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An interesting discussion. I find Avnery's arguments considerably more convincing. Also I notice that while Kasher frequently accuses Avnery of putting words in his mouth, he does the same thing to Avnery in multiple places, for example by absurdly accusing him of identifying with terrorists, or by saying that "according to Avnery, an investigation based solely on the testimonies of Palestinians in Gaza, and not on testimonies of soldiers and commanders, is unquestionably reliable", something which Avnery never said. Obviously, a thorough investigation would involve testimony from both sides. Regardless, at this point, there is more than enough evidence that Israeli forces have committed serious atrocities, far more than can be excused by "necessity" (e.g., extreme brutality towards prisoners, or double-tap attacks on people responding to emergencies). Both Hamas and the Israeli leadership have committed war crimes and should be held accountable.

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