BTW: I've had a look at the link you provided and see the issue surrounds the Palestinian claim to a "right of return," that never seems to be mentioned elsewhere. That clarifies the whole hairball in that region greatly - at least for me - and what the ultimate "sticking point" is all about.
BTW: I've had a look at the link you provided and see the issue surrounds the Palestinian claim to a "right of return," that never seems to be mentioned elsewhere. That clarifies the whole hairball in that region greatly - at least for me - and what the ultimate "sticking point" is all about.
Yes, my тАЬon topicтАЭ comment referred to bringing the Middle East into this conversation at all by its original poster. Definitely off the topic by Prof. Reich.
Regarding the various links to the video essays, IтАЩm not sure I saw that, so IтАЩll revisit. One link was a CSPAN video of Sanders тАЬgrillingтАЭ of Bernanke. No grilling that I saw. Bernanke is a brilliant economist, and the exchange was what I expect of economists who truly have the welfare of this countryтАЩs citizens at heart. And, a careful listen will hear Bernanke agreeing with Sanders and clearly placing responsibility for changing conflict of interest laws on Congress, when it belongs. Democracies are hard thingsтАФprobably why Lincoln and others have referred to ours as an experiment.
I have been a progressive my entire life, and have a long record of voting for great, patriotic candidates that were defeated by authoritarian, anti-labor, war mongering opponentsтАФstarting with my first vote cast for George McGovern.
I say that because all high-level, detail-driven discussions of economics much be couched in pragmatism. Having great ideas is a start, but implementing themтАФand agreeing on the terms of implementationтАФin a democracy, is the crux.
ItтАЩs our good fortune to have someone like Robert Reich, singular or notтАФpropose and guide discussions as this. What I refer to as the 21stC American salonsтАФdigitized facsimiles of FranceтАЩs salons of the 17th and 18th centuries.
Make sure to expand my comment by clicking on that grayed-out text at what initially appears to be the end of my last comment. I want to make sure neither of us have to suffer through any more confusion in this distraction from my original reply to Paula.
Just to save you a nuisance of combing up the thread tryin' to figure out what I'm talkin' 'bout, here's the post I was replying to:
Paula Nov 29
Honestly, it boggles my mind that Mitch McConnell wants his grandchildren to live in a dystopia like the one heтАЩs creating. If he truly cared about them heтАЩd be working to build a better society. The cognitive dissonance is massive.
This is my reply in support of her observation:
DZKNov 29
Any thoughtful person should consider these two essays:
Let me hasten to add, the indentations group replies to a specific post together. Notice how each of my responses to you here - 3 of them - are indented following your comment:
"Yes, my тАЬon topicтАЭ comment referred to bringing the Middle East into this conversation at all by its original poster. Definitely off the topic by Prof. Reich.
(BTW: Bringing the Middle East into this conversation was off topic to both Paula and me, as well! I think he was intending to go after AOC and some of the more left-leaning Democrats.)
I think IтАЩm glad I identified his confused thinking and called him on it.
I donтАЩt think his posts about Israel (and obviously the human beings who live there) were anything but one falsehood after another. A collection of falsehoods that would lead anyone reading to the conclusion he drew after I quoted him.
His vitriolic response showed something else all together.
My contemporaneous thoughts on this tangential thread. Now, back to the ReidOut!
Good for you! His remarks were >indeed< cringe-worthy! But if at some point you happen to be at all interested in what a model of "red state" vision for what life should be like in the US for >most< US citizens, then check out those links. After all, we're >all< interested in the future destiny of the US here, and that's >always< on topic here. (Unless, of course, Mr Reich comments of foreign policy.)
I was on topic regarding the comment by "Paula" at the very top level of this thread concerning ol' Sen "Chins" McConnell, to which I was replying.
The links I use are at the top of this reply to Paula are on topic, and are strictly u-tube productions of an independent fellow interpreting data he cites as coming from the US Census - the premier statistical data collection agency in the world. As a former Regional Survey Manager for the Philadelphia region on the ACS survey - the monthly survey that keeps Decennial census data up-to-date - I was charged with gathering and protecting that very data for the Philadelphia region at that time. Of course, that time was over 10 yrs ago. I have no reason to doubt it's integrity for no longer being personally involved with gathering it. Further, you can track down the data and verify what he cites for yourself at census.gov . And just between you and me, I was a bit taken aback by the tirade about Zionism, that I decided to figure out what I was missing in replies to >my< post that had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
BTW: I've had a look at the link you provided and see the issue surrounds the Palestinian claim to a "right of return," that never seems to be mentioned elsewhere. That clarifies the whole hairball in that region greatly - at least for me - and what the ultimate "sticking point" is all about.
Useful, but half a world away from "on topic."
Yes, my тАЬon topicтАЭ comment referred to bringing the Middle East into this conversation at all by its original poster. Definitely off the topic by Prof. Reich.
Regarding the various links to the video essays, IтАЩm not sure I saw that, so IтАЩll revisit. One link was a CSPAN video of Sanders тАЬgrillingтАЭ of Bernanke. No grilling that I saw. Bernanke is a brilliant economist, and the exchange was what I expect of economists who truly have the welfare of this countryтАЩs citizens at heart. And, a careful listen will hear Bernanke agreeing with Sanders and clearly placing responsibility for changing conflict of interest laws on Congress, when it belongs. Democracies are hard thingsтАФprobably why Lincoln and others have referred to ours as an experiment.
I have been a progressive my entire life, and have a long record of voting for great, patriotic candidates that were defeated by authoritarian, anti-labor, war mongering opponentsтАФstarting with my first vote cast for George McGovern.
I say that because all high-level, detail-driven discussions of economics much be couched in pragmatism. Having great ideas is a start, but implementing themтАФand agreeing on the terms of implementationтАФin a democracy, is the crux.
ItтАЩs our good fortune to have someone like Robert Reich, singular or notтАФpropose and guide discussions as this. What I refer to as the 21stC American salonsтАФdigitized facsimiles of FranceтАЩs salons of the 17th and 18th centuries.
Make sure to expand my comment by clicking on that grayed-out text at what initially appears to be the end of my last comment. I want to make sure neither of us have to suffer through any more confusion in this distraction from my original reply to Paula.
Just to save you a nuisance of combing up the thread tryin' to figure out what I'm talkin' 'bout, here's the post I was replying to:
Paula Nov 29
Honestly, it boggles my mind that Mitch McConnell wants his grandchildren to live in a dystopia like the one heтАЩs creating. If he truly cared about them heтАЩd be working to build a better society. The cognitive dissonance is massive.
This is my reply in support of her observation:
DZKNov 29
Any thoughtful person should consider these two essays:
Concerning economics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMDuI-vWAS4
Concerning religious beliefs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB0URKxlg1k
Now consider their Congressional leaders - past & present - and draw your own conclusions.
The comment you reacted to followed immediately after the comment above.
Counterintuitively, because of all the back and forth thereafter, the addendum follows >below< the current exchange:
AND it's addendum:
DZK 4 hr ago
While I'm at it, quality of life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1g6iz-u-xU
That will make it a 4th comment indented under your last comment.
Let me hasten to add, the indentations group replies to a specific post together. Notice how each of my responses to you here - 3 of them - are indented following your comment:
"Yes, my тАЬon topicтАЭ comment referred to bringing the Middle East into this conversation at all by its original poster. Definitely off the topic by Prof. Reich.
(BTW: Bringing the Middle East into this conversation was off topic to both Paula and me, as well! I think he was intending to go after AOC and some of the more left-leaning Democrats.)
Think the guy was just trying to cause a distraction because my response to Paula "hit a nerve?" Just wonderin' what you think.
I think IтАЩm glad I identified his confused thinking and called him on it.
I donтАЩt think his posts about Israel (and obviously the human beings who live there) were anything but one falsehood after another. A collection of falsehoods that would lead anyone reading to the conclusion he drew after I quoted him.
His vitriolic response showed something else all together.
My contemporaneous thoughts on this tangential thread. Now, back to the ReidOut!
Good for you! His remarks were >indeed< cringe-worthy! But if at some point you happen to be at all interested in what a model of "red state" vision for what life should be like in the US for >most< US citizens, then check out those links. After all, we're >all< interested in the future destiny of the US here, and that's >always< on topic here. (Unless, of course, Mr Reich comments of foreign policy.)
Don't let 'em bait ya'!
Oh yes. I almost forgot to point out the obvious about the red state vision. Many red state residents seem prepared to kill and die for that vision.
I was on topic regarding the comment by "Paula" at the very top level of this thread concerning ol' Sen "Chins" McConnell, to which I was replying.
The links I use are at the top of this reply to Paula are on topic, and are strictly u-tube productions of an independent fellow interpreting data he cites as coming from the US Census - the premier statistical data collection agency in the world. As a former Regional Survey Manager for the Philadelphia region on the ACS survey - the monthly survey that keeps Decennial census data up-to-date - I was charged with gathering and protecting that very data for the Philadelphia region at that time. Of course, that time was over 10 yrs ago. I have no reason to doubt it's integrity for no longer being personally involved with gathering it. Further, you can track down the data and verify what he cites for yourself at census.gov . And just between you and me, I was a bit taken aback by the tirade about Zionism, that I decided to figure out what I was missing in replies to >my< post that had nothing to do with what I was talking about.