for Trump. He opens his mouth and most sane people recognize he is a con man. But some people fall for con men. My sister did, two times! Now is broke and sick and with no will to go on.
LOL, his one time buddy, and 'first klanpaign manager' Hillary was
the PRIMARY reason he made it to 1600; the 'lose/lose' 'election' farce is a patented tactic of the tag-team; see the much earlier "Bonesman Versus Bonesman" 'contest' of 2004....
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna4500423
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/magazine/when-hillary-and-donald-were-friends.html
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161007155910-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-plaza-hotel-1990s-large-169.jpg
'Believe your eyes, not the lies.'
You are special kind of stupid if you think that just because a lifelong Democrat decided to become a republican is the reason why people are attacking him. He’s being attacked because he’s trying to be in caring and he has no policy or agenda other than enriching himself and his family at the expense of taxpayers. They are has nothing to deal with it because he’s not a republican. He’s mad there’s a difference.
Musk is more dangerous than Trump. I didn’t think anyone could be worse but there he is.
He must be blocked from his DOGE scheme. So far he’s received 20 billion dollars in contracts from the government and he wants to say how our tax money is spent? That is a blatant conflict of interest.
Write to your representatives!
Is this for real??
He's an "AFRIKANER."
Whack parents too.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elon-musk-father-kids-stepdaughter/
It’s starting look as if his goal is to rule the world.
Truer words he!!
hw, he's a real sicko 🤮
Does the sun rise in the morning, so indeed, you better believe it that Muskrat seeks to immerse the U.S and western Europe in complete autocracy by and for oligarchs, he is plain and simple a Nazi
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-alternative-for-germany-election-far-right-nazi-past-rcna185018
He has gotten it into his head that he can be king of the world. I hope the world turns him on his head.
As long as "the world" treats him as if he IS "king of the world" he is allowed to believe that. Starting with the United States, and with our only hope being the Democrats - as disquieting as that fact is - they MUST put a full-stop to this whole scheme of putting un-elected self-dealing plutocrats in charge of our government with direct impact, and devastating intentions, to all of our lives!
U.K. - South Africa’s part of the Commonwealth - he’s allowed.
Germany - the AfD is the only hope. It’s the LEAST Nazi Party in the emerging Fourth “Reich”.
These days anti-Sémitism in Europe is overwhelmingly due to the recent invaders “invited” in by Unfrau Burqel. In Germany the AfD is the only Party to object to this.
This “supporting an actual neo-Nazi party in Germany” stuff is total bollox.
JD Vance’s suggestion that military support should be withdrawn from countries like Germany if they keep on suppressing free speech is an excellent one.
I mean, what’s the point of opposing Putin if you’re going to act like him?
A joke from Ottawa’s appropriate here:
What’s the difference between Justin and Putin?
One bars people from leaving the country, locks up opponents for far longer than legal (like you guys with the Jan Sixers, come to think of it, I hope the Donald not only pardons them but works out a way of compensating them), freezes opponents’ bank accounts, and has mounted police taser and baton journalists.
The other’s President of Russia.
To paraphrase Muhammad Ali, no Putin invited invaders into my country to replace me, eat my cats, drop off planeloads of illegals on my community by night, and calling me racist for objecting.
Dang Bob, that photo is as gross as I feel about him. Cringe.
Musk's ego is expanding faster than the universe and may soon go right past it.
Elon has probably been playing too many Video Games, and Smoking too much Katamine... Elon is not a Degreed Engineer, Financier, or Coder... He just got lucky during Dot.Com 1.0 with funding from his Family, and used his Winnings to Invest in other Businesses... Like DJT, he Relentlessly Self-Promotes....
You have to give him credit. But that doesn't mean the world should put up with a meglomaniac. He has been given a lot of rope by Trump & Co. -- enough that he is vulnerable.
Reprise. WASHINGTON, Dec 17 (Reuters) - Elon Musk and SpaceX face at least three federal reviews over whether they have complied with federal reporting rules aimed at protecting national security, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.
This is not the first time the security practices of the SpaceX founder have been questioned by the Pentagon.
The Times said the new reviews were initiated by the Air Force, the Defense Department's Inspector General and the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and security. It cited eight people with knowledge of the rocket company and internal documents.
Neither the Times or Reuters reported that Federal government contractors are prohibited from making contributions or expenditures, or promising to make any such contribution or expenditure, to any political party, committee, or can didate for federal office, or to any person for any political purpose or use. https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/federal-government-contractors/#:~:text=Federal%20government%20contractors%20are%20prohibited,any%20political%20purpose%20or%20use.
Others are asking about the nature of Musk's relationship with China.
SCOTUS has handed Biden the tools to fix it.
In September, DOJ asserted that Sergey Kiriyenko had created some 30 internet domains to spread Russian disinformation, including on Elon Musk’s X which was formerly known as Twitter. In October, the Wall Street Journal disclosed that Musk had been in contact with Kiriyenko and Vladimir Putin which Dmitry Peskov affirmed.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Kiriyenko
Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin said he had interfered in U.S. elections and would continue doing so in future, We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do." https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/ What does Musk know and if he does know, when did he know it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2024_United_States_elections
Did Musk violate both state and federal election law? In Pa, the penalty can be 7 years in a workhouse.
'It wouldn't even take a billion to buy off all of those I'd need to buy off to keep that from ever happening!'
Elon, and his Corporations have been given way to much 'Rope'... A Mantra of the Corporatists has been 'Private/Public' Partnerships... One of the Good Things of the First-Wave of Progressivism, was the creation of Public Utilities such as L.A.'s DWP... Compare the pricing, and stabilty of DWP against California's PGE... Space-X has cheaper launches, but its Workers are expendable, like Tesla's are... The problem is that because of the way USG works, NASA, the DoD, are 'Siloed', and funding is allocated in Short-Term Spurts... Thus we have arrived to at Elon Musk controlling Critical Technologies available to our Adversaries... Consider the 'Carve-Out', elimination, of the provision blocking the transfer of critical technologies to China in the latest USG Funding CR...
If he's nuts, a conservator will be named.
Who? J.D.? DJT? Putin? Elon's Brother Kimbal? A Public Trust? Not A Simple Question... Who signed for Elon's TS? Was it DJT? Normally to get one, it is an Arduous Process... For Some People It Takes Years... An FBI Background Check Is Just The First, Easiest Step...
By someone else who's also nuts?
'As if the uber-rich were ever subject to the kinds of 'laws' that the underclasses are...'
Deems plausible
Seems
Have You Ever Seen 'THX1138'?
...it's an old sci-fi movie...
George Lucas' 1st... The Citizens are Controlled & Medicated...
The poor people who vote MAGA will not destroy themselves until they have destroyed the whole country first. Even then, they will not care, because the liberals will end up suffering, too. After our country is destroyed, the rich (who are Republican donors) will buy up everything and everyone. We will be their slaves. They will OWN us. They will make all the laws, so that they benefit from them, and not us. He who has the gold makes the rules, you know.
Forty hour work week? Gone.
Minimum wage? Ditto.
Laws to enable women to make all of their own medical decisions the way men are allowed to? Nope.
It’s the 1850’s that they want to take us back to, not the 1950’s.
I will be wearing this "Totally Unhinged Radical Liberal" t-shirt the next four years 👇
https://libtees-2.creator-spring.com/listing/radlib
With PRIDE!
Musk, true to form, reacted to the terrible news out of Magdeburg with a post on X, calling Chancellor Scholz an "incompetent fool."
He supports a rigt wing German party. Is his interferece in Deutchland actionable under German law?
A photo says a billion words?
We should start with the Basics.... Repeal Citizens United... Strengthen Election Safeguards... Australia limits Election Contributions to $20,000 Aus. ...That way Elections can't easily be bought...
Good idea, but how can we achieve it with the far right in control of congress,
And bring back the fairness doctrine so that “news” is actually real and true!
Unfortunately I don’t see how any of that would happen given the current circumstances.
Do Post Offices still have photos of criminals on the loose?
Any photo looks like a mugshot in search of a sequence of numbers.
Could not wait to scroll down. Glad the Prof kept the first pgph brief.
he looks strung out 🤪
Also, what's with the lumps around his jaw? Does he have dental problems or does he keep wads of gum there?
Well, the rodent king is the poster child that demonstrates >exactly< what I've meant and gotten blowback for years: "Capitalism is as inherently antidemocratic and backward in every way Communism is inherently antidemocratic and backward." Backward?
In times past, all capital resources were monopolized by kings, emperors, and other royalty. The point of fighting wars of aggression was acquisition of real estate and all the capital resources that real estate could provide - including the people living there. Think of yourselves as a capital resource to a plutocrat to get a vague glimpse into the state of mind those who had to suffer living under it - and are still living under it in a large part of the world - might have felt. The kind of fealty that sort of tyrant requires is the same as willingly agreeing to being the "liege's" chattel, to be disposed of as necessary. That's how the multiply convicted felon, jury adjudicated sexual predator and serial slanderer, along with his good pal "the rodent king" view US citizens. There's high probability some "interbreeding" will come to pass - as was always common amongst royalty. Compare that with what we've been hearing advocated, of late. Compare it with "family values," as well! Capitalism is about control of capital resources, and money is but one kind of capital resource. You and yours are capital resources, as well. Never forget that.
https://youtu.be/0-55v4eGesU?si=CrqUlb-sDzXm-D3l
I can't disagree with anything you have said. Although I don't know why you would include a link to a message ending with a blessing on behalf of an imaginary being. Cheers.
I just like this guy. I agree with him in most cases, have messaged him that I'd be delighted to hear a sermon he gives in church should the opportunity arise, but cautioned him that I don't embrace a legendary friend in the sky, as I reminded him of Thomas, the skeptic. He loved my reply.
Having said that, I included his piece because it recognizes the condition we now face, affirms that what we are seeing is the reality of the condition we now face, and his blessing is just his way of saying "hang in there and keep the faith, folks." I don't see how that could do anything but be a pep talk we all need at this juncture. I also think it important for those of us who possess the - shall I say - gift of faith, that nobody here wishes to deprive them of it, and allow their faith reinforced by a good man they may relate to, that I happen to like, as well, and generally agree with on all but one issue - the same issue you take.
I would never want to deny anyone their gift of faith. I don't have the right. But I am troubled by the harm the religions have done throughout history and still to this day.
I'm betting you may appreciate and enjoy the following bit of irreverence:
https://youtu.be/csYnMGiB_5M?si=z9ip-uN-N7QtOmW8
Oh how I'm enjoying this contact! No doubt you know that Idle is an atheist, but did you know that he does not like using the word because "it implies that there's a God not to believe in."
(PS I subscribe to MM as well...Just haven't had time lately)
Agreed. "Star Wars" and "Dune" are SciFi comments on theology. Dune is more a comment on messianic faith, whereas Star Wars is more essential, dealing with the "demiurge," which bifurcates as the light side and dark side of "the force." You see that play out in just about every major religion that comes down the pike today. Religions generally have a social side that unifies, as well as an antisocial side - the light side and dark side of the force (the demiurge). Here are a couple of links that discuss the demiurge you may find of interest:
https://youtu.be/mTnQ__VSQzc?si=2ZmSAi91gIgBySAC
https://youtu.be/GWHLuZgixHI?si=aZg-PjfLPDuSMRGd
https://youtu.be/xfG0w4k6EA8?si=bdhUxgzS-W8U_nva
Let me hasten to remind you I'm no bible basher. I just happen to have an interest in motivation that's sort of like the following links - following on Pavlov - that I find captivating:
https://youtu.be/PI4JABNwB_U?si=rt7cTd9xtaaBpyqc
https://youtu.be/2CzH-iiGfgI?si=I-PA6shMxbeeJjDO
https://youtu.be/e7qt2-ff6Is?si=ThhY8Myr8r7sLKeJ
You've absolutely intrigued me. Sadly, these days I find I need to come to places like this and a couple of other non-mainstream news site for rational & reasonably intelligent discussions and mental stimulation. Even more sadly, my life is in utter chaos due to fire & H2O damage forcing me out of me home, (I won't bore you any further) so I find my time (and mental energy) limited.
But I look forward to exploring these links.
I’m not so sure Trump was fairly elected. It doesn’t make sense.
Melissa Brzescinski, he didn't win, I honestly think he cheated. Many computer experts have detailed how it was done and also think the numbers don't add up. It's not being a conspiracy theorist either, it's the reality of our situation. Recounts should be done but nobody's requesting them. At least I'm not aware of it happening. 😞
that's disconcerting because if Dems don't recognize what's going on or how the right wing is rigging elections...they are doomed to lose most elections no???
Just makes me think they don't care and they're in on it. I'd love to be wrong, though.
I've never been a big fan of the Dems...just the (significantly) lesser of the evils. But...YIKES
I've largely been convinced that 'the Ds' have intentionally 'been taking falls' for the 'benefit' of their 'tag-team partners' for generations.
Look up 'my daddy, The Poppy Bush,' "brothers from other mothers" and so forth.
I agree.
My vote disapeared, not on Hawaiitrax. Not the only one
In that rapist pedophile's defense, he won 26% of the vote to Vice President Harris's 25%. Those that were too anti-American to vote are the cause of his plurality "win."
I think I read he gained 48% of those that DID care about America's future but were "exceptional" to VP Harris's 46%. Pretty pathetic they forgot Bunkerboy's FOUR recessions and 1,000,000+ kill count.
There IS still a future where he will not be able to kill us all: President Biden CAN still use the 14th Amendment . . .
I wish he would.
I can only wonder how "None of the Above" would have fared on the ballot.
Pretty well, I'd guess, ESPECIALLY if 'scheduling a new election with different candidates' were a requirement.
There’s a lot of good evidence the voting machine codes were switched in specific crucial areas of the country. That was written up but not pursued, for some reason.
Ellen Holmes, 💯🎯
The Russians hacked into Polish election machines, but it was caught just prior to the polling days… it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. I forget which election but I read it in The Road to Unfreedom.
Rick, your mind wanders in a sea of vacuity.
Maybe if we ignore then, they will go away.
You are a Southerner, right? YOU are the one who's screwed, not me in New York! Your wealth of ignorance is astounding.
'Without ignorance, we'd have nothing.'
/s
Repeal Citizens United now! Dark money is ruining this country! We can not have millionaires bribing our politicians and our president!
Neither. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
I think I know the problem. You’re reading material. Where do you get yours?
Ah good word salad. Or is this Gish? Try to be concise. What is your thought. There must be one in there.
How is that even possible without breaking the rules? How do you even compare the two? For myself, it’s not about how wealthy someone is. It’s about actually being committed to doing the right thing in spite of donations and pacs that are strictly about getting their way. Aren’t they instructed to represent their constituents?
Because 'the financial offers' are so much better than any serf could ever possibly lure them with...
what?? Plse explain ...
Rick, apples and oranges. That's a false equivalency.
How can he be speaker doesn't the speaker have to be a citizen as he's 3rd in line for president?
You'd think, but the 18th century language is vague on this point. It is "assumed" the Speaker of the House of Representatives, would be a sitting Representative of the same chamber. But it doesn't specify that in writing. The other problem of birth is sort of skirted around in Article2, Sections 4, 5, and 6. Upon removal of both President and Vice President the Speaker of the House of
Representative serves as "acting President" either until the end of the current Presidents term or a new election i called.
However this whole discussion is predicated on a continuing democracy. But the 2025ers prefer a theocratic dictatorship and a kick in the butt for the Constitution.
True but they sure rammed it down our throat when Obama was president and complained he wasn't "American". Hypocrites they all are
Apparently Putins propagandists started the whole Obama is not American thing. Trump picked it up. There is a straight line from Putin to Trump going back to the 1980s
The project 2025/ mAGA and extremist evangelical movements are aligned with Putin in as much as they consider a pure past, a mythical future where everything is ‘perfect’ and to get there they have to vilify people who don’t believe that, who are different. And to get there they have to repeat lies. But also tell lies that contradict the other lies. Putin did this internally in Russia regarding the Ukrainian War propaganda.
And, of course, long before then, there was the Ford campaign, which gave rise to the rest:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/
Obama brought the birther stuff on himself.
Obama was born in Hawaii of an American mother who herself was born in the states. Hawaii is a state of the usa
Absolutely. And if Frank Marshall Davis were Obama’s biological father (similar to the case of our very own Justin Fidelsson,
https://medium.com/@leibowitt/of-course-fidel-castro-is-justin-trudeaus-dad-nobody-has-debunked-anything-4db6fc8a9042, another instance of fake news coverup), the question could have been nicely sidestepped.
HOWEVER
The Kenyan press is enthusiastic about a “Kenya-born US President”. Has Obama ever asked them something along the lines of “look, could you just lay off about this? It makes my job so much more difficult.”
There’s some mystery about his Occidental College records too. Apparently he received scholarships only open to foreign-born students, long before he knew he would be running for President.
Despite all the back-pedalling, it can’t be denied that the Chicago agency which helped him get Dreams published referred to him as Kenya-born Barack Obama in a glossy promotional brochure.
OK, there has been a lot of exaggeration, but stuff like that makes “Obama brought the birther stuff on himself” an accurate statement.
There’s the “first Muslim President” issue as well.
No fan of The Predator Drone here, but that birther nonsense sure was dumb.
Indeed, " this whole discussion is predicated on a continuing democracy" and honestly highly doubt that it will be.
YES!!!!
Good point.
A natural-born citizen
The speaker only needs to meet the criteria for the speaker.
Musk is a citizen. 2002.
Musk also entered the US on a student visa to attend Stanford. He didn't fulfill that stated purpose, so he should have been deported then. His visa was obtained by fraud, so we should kick him out now.
A citizen?
Since he lied on his visa, his citizenship is equally fraudulent. Other visa/citizenship candidates are denied if they make a tiny mistake, let alone enter the country by lying about their plans.
Was he indicted before the statute of limitations passed? That is 10 years. Section 3291 of Title 18 provides that prosecutions for violations of nationality, citizenship, and passport laws, or a conspiracy to violate such laws, shall be commenced within ten years after the commission of the offense.
Time to change the statute of limitations.
But he was born in Pretoria, SA.
The President has to be born in the USA.
Natural Born Citizen.
True. But if your family was stationed in a foreign country for the military or for diplomatic reasons, your child is a US citizen. That is why John McCain, born in Panama was eligible and Musk is not. Maybe there was no American citizens when the the
Articles of Confederation were written, but the Constitution replaced them and eligibility is explicit in the Constitution. Your statement about founding America is not germane.
Rick, most of your other comments I’ll just leave it at that😊😊🫒
But the one about the Indians is on the money
Time to send him back to SA... but they probably won't take him back! GH
"For the love of money is the root of all evil."
I'd rate this truism only 5 out of 10 ☆☆☆☆☆●●●●● because it doesn't offer solutions.
Isn't the implied solution to stop loving money?
He is not a natural born citizen. He was born in south africa
Time to review his papers.
The U.S. Constitution states that the president must: Be a natural-born citizen of the United States.
Not a “natural born” citizen.
But not native born. Like me, under our Constitutional democracy we are ineligible to be President. But if you toss out the Constitution (as the 2025ers plan), anyone can be dictator, tyrant, emperor, even Elmo Muck or Putin.
Elisa Riley, no, the speaker can literally be "anyone".…. however, if he's not a natural born citizen, he's/she's disqualified from serving as President. The NEXT in the line of succession for President (after the VP) would be the Senate Pro Tempore, if the Speaker is disqualified from serving.
Good point
I really wish that people would stop calling Musk the “richest person in the world.” Most of his perceived wealth is in stock and stock options in highly overvalued companies, the kind of house of cards that has a tendency to collapse on itself. Musk is actually cash-poor, and all or most of his maneuvering on Trump’s behalf will be with the intent of shoring up his own precarious finances.
Thank you for emphasizing this fact. His wealth is in "paper," grossly overpriced stock and unrealized gains. Wikipedia has a comprehensive write up on him and on Tesla.
Sounds like trump
Yep
Trump hyped himself as a billionaire back in the 1980s, and the tabloid press accepted his statements unconditionally. He pissed away Daddy Fred’s money on a series of bad business ventures, and the irony is that if he hadn’t been so blinded by his own ego, he really could have been the billionaire he falsely claimed to be. Trump could have invested Daddy’s money in the stock market and become a real billionaire instead of a millionaire up to his eyeballs in debt.
Bill Barr’s censorship of the Mueller Report was criminally irresponsible in light of what we know about Al-Sisi’s $10 million bribe to Trump in exchange for more favorable treatment of Egypt. The public had the right to know this to have a more accurate assessment of Trump’s corrupt behavior.
Paraphrasing the Cowardly Lion's rhetorical question in "The Wizard of Oz," What makes the Muskrat guard his Trump?
Greed.
If his financial position is true, why was he giving away money to anyone who would vote for
As news stories made clear, he was giving money only to select individuals, registered Republicans, and not even as many of those as his “contest” claimed.
He should have been prosecuted for this illegal campaign tactic.
Missailor@,me.com, ROI. Return On Investment.
"The following effects of ketamine may be experienced:
-feeling happy and relaxed
-feeling detached from your body
-lowered sensitivity to pain
-visual and auditory hallucinations
-confusion and clumsiness."
I got all that. I don’t need no stinking ketamine. lol
What?
Elon admitted he takes ketamine.
I have long said that Musk suffers from Magellan syndrome. Let me explain. When Magellan famous for his ship's first circumnavigation of the globe reached the Philippines, he knew what he had accomplished and became unbearable in his all-consuming pride. Western man had already reached the Philippines from Europe pursuing the spice trade. The island natives found him unsufferable and offed him, which I why he never made it back to Europe.
While I don't wish that I Musk, it is time to take him off the stage.
Sorry to say be it couldn’t happen to a scumier human! One can only wish!
Interesting historical story....I shall read on that. Yep...pride has been the downfall of many men
Sharon, yes ...."all the world's a stage.....". So he needs to be taken off the stage ⚰️
What evidence is there that Elon Musk knows anything about efficiency? His takeover of Twitter was catastrophic, firing huge swaths of people and then realizing they were needed and having to hire them back, ultimately making "X" an uglier and more deceitful platform and a sliver of its former self. Tesla can't move cybertrucks to the point they're paying people to stay home. Any NASA operation that crashed as many rockets as SpaceX would have been shut down long ago. The only thing he brings to the table is his ability to financially power through his bad decision making, the essence of inefficiency.
Its the same foolish idea that brought Trump to the Presidency the first time. “Oh he’s a businessman, so he really knows what he’s doing.”
Annie Weeks, yes ....a business man who really knows what he's doing.....files at least 6 bankruptcies...... bankrupts a CASINO.....who the fuck bankrupts a CASINO??!! That's beyond belief that anyone could be THAT FUCKING STUPID as to bankrupt a casino. But, to the low information voters (low brain cell voters), that escapes their mental genius. 🙄😒
GG, 💯🎯
Like in his companies? How do we know? Just asking for a friend.
His ego is as large as his wealth. And he was more of a libertarian than a Democrat. I have been reading his retorts to anyone who disagrees with him. I particularly like his “We coup when we want to coup.” Remember that one?
Both "Trump" and "Musk" are one-syllable referents.
A different one, perhaps...? (SF Bay Area?)
I hope you are on SS, Medicare and Medicaid and can afford $5 per tomato. No more food stamps either Rick.
I hope you’re being sarcastic
Stop! Prove it!
I do not believe he WAS elected sir. I believe Musk and star link rigged the election.
My vote disapeared nor on Hawaiitrax
Nope, just this one.
Musk’s power to threaten members of Congress with funding opponents will be taken away by Congress passing a strict campaign finance reform bill, which they should have done years ago anyway. But given that both sane Republicans and moderate Democrats are being threatened by MUsk, perhaps they can craft a bipartisan bill that would stand up to a Trump veto. Wouldn’t that defund the musk-rat?
That was supposed to read defang not defund. Autocorrect problems.
Thankyou for the update! Having the media blink while Democratic norms are shattered is overwhelming. An unelectable drug addict,illegal alien from So.Africa with all the white supremacy baggage,whose subsidized Billions came from my tax dollars walk into Congress and stop legislation is simply infuriating. His next trick will be merging X with Truth Social to control the propaganda arm of Trumps Dictatorship. I weep for my country. I’m So Embarrassed to be an American right now.
you too
In addition to threatening Democrats, he's aligned himself with the far right in the U.K. and Germany; I'm just waiting for Musk's Icarus moment.
The DNC should accept all billionaire contributions, dark or otherwise, that will support returning this nation to a democracy. Until we repeal Citizens United.
Absolutely. About the Supreme Court, all decisions made by the court since corruption appeared, need to be reviewed!
So let's see -- Democrats appointed 3 justices over 3 terms (1 per term) and Trump appointed 3 in 1 term. That's not equal at all.
If you extend the comparison to an equal number of terms for each party by adding in W's 2 terms in office, he appointed two so that's five... So in the last 6 terms, 3 of which were Republican and 3 were Democrat, 8 of the current 9 justices were appointed -- 3 by Democrats and 5 by Republicans.
But that's getting a little bit complicated, isn't it? So let's keep it simple -- the corrupt ones are Republicans.
Are you the arbiter on someone’s gender with no qualifications and no expertise? And Biden’s appointment is the most recent or are you calendar confused? Anyway. What is your point?
Really… gender bashing? Are you Shrek?
I thought you were done for the night. PLEASE
There is just one problem, and that is billionaire Democrats are no more eager to see antitrust and antimonopoly enforcement than Republicans are. The old guard of the DLC thinks that we are still in the 1990s and that we can back unregulated capitalism, which is actually crushing most people. John Stoehr is correct when he notes the DLC needs to let the new guard take over, Democrats need to establish a robust media infrastructure of their own, and actually start listening to all working Americans (not just white Americans) about bread and butter issues.
The Republicans have had thirty five years to set up an alternative propaganda network, starting with Rush Limbaugh and his imitators, and then with Fox “News” and similar outlets. The Republicans falsely claim mainstream media outlets are “liberal,” but their campaigns of bitching and moaning about mainstream media outlets have been successful. They have successfully influenced mainstream media by “working the refs” and getting them to engage in faux balance and bothsidesism. Mainstream outlets are now trying to emulate Fox and its imitators and in so doing are informing people even less than before. Wingnuts have successfully taken this campaign to social media and Musk wrecked Xitter and helped to put the worst president ever back into office so that he can enable our oligarchs to loot the nation and destroy what remains of our social safety net. Trump actually intends to stay in office and govern as a dictator.
Journalist Anne Nelson also notes there are huge differences in media outlets available in urban and rural areas. In rural areas, the outlets available are right wing talk radio and Christian Nationalist radio. We don’t listen to the same sources of information and wingnuts get away with lies about Democrats or anyone who is left of center being “Socialist” or “Communist.” They have no real understanding of the proper definitions of these terms, and they have forgotten that a mixed economy that allows for private enterprise as well as a robust social safety net works best. They cling to archaic, sexist and racist ideas about who is deserving and who is undeserving, and it is destroying our polity.
I think you nailed the issue.
"Injudicious" is the word which characterizes tit-for-tat escalation with later-regrettable consequences; "injudicious".
I’d buy that Kevin!!
Where do you find this information. Inquiring minds want to know.
Anything you have written in your comments. Don’t sidestep.
Maybe if we ignore Rick, she/he/they will go away.
No. He gets his kicks throwing shade.
Enjoy the autocracy, then.
Waste of time to argue with a Trump fan. Anyone who thinks a person who has cheated others all his life - very documented - won’t keep cheating everyone including his fans is a lost cause.
Biden’s faults are irrelevant even if true. Trump is a con artist and the I told you so’s will soon flow. No matter how bad Biden might be if he is indeed bad, no one has a more solid track record of conning people than Trump. Ricky wouldn’t be trolling if he felt confident he made a good choice.
Bye Rick. :-)
Have a nice nap.
Let’s take away his government contracts!
If ever there was a time to overturn Citizens United it was yesterday
What’s with that muskrat hair?
Mike Hammer, he's as bald as a billiard ball and got a shitty hair transplant job some years ago..... maybe the "hair" he got is falling out again.... Too bad it all doesn't fall out. That would put a dent in his overblown ego. 😂
Maybe he’s going for that Lex Luther look, Diane?
Mike, Mini Me 🤣
You know what they say about men like musk-o-vite, big ego, little tally wagger.....🍄🥕 😆
At least he doesn’t have to worry about shrinkage!😂
Mike, 🤣😂😆
Or Dr. Evil.
And where are the more recent cheek implants?
Cheek implants? Is there any part of him human?
With all his children, I’d say likely Aleggra
You know WSJ is a Fox publication? Fox got hit with an almost $1b settlement fee for lying. And we are supposed to accept what you say?
Ha! Mike! With all his money one would think he could get a better haircut!! GH
Did Musk ever consider that he is making a fool of himself and that the majority of people may resent his interference?
Like Trump, MuskRat does not care
Nope. And he couldn't care less.
Please don't go away angry. Just go away thank you.
Thank God.
Good night!
When you can articulate a position we will be happy to hear from you. Please include sources.
Elon Be Gone is what I will call him and will continue to do so until one way or another he lives up to his name.
This whole episode is the strongest case yet for barring big money from politics, reimposing media ownership restrictions, and removing barriers to democratic participation.
If Musk wants a voice in politics, he is free to write and call his elected representatives and even run to be one himself. But he has no right to use his money to drown out all other voices and impose his views on everyone.
The worst part is how he used Xitter to spread false rumors, at least one doctored video of the Vice President, manipulated algorithms to allow threads favorable to Trump to gain prominence and openly violated his restrictions as a government contractor to campaign for and promote Trump. Unfortunately, the incoming maladministration will do nothing about these blatant violations.