I believe the biggest reason tfg is throwing a rod at all this,is because he's never been held accountable for anything in his miserable life.When he was younger,his old man bailed him out,got him out of military service,etc.Then as an adult,he either sued the people he owed money to,or filed for bankruptcy.Again,no accountability.
So now he's being made to face the music.And despite all his screaming in Caps or threats towards the people who have his ass dead to rights,it ain't working out like he's used to and guess what, y'all,he is scared shitless.The thoughts of prison and being powerless and without all the control over everything is just terrifying to him.And it serves him right.I hope they throw the book at him,and then pick the damned thing up and throw it at him some more.
If this was any of us ordinary working class slobs under the same accusations as he's under,hell,we would have already been told we're gonna face a firing squad or spend life in Leavenworth,if not both.At the very least,he deserves the latter.
Hoping they give him everything he certainly has coming to him.
Melissa, Trump truly does deserve to spend at least some time in jail, but the problem is that he has learned all the techniques for bamboozling everyone, knowing just the right kind of balance of whining and threats to get people to do whatever he wants. Then, he has the support of the really rich white guys who want his incompetent leadership so they can get away with more tax evasion, get more tax breaks, and get more mergers that can create monopolies, just like when Trump was in office the first time. They know or at least believe their money will protect them from anything that happens so want the guy who will let them have whatever they want, in office. They know Trump is a toddler-man who can be manipulated as long as he can believe it was his idea. The man incited an insurgency. He threatened or bribed state officials and his vice president. He lied over 30,000 times in public while in office. Then he stole top secret documents, probably planning to sell them to foreign operatives for personal gain. We have a constitutional amendment that states clearly that anyone who has been involved in an insurgency cannot run for public office anywhere in the nation, yet he is running, and, so did the members of Congress who supported his coup attempt. Then, a Trump-appointed judge was in the mix for trying his stolen document case. That should never have even been a possibility! It seems to me state legislatures and secretaries of state should keep Trump's name off the ballot because of our constitution, but alas, it seems our amendments don't count for much with our Supreme Court except for the 2nd which they have warped far out of recognition and the 5th which they can use to say "I plead the 5th" to cover their lies. We are in trouble, but could stop a lot of it if We the People would together stand up to Trump's lies and bullying and that of his cult too.
We must all stand together for sure. And pray like we have never prayed before for The Almighty to have mercy on us to deliver us from this evil we are facing. Remember Jesus taught us that some evil needed prayer to release. I believe this is one to those times.
The evil that Donald is in bed with is the Neo-Nazis. "Never Again," has to mean Never Again. The world is being affected and not just the USA. Prayer is the key.
Prayer and Justice! Mostly justice at this point! Unless Jesus can appear and kick butt and make it stick! I think He gave us free will, but we have to USE it. Certainly those doing the judging need strength and courage! 'COUR" = HEART plus rage is Rage! The law and courage to use it.
Except prayer has no impact on any outcome especially if you expect some deity to intervene. What we need is an overwhelming show of opposition to the GOP at the polls.
And attend a "Not Above the Law" rally to show your support for the law and democracy. Click here to find one near you. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
J.Nol ; I pointed out in my comment that Justice is needed Over prayer. We need for our Courts to apply justice; and overcome Any fear that might inhibit them from applying the law .
To thank our courts for indicting Trump for his Jan. 6 crimes, people all over the country are attending "Not Above the Law" rallies to show our support for the rule of law. Go here to find one in your area: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Absolutely prayer changes things. Yes, we need each of us to show up and vote. We also need divine intervention to deliver us from the evil Neo-Nazis who have a 100 year plan to take us down. They are playing chess and what are we playing? Catch up?
All hands on deck is what I see. Vote and pray like our Democracy depends on it. Plus, vote by mail and stop these Republicans from tossing out votes is also needed.
Meanwhile. do something to help. Attend a "Not Above the Law" rally to show your support for the rule of law and democracy. Click here to find one near you. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Sorry, But all the research on prayer- legitimate research indicates that the only impact prayer has is to make the person who prayed feel like they've actually done something. Since there is nothing out there to respond to prayer, it's really an act of selfishness.
There exists a rather large contingency of Republican bottom feeders who have taken it upon themselves to attempt to suck the worm from the hook. Their position rests on the idea that the legal proceedings surrounding Trump are purely a political attempt to remove the former president from the election scene in the 2024 Presidential race. Basically what the other side of the aisle is saying, no matter what laws we break you can't come after us because we will consider it a politically motivated attempt to damage us in the next election. Self-emasculation is a difficult act to follow but through Trump's criminal activities, he has managed to accomplish a bloodless coup upon himself leaving the Republican party with a dysfunctional stud at the helm. Trump is good at only two things, being dishonest and lying, excuse me but I have to add extorting money under false pretenses from his naive constituents. The man is a criminal and the DOJ seems to have proof of the activities that would lead to his conviction. If the Republican dweebs that are making all the noise would just step back for a second and give our justice department the time it needs to present their case maybe the whole thing might come together and begin to make sense. If Trump is innocent he'll get his day in court, let the system play out unencumbered by party opinion. The Republicans doing all the complaining have no idea of the evidence the DOJ has at their disposal. Jurisprudence will prevail, just give it a chance. Tell Trump to hold his breath, it's a long way to the bottom of his cesspool.
The "Trumpists", or true believers that he is the second coming, simply want whatever he says he wants in the 2024 election. No matter what. If, G_d forbid, we wind up with this worse case scenario, we will find our nation in a very similar dilemma as was the Weimar Republic in 1933 Germany, when Hitler got the Kaiser to resign and put him in control of the government. That inter-World War event produced the most terribly destructive conflagration in history. And if we think that Trump at the helm again can`t have this kind of catastrophe, let the law do its thing, imprison or isolate him so he can no longer be a threat to the nation and the world.
Alan--Trump controls 50% 0f the Republican base. The total Republican party only accounts for 25% of all eligible voters in the country. The Democrats control 32% and the independents have the remaining 43%. Naive or not Trump doesn't stand a chance and his party knows it.
And to show your respect for the rule of law in this whole mess, attend a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I worry that on a jury there will be one person who sticks with a vote of "not guilty." But I am hoping that with so many indictments and trials, that at least one jury will unanimously decide "guilty" and that Trump will serve some time in prison. If that happens, then even if his core sticks with him, he will lose the election in 2024. Enough Republicans, Democrats, and independents will vote against him.
We canb hope. And meanwhile, we can take action to show our respect for the rule of law. Go here to find a "Not Above the Law" rally near you.https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Gary--Since the last election Trump's base has been shrinking. He lost by almost 8 million votes in 2020, if he runs again he'll lose by twice that, but will that make a difference to those to blind to see.
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You are confusing two persons. Jesus was a real person and he is dead. He did not give us free will. God is only hypothetical and it is speculated that he gave us free will. Neither Jesus nor God are going to do anything in this mess. We are going to need to work together to defeat the Trumpster.
I just finished watching and listening to Paul Kingsnorth.
I have subscribed and will watch more of his videos. Very interesting young man.
Bless you! I am also going to look into the Orthodox Christian Church to find out more of their history and beliefs. I was raised Lutheran. I left because they were not teaching the teachings of Jesus or following his teachings.
I just stumbled on to him myself. I found that I couldn’t disagree with anything he says in that video. Also looking forward to reading more of his work. 🙂
Get involved with your local legislative district Democrats. Maricopa County Democrat Party is working on organizing groups to call registered Democrats and encourage those who are not already on the automated early voter list to register for the AEVL because they killed the PEVL (permanent early voter list.) 80% of voters vote by mail in Arizona. The Republican dominated legislature is trying to chip away at this by removing people from the vote by mail list if you failed to vote in the previous 2 consecutive elections.
Actually, political action is the key,not prayer. Go here to attend a rally the day hs is arraogned to show the world that we stand for the rule of law. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Joyce, I agree with the goal, but disagree with the method you advocate. Prayer will do no good at all. As Dan Barker says, "Nothing fails like prayer."
Gary, the question is, can you be respectful of other's beliefs? Do you want to be a coalition builder? Or do you want to be critical of one aspect of another's life/belief at the expense of losing a potential ally?
DP1: Gary, the question is, can you be respectful of other's beliefs?
GW1: Your assumption is that we should respect all beliefs of all people? Why?
DP1: Do you want to be a coalition builder?
GW1: Sure. Do you?
DP1: Or do you want to be critical of one aspect of another's life/belief at the expense of losing a potential ally?
GW1: I want to be critical of beliefs and behaviors which are useless, false, irrational, and/or harmful. Focus on our commonalities rather than our differences. Religion divides. Leave it out.
But political action does work. Join a "Not Above the Law'" rally the day Trump is arraigned near you to show your respcet for the rule of law. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I mean, *I* certainly pray regularly for something-ANYTHING to keep ole' Bunkerboy from murdering any more Americans by surrendering to something like covid-19.
Mary Ann Thrush : yes, he is; the scariest fact is that he has been able to run for President, and shown who he is, and still is being allowed to run as a presidential candidate again! Our 'vetting' process in choosing leaders is flawed in many ways: but this is the worst weakness, outside of Citizens United and the Electoral College one would think at least he clears his name before getting on the ballot! He is a one man crime wave who threatens our country all the way from its foundation to it's Supreme Court!
Reading about and learning about the rise of Right Wing pseudo-Democratic leaders like Victor Orban {yes, in the NYT article and elsewhere}, one sees a great many parallels with the “rise of Trump,” which is really the rise of Mock-Democracy right here in the US, with Trump merely a servant of the money machine that pulls the strings behind the Republican Party. Oligarchy and Autocracy are on the rise, and Trump is a tool of that effort in the US. [And seeing that Steve Bannon is over there in the EU stirring the pot, too, is more than chilling!!!]
I wondered why the Right would be so adamant that climate change is not real, given that heating up so many parts of our planet is a huge part of the reason we have so many migrants on the move to find a decent place to live. But lately, I have the horrifying thought that the Right WANTS migrants to crowd our borders, to rile up our people and scare them, causing them to turn to the “Strong Man” Right Wing Autocrats who promise to “keep the barbarian at bay.” It serves their messaging … Whatever actually happens, the Autocrats don’t care, as long as they can raid their countries’ economies for their own enrichment.
As though people all over our planet who are suffering from the climate change that industrial countries have brought forth are reasonable collateral damage on the altar of the industrial countries’ economic rise … Who cares about those people, except as an excuse to rile our people up against the damned interlopers … Their countries are becoming unlivable. Ours so far are livable. Sucks being them.
I still have dreams of our planet being a safe place for people to raise their families under decent governments all over the landscape.
But even Vermont was devastated by storms and floods this month. Even green and verdant and pastoral Vermont … How can we help people to live in their own countries in hot climes, if we can’t even keep the typically moderate climate of Vermont in check.
How can the world function like this?
Not under the control of hateful autocrats, that’s for sure … Not with people like Trump getting away with such crap.
Speaking of an idealized " dreams of our planet being a safe place for people to raise their families under decent governments all over the landscape", we need to stop ignoring/denying the accelerating process of global warming. Just look at the attention to the Artic ice melt for example. Instead of seriously pushing towards zero carbon emissions world wide, the oil and gas industry can`t wait to start drilling for more. Driven by profits, of course. All of this while millions of people living near the equator migrate towards countries such as ours. The problem now is that the warming process is accelerating because of more & more burning of fossil fuels. There seems to be no end to the warming process, and no end to our contribution to it. We are now experiencing increasing severe storms, flooding, extreme heat, especially in the south. And we are going along our merry way while fighting over politics and criminals such as Donald Trump. The end game will be dire.
Pat, you are right about all of this. Now, how do we get people here and abroad to see that those they are choosing for their leaders are a big mistake and will bring them nothing positive in the long run. Feeling smug that they own the libs will only hold them for a short time until they start finding themselves worse off than before their bad choices. Then it will be too late because the child-men will be in charge. The oligarchs want child-men like Trump in charge because they can be so easily manipulated while their egos are easily fed with nonsense and people's aimless cheering and shouting stuff like "lock her up." It's disgusting, but how do we put the brakes on the runaway insanity?
Use political astion. For instance, sign up to attend a "Not Above the Law" rally the day Tr is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Please remember that Joe Biden sends weapons to Orban and many other autocrats around the world. In fact, while claiming to promote a democracy that most Americans have no access to, Biden has sold a record number of weapons around the world, 57% of which have gone to autocracies. The climate initiatives that have been touted in the Inflation Reduction Act encompass 15% of what we spend on our military, and even with that twisted priority within the bill it requires that every green energy project be offset by a permit for expansion for gas and oil exploration. Trump is a symptom of our corrupted political system and consolidated media which is largely bereft of journalism, and his indictment will not change anything except the constant drumbeat of free publicity he so eagerly seeks. And gets.
Which Democracy that “most Americans” have no access to? Ours? You are claiming that most Americans are prevented from accessing our own Democracy? NOW? Not in some future time, when DJT or the Republicans have succeeded in further devaluing our votes? {What planet do you live on?}
Yes, the US sells weapons to Orban and other autocrats. Sells. There’s.a difference in messaging when you change a word. Biden does, with the approval of our Senate and House, SEND weapons to Ukraine, but does he send them to Orban? He doesn’t “send” them to NATO — we manage a weapons regime that supposedly meets NATO requirements … So what are you talking about? Do you want Republicans in office who will not SEND weapons overseas? How about selling them?
Fooey, it all gets muddled, doesn’t it. But Orban’s government is not a rogue state, per se, nor did he stage a coup {unless you look at the manner in which he finagled his rise and consolidation of power and call it a “soft” coup]. So, as a supposed administration in good standing with our friends in Europe, we participate in commerce with them [Though he is on uneven ground with the EU right now over his border policies, but he’s still ostensibly legitimate — ostensibly.]
EVERYTHING that the Democratic administration in Washington today is trying to do is mitigated and altered by opposition maneuvering from Republicans, too. So, what’s your point? Should we dump the Dems and see if the Rs can do a better job, without the Dems in their way?
Bravo! Surely this means you will attend a "Not Above the Law" rally the day Tr is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
But he won't get away with it this time. Join a "Not Above the Law" rally to show that you suppprt the rule of law against his lies and crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I kind'a like the notion of having ol' Tweety experience the gentle hospitality provided by "Uncle Sam's Luxurious Bed & Breakfast at Guantanamo" - out of the continental US he so despises!
DZK, I hadn't thought of Guantanamo! That would solve the problem of Secret Service protection that has been discussed recently, how to provide it in prison.
And Guiliani, Roger Stone, Eastman, Mark Meadows,, Miller, who 'policed' the Mexican Border, all those who were in on planning the coup. Especially the lawyers.
Just for fun, let's put Marjorie "Markjorie" Greene in the same area with Gaetz and Whitepowerhawley. Even WHITE-COLLAR criminals would eat them up! I think they have earned that for their "High Treason."
Yes, we were AT WAR in Iraq during the January 6th Insurrection, so the insurrectionists are guilty of HIGH TREASON AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. (Why does no one mention this???)
For the same reason that when the news shows ol' Tweety going on about a weaponized DOJ, they never seem to bother running footage of ol' Tweety railing against Clinton with "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!", whereupon she indeed was subsequently investigated! Whitewater was the same goddam thing and every goddam Яepubлиkan >knows< goddam well it was.
Too bad ol' Bill got rattled by it all and dissembled about his little peccadillo with a consenting, nay eager female adult! They went after him for >not< a'bein' gay! LOL!
Even then, not a goddam soul - 'xceptin' maybe >me< - ever raised the question: "What the bloody hell does a BJ from a bimbo have to do with alleged corrupt land dealings in the private sector and murder?"
Michael; in many ways he is a small, (as in immature), man. I mean look at him handing paper towels to Hurricane victims ! Really!? Clueless! If those people hadn't lost homes and possibly, loved ones it would have been quite the 'sight gag'! Beyond inappropriate.
Let's show him that we are not buying his lies. Sign up to attend a "Not Above the Law" rally near you the day he is arraigned to show your respect for the law. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Agreed! Except for the firing squad bit. Killing prisoners is for guys like DeSantis (who has made it even easier in Florida) and Orban, not for civilized human beings.
let him live out his prison term picking vegetables in the California Central Valley agricultural complex, alongside his dispossessed brothers and sisters from Mexico and Central America. Let him work 12 -14 hours/day in the heat and misery that is the lives of agricultural workers. Let him feel like what it is to be the "other".
Paul; at his age, that would be a death sentence. He should live long enough to reflect. An hour or two might give him a clue though, if he worked in the fields.
Laurie, ok, hows about he takes the place of the guatemalan boy who died in a chicken plant in mississippi? at least let him not go to a country club for white collar criminals. he would just network and run his business from there.
Laurie--at the age of too many migrant workers it is also a death sentence. He can get in all the thoughts he needs as his body shuts down from stress and dehydration. He doesn't need to think anyway, he just needs to realize.
I'm wondering, do you really believe Donald J. Trump will ever think about anything but himself? He is not one to contemplate the terrible wrongs he has done to so many people. He will just whine and scream about he has been treated.
It's like that quote from Thelma & Louise ...MAX: You know, the one thing I can't figure out is whether these girls are real smart or just real, real lucky? HAL: Don't matter. Brains'll only get you so far and luck always runs out. In Trump's case that's GRAFT and CORRUPTION will only get you so far. This will bring him down. And before the election. And any number of possibilities -- from violence to a hardening of Republican conspiracy madness that the liberals are out to get them -- are possible. But as I write this 52% of us think we'll be better off for having gone through this and stood this Nazi dCown. He must NOT be allowed to incite an insurrection without consequences, and he must NOT be allowed to run again, for it he wins, that's the end of the republic. And before all of this is over, I want to know this: WHAT DOES TRUMP HAVE ON McCARTHY AND GAETZ? MTG is just terminally stupid and asinine, but I've been wondering, since McCarthy was willing to mortally embarrass himself running for speaker--and willing to lie in America's face ever since -- what Trump has on him. And Jordan. ... If we can hold real, real steady through the next year and a half, and get this man in jail and convict all the others who had a hand in January 6, the writing will be on the wall forevermore: you try to steal our country, and you'll be held to account for it.
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His bigliest problem NOW is who he bunks with in his cell! Let's be honest here: he is physically incapable of protecting his obese body from . . . "new BFFs" let's say.
Even in a nice, white-collar prison there are BOUND to be maniacs enticed by him.
Trump has pushed the GOP so far out on the limb of tenuous credibility that no shred of integrity can be found in almost any legislator seeking to stay in office. Simply put, they can’t make it past the primaries without his blessing, or withstand his ire.
Without Trump bolstering this imperiled limb through the sheer power of his myth, no politician would’ve been so brazen as to supplant democracy with #RepubloFascism on their own.
It takes a special kind of crook who sees himself as impervious to law to normalize hatred and blatant lies as a foundation for a political party, one willing to operate for many years without a set platform to run on.
Wouldn’t it be nice if Trump soon found himself
facing a quintet of juries? Might he then flee to Hungary to avoid cuffs and bars?
Trump supporters are a type. Motivations are combinations of money (untaxed revenue); or glee, a form of entertainment for example satisfaction at experts being jostled by amateurs, as if knowledge is similar to opinion.
Low-information voters see “power” and leadership as a microphone and a grin. Trying to explain is, to them, more snobbery, they suffer from O.D.D., Oppositional Defiant Disorder, in that no matter what is said, they argue against community or society, It’s all down to “me,” individualism dressed as my-rights, my-freedoms. There is no hope of turning entertainment seekers into community-minded citizens, except, like at the Insurrection, asking something of them.
Membership is a motivator, those WANT to be part of something. The great democracy experiment (the U.S.), isn’t enough, they want to feel conflict, leadership, vanquishing someone with a laugh or sneer, but they’ll roll up their sleeves to do real work, or contribute cash, to ideas that appeal to personal righteousness, e.g., propaganda.
MAGA are susceptible to suggestion there is a bogeyman conspiracy. Publicity that is positive for society doesn’t filter through to them because judgements at expense of others feels good.
I agree with your assessment of low information voters who defiantly and cynically support the worst humanity has ever seen in a political candidate, and the most extreme form of anti-social movement. They don’t get civilization at all.
In better days, social norms, strong social institutions, and all else failing, the rule of law encouraged them to lay low and keep their heads down.
The real problem is the anti-social, anti-democratic culture among the filthy stinking rich classes who strategically undermine the institutions of democracy and trust in government. Human needs and fairness are not a consideration for them unless needs and desires can be exploited to advance their own interests. For instance, unleashing armed and dangerous conspiracy theorists on targeted groups and individuals. It only makes sense in terms of what the oligarchs are angling for, more chaos for most and less regulation for them. There are stratifications in MAGA. At the top are the monied ones. Next are the stooges pulling the levers for their owners rather than the people who voted for them. Then there are the low information voters who just want to have fun. They all should be frustrated to the nth degree. I’m not a lawyer but I’m sure that the first step in remediation of this crisis in democracy is justice being done in the courts according to law. And now before it gets worse!
So letgs show them where we, the people, are. Sign up to attend a "Not Above the Law" rally near you the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
Trumpism, as now practiced, can be seen as a "pseudo-religion". It has all of the earmarks that true believers crave. He didn`t even have to say anything beyond his telling them what his enemies do to him is equivalent to their threatening the country. i.e., the he is the equivalent of the nation. And he is the victim, and he will sacrifice himself (as in Christianity). But in the end, he won`t. He will wiggle out of it, and in the end, disappoint his worshipers. As he did on Jan. 6th. I find it interesting that at the very point before the riot, he put VP Pence up for grabs. And since Pence didn`t do "the right thing", there was a rope awaiting the VP as punishment. And worse, Pence was declared persona-non-grata in the world of Trumpism. Hollywood will have a ball making movies of this.
Good points. Now make it real by attending a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
You are so right in bringing this up and saying that it is a sad realization. What does this suggest about our culture perhaps or the inequities in our country? Saying this excuses no one but it does warrant our attention.
Trump turns chicken and runs away! IMHO, this would be the best outcome for the country. No martyrdom for him. Maybe his supporters would finally see him for the coward and monster that he is, and the Republican party could slowly return to a normal conservative party that it once was. My hope...
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JerryM? Are you being sarcastic, ironic? Scotland, Trump visited and was booed, laughed at, jeered. Laughing stock. Trump’s grandfather was not permitted to return, though he tried--oh, wait, that was Germany. Scotland has contempt for Trump. Trump TRIED to purchase a person’s property on edge of a golf course, no amount of money would move the non-seller, film of his jokes and quips at Trump’s expense revealed early what a low opinion of Trump the world has. Like, “the emperor has got no clothes!”, puzzled non-Americans could not understand how know nothing oddball got elected to anything.
JerryM? You are misinformed if you think individuals in Scotland admire Trump. Trump is the butt of jokes, an non-beloved idjit. https://youtu.be/C4dCX_zqBJs
I have long believed that he is a flight risk, and that may become probable as the courts and prosecutors come for him. One of these judges should formally order him not to leave the country and so order the Secret Service. Also, authorities should confiscate his passport and ground his flashy big jet.
Time for this lying, cheating SOB to face the music!
We can impress this on him by attending "Not Above the Law" rallies the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 acttion. Go here to find one in your area: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
He shouldn’t be allowed exile. He’s an enemy of the state and has stolen state secrets. Containment or the death penalty are reasonable considering the crimes and continuing threat. I’m not a fan of the death penalty. Life in prison, by himself without social media or fellow criminals to keep him company, is best IMHO.
For several months now I have been thinking that when Trump decided he has or was about to lose everything via the courts, he will find a way to leave the country and find a place to hide. Where? Think Russia, Cuba, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, just off the top of my head. He owns his own large jet plane, and he has all that money people donated for his comeback. What an appropriate end to him. And, he would inadvertently save the tax payers the large costs of multiple trials.
Todd Telford : But would he get his way in Hungary? Mr Orban may have his own ideas about that. He may find himself in cuffs there, eventually. Or any other 'refuge' , because of who he is.
We will show him that we don't have anm use for his lies. Go here to find a "Not Above the Law" rally near you the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I was raised and abused as a Southern Baptist female. I was groomed to “willingly submit” to God as my heavenly “Benevolent Dictator” and to the men in my family and church as “my very own Benevolent Dictators.” In 2021, I read a quote by a MAGA-T cultist and Republican lawmaker who called Trump “our country’s very own Benevolent Dictator”. Christofascism is not new. This is not a bug, but a feature of this coalition of cults. It is time to stop viewing this as religious freedom that operates within the laws of democracy.
Beyond, I am sorry you experienced that bullying patriarchal structure as you were growing up. Isn't it interesting that Trump and Kump play that same ridiculous patriarchal bullying game with this nation? It is a form of fascism and works best when the cult members have been conned into being willing submissives. Well, we all can do better and must do better. It is time We the People are fully "woke" and can face the bullies head on and call them out for their bad behavior and push them out of the way of the progress we need to save our nation and planet from global warming, fascism, ignorance, and general disrespect going on right now. There are no benevolent dictators!! We can do this!
Agreed! That the notion of a Benevolent Dictator is an oxymoron and a grift is the most liberating understanding beyond any reasonable doubt that I have ever had!
So can start by attending a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he isi arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
To Beyond the Dead End, it is disturbing to hear that happened to you. It is important to amplify your voice, especially now. Christofascism is not new. It has nothing to do with religious freedom and everything to do with a kind of social control that intends to eclipse all else.
I am so glad you found your voice, and were able to realize that what you were normalized into was not normal, but abusive. You did nothing wrong and in fact have shown great strength of character. As we have seen with women who remain brain washed and remain in these cults or go further and join groups like Mothers for Liberty, just being a woman does not make you aware that you deserve equality and equity. Yours was the extreme version, but many girls and boys in America are given the same message, girls are here to serve boys. The # of women in top leadership positions has grown to 37%, which is better but still not reflective of the population. 153 out of 540 lawmakers in Congress are women. Much of misogyny has been normalized in ur culture, but we are making progress. I hope you find like minded people to be family with.
The DeSantis comment can be roughly translated as "Who you gonna believe, me of your lyin' eyes?"
My lyin' eyes tell me that in the end, Trump, DeSantis, MTG, Boebert, Goetz, McCarthy, and Uncle Tom Cobley and all, will actually be good for America.
We have to remain steadfast, and not waiver. "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out."
I love your sentiments. Make them real by attending a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Trump’s nomination will result in a landslide victory for us. I believe we will take both the House and the Senate. ($17 hour living / fair wage passed?) He will pass an embittered, ranting old man. Which he probably already is.
Will, I hope you are right about a Democratic landslide next year, but what I have noticed over time, Democrats often choose to sit back and watch, so they don't have to say they participated. It happened last November in Florida and in New York, to name just two instances. How do we get Dems and independents to step up and commit themselves to vote for people who actually care for the work and the need to support all their constituents, not just the crazy, loud, obnoxious ones. How can we help them get past the Republican voter suppression that has been going on? Republicans are not interested in governing, just acquiring power and money to feed their addiction, and as much of both as they can get. Their base wants that too, but hasn't realized yet that they will never get ahead if Trump and Kump are in charge. I guess they like and find comfort in their constant blaming the "woke." It must make them feel important or smart or something. We should be able to defeat the bankrupt political party that the Repuvlicans have become.
The answer to your important question is: join an organization that is phone-banking, canvassing, sending postcards to Democratic voters, or driving them to the polls. The work has gone on steadily since 2020 (the special election of Warnock to the Senate from Georgia and the swinging of the Wisconsin Supreme Court against the MAGA autocrats are examples of its effectiveness): we're now preparing for the big push starting in September. Though Ohio needs our help NOW against its illegal August 8 special election to render ballot initiatives impossible, and the Virginia state elections will be held this November--we hope to swing the state back to the Democrats. There are many such organizations. The ones I've worked with are Swing Blue Alliance, Field Team 6, Sister District (good if you live in a blue state or district where activism isn't needed), and RideShare2Vote (getting voters to the polls in red states, where laws are being passed to make voting harder).
Mary, you are so right about getting involved, and what a lot of terrific things you are doing!
Most of the things you have described won't work for me as a blind woman, but I encourage my tutoring students to get their family members out to vote, preach the importance of staying informed and voting when I give sermons, sign many petitions, write a blog, and encourage people I know to work the polls. I figure each of us can do what is within our purview if we are willing to notice what that is, then we need to encourage people to notice.
Absolutely so--getting your students (and through them their families) out to vote is especially important: we MUST get young people involved. Good for you! You could phone-bank too, if you're anxious about a particular outcome (as I was for instance about the special election in OH, or the election of "Judge Janet" Protasiewicz to the WI Supreme Court). It's much easier now than it was (we don't have to dial), and we call people who--when they answer their phones--are glad to hear from us: they need information, or sometimes just a voice in the wilderness they may live in. I'm phone-phobic normally, but do it once or twice a week for an hour or sometimes two. My Zoom GOTV group with Swing Blue Alliance has gotten close enough that we have a Friday afternoon Zoom now just to talk about politics--things we've found to do, or news we should know from other people's areas or states.
We can also attend a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Show your respect for the law by attending: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I joined many of these phone banks and felt great when our candidates won, but I am still afraid the people who't stand up to him. If you will, start by attending a "Not Above the Law" rally the dsy he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Hi Ruth. Yes it is crazy. In Arizona where I I live Trump nuts with automatic weapons decided to become self appointed “guards” of mail-in ballot boxes during the recent midterms. Fortuitously the local sheriff moved swiftly to remove them. Not coincidentally AZ flipped massively blue. I really believe there is a silent majority (sorry to evoke a Nixonian phrase) that is watching the Trump / Republican nonsense and is increasingly repulsed. On Election Day they will render a wise judgment.
Oh Will, I like to believe that too. I do want to think the best of my fellow Americans. I admit it has been hard at times lately. It seems the most pathetic among us seem to get the most publicity as though they are the majority when in reality, they certainly are not. That's true even in the mixed-up red states where so many scared white folks live who want to pretend we can go back to some imaginary time when if one were the right kind of white man, he could do and get whatever he wanted. That time will never come again; it's too bad the red staters choose not to see that.
I would like to believe that as well. We have a Russian/Putin computer company in the USA. Why are they still here? Kaspersky Labs a Russian multinational cyber security and anti-virus provider headquartered in Moscow, a computer Malware (What is Malware? software that is designed to interfere with a computer's normal functioning and that can be used to commit cyber crime's.) company. Selling antivirus, internet security, and more.
Branch in Massachusetts, USA.
A Global company. Some Americans went to Russia and purchased part of this company. Russia is on top and I believe ahead of us in computer science and hacking. How to stop them from making Trump President again? They did it before. Could not do it with us using the US Mail. That is why the Republicans are trying to destroy out Postal Service. Let more of us wake-up. Save our USA from Russian Trump.
Hello, can anyone understand? All heads out from under rocks.
Are the American owners Neo-Nazis? White Nationalists? Members or heads of hate groups? Who brought this Russian company into the USA to cause havic?
Another Russian group here in the USA is called DarkSide, who are responsible for cyber and ransomware attacks. This group attacks hospitals, schools, and more.
Prayer is the key. Who can stop this type of evil? The Almighty, the creator of the Universe. The GOD of Love. Let us all pray, please.
No, not prayer. Trump probably prays all the time. Instead take action. Join a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes:https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Sorry, the Neo-Nazis have locations in all the states. Contact Southern Poverty Law Center and ask them to send you a map of all the Nazis and other hate groups. Shocking how they have grown here since over a thousand Nazis War Criminals were brought to our shores without going through immigration. Scary for all of us for sure.
Put your money where your (righteous) mouth is and join a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraiged for his Jan. 6 crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Start by joining a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and stand up for the rule of law: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I like the optimism and the almost Shakespearean description of trump in his blathering senescence. May your words resonate with the friendly Fates that guide the mysteries of existence.
And may they prompt you to take action by joining a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
One area to watch is just how much this unfolding socio political crisis will serve to highlight just how the fourth estate and mass media have been hijacked by transnational criminal mobsters, like Rupert Murdoch and other fellow traveller hostile state players.
This elucidation of widespread corruption and abuse of media powers is not unrelated to the Hollywood strike and various violent culture wars within the mass education system.
Trump's WH legal advisor says "It isn't illegal to be crazy" in defense of the former President's actions. I completely agree with his thinking but when the craziness causes an individual to act in an illegal manner society is forced to take action. No one is above the law, crazy or not. May Mailman, who heads "RITE," an organization that is attempting to restore integrity to our elections, says 56% of all Republicans no longer trust the DOJ and the FBI. That thought is in line with the percentage of that party who blindly still follow Donald Trump. It's sad that those people cling to the misconception that Trump in all his glory had the 2020 election stolen from him by factions within our government that wanted to remove him from power. The movement wasn't from within our government it came from our population itself. The people were sick and tired of his childish antics and hateful rhetoric. Trump is a low-class person trying to hold on to a high-class image. Someone please throw a bucket of water on this man, let's see if Dorthy's accident is worthy of repeating itself. It really doesn't matter how the other side views the efforts of the DOJ, distasteful or not when the law is broken society is forced to take steps in order to maintain its rectitude. To step aside for Trump and excuse his behavior would degrade the rule of law this country functions under. The DOJ is doing what Trump has forced them to do, like it or not the 56% that find it difficult to see the truth will have to settle for the "dunce hat" if it fits.
You write the best comment of all. Yes, society has the responsibility to defend itself, whether from craziness in general, or hate, or murder/mass murder, or sociopathic actions. Thank you.
I agree wholeheartedly with you, so I am encouraging you to attend a "Not Above the Law" the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Find one here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Trump, other MAGA politicians and their supporters are revealing themselves to be outright fascists.
And, as you observe, his oncoming Federal indictment will only increase the fervor of his base.
And more indictments are in the pipeline, such as in Georgia, where Trump's desperate and ridiculous lawsuit was correctly thrown out.
I also am pleased that in once-red Michigan, sixteen election deniers are being charged for their complicity in attempting to overturn the 2020 general elections results.
While this all this news is pleasing, we're still a country where red states are becoming quite fascist, like Florida, Tennessee, amongst others.
So, we've still go a long ways to go, but Trump's many legal problems brings a big smile to my brain and face.
Huh? Who do you think finances the puppets of the RNC? Who do you think is pulling the puppet strings? NEO NAZI, CHRISTO-FASCIST BILLIONAIRES, organized by the likes of Charles Koch, funneling money to the RNC via “CITIZENS UNITED”--falsely claiming corporations are people. It is CORPORATE MONEY. This is textbook FASCISM.
And so does Trump's. Without the religious right, where would he be? We might even have abortion rights, a truthful education to offer our kids, strong unions, voting rights, etc. This has become a right wing circus powered by ignorance and religion.
But the Reps' intentions and actions do. Unions are being targeted, advocates fired and jailed and corporations running the country rthrough their support of these hateful legislators. It is just expanded to ensure big money to the top.
Daniel, if Trump does run (he still has his passport, something anyone else who had stolen documents would never have been permitted), I wonder, would his family go too, or will they just let him hang out to dry wherever he goes and pretend they don't know him?
He is so recognizable that he will have to take his private jet, but I do hope he runs. Let some other country take his lies. Meanwhile, join a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Under our watch, we allowed the corpirates of Fascism to steal our Constitution and to make their money and their power magically become their protected “free speech”!!!!
The spirits of the framers of our Constitution can have no peace until we pass HJR54, the We the People Amendment. It’s the only way to reverse Citizens United and all related SCOTUS rulings that rigged our system.
Generation F has but one chance to redeem ourselves. Time is running out. Better call your Congressional Reps now! Let’s end this corruption so that never again another Trump!
(Pancha Chandra): America is considered to be a nation of sound laws where democracy flourishes with clock-work fairness! However, when a pompous ex-President rides roughshod over long established rules & goads his supporters to insurrection, he should be charged with treason!
Yes! But this is America, the Wild West, where the gears of justice grind slowly but hopefully surely. I’m so angry that jerk got elected. He should be most severely punished.
So put yofr conjvictions into action and join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I don't know how this will play out. Im bewildered that Speaker McCarthy is ignoring the facts and attacking the DOJ. Seriously? I'm afraid this could lead to more violent acts, like J6 and threats to the President. It's sickening.
The Speaker of the House is obstructing justice and fermenting violence against the government by perpetuating dangerous lies. It's totally reckless. It's a new low for the Speaker and House.
I've said it before and I will say it again, Pelosi should push for a bi-partisan investigation into the GOP allegations of election theft. Let's see what the Cyber Ninjas and the Pillow Guy have to say and show.
I think the only way to address the false allegations of election theft are to shine a whole lot of light on the issue with a Congressional hearing and investigation. "Put up or shut up." Clearly, many people need to see the facts and hear the truth.
How will America choose? That is a frightening question, given so much lack of clarity in the voting public. And the chance of a third party spoiler candidate entering the race adds another level of worry. As to whether we will be stronger from this experience, the short answer would be (hopefully) yes - because we can shore up any aspects of our election process that might need it. But the caustic rot that seems to grow around Trump and his supporters - this is going to require time and patience, clarity and good leadership to cleanse and work itself out.
I feel very grateful for our democracy, with all it's imperfections, and I am appalled (and offended) by Trump's brazen ways. That power corrupts is an old truth; to experience this corruption is deeply disturbing.
So put your convictions into action and Join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes to show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Well, it's been a long time coming, but I think we're going to find out how much, how wide, and how deep his support is. I think it is going to be a rough ride, but at least it's out in the open. In the short term, I worry about all those guns out there.
progwoman ; That is what they want us to do ; worry and be afraid. I just have a question that I keep asking ; What is 'Homeland Security? It seems useless and does not enhance our security at all. It came into being during "W"'s reign. I don't remember our country being referred to as a 'Homeland'! I wonder how much of our tax dollars go to this "homeland Security"? Somehow, I don't think it will defend us against all those weapons out there! Where have they been since (and before) Jan 6th? Who are they and what do they do?
From the start, I thought Homeland was a bad choice of words. It was supposed to make us think we were being protected from evil perpetrators like the 9/11 highjackers, who trained right here even after some FBI offices raised suspicion. Homeland Security made life hell for many immigrants. I don't think they'll protect us from armed American insurrectionists.
So join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Justice is blind. Its time to bring back the application of law to everyone equally.
It matters not that you have several billion dollars to your name. Break the law and the consequences apply equally to you as someone lacking any wealth.
“ It’s time to bring back the application of law to everyone equally. “
T’was never this, alas, Bret. It is time perhaps to reimagine what the ideal of blind justice may be as we struggle today to bring that ideal, finally, to life.
Great comnent. Now Put your convictions into action and join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I too, believe these trials should be televised. Perhaps then, his blind followers will understand the truth of his criminal behavior, which includes duping them of their hard earned money. And when he is in prison and election time comes, they will think hard about who they vote into the Congress.
See my comment above and join us for a day of action to show our respect for the rule of law.
Join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Lorren ; It may be that Fox viewers would not see the televised trial ; just like they did not see the Jan 6th material. (until McCarthy got ahold of it and it was altered).
I believe the biggest reason tfg is throwing a rod at all this,is because he's never been held accountable for anything in his miserable life.When he was younger,his old man bailed him out,got him out of military service,etc.Then as an adult,he either sued the people he owed money to,or filed for bankruptcy.Again,no accountability.
So now he's being made to face the music.And despite all his screaming in Caps or threats towards the people who have his ass dead to rights,it ain't working out like he's used to and guess what, y'all,he is scared shitless.The thoughts of prison and being powerless and without all the control over everything is just terrifying to him.And it serves him right.I hope they throw the book at him,and then pick the damned thing up and throw it at him some more.
If this was any of us ordinary working class slobs under the same accusations as he's under,hell,we would have already been told we're gonna face a firing squad or spend life in Leavenworth,if not both.At the very least,he deserves the latter.
Hoping they give him everything he certainly has coming to him.
Melissa, Trump truly does deserve to spend at least some time in jail, but the problem is that he has learned all the techniques for bamboozling everyone, knowing just the right kind of balance of whining and threats to get people to do whatever he wants. Then, he has the support of the really rich white guys who want his incompetent leadership so they can get away with more tax evasion, get more tax breaks, and get more mergers that can create monopolies, just like when Trump was in office the first time. They know or at least believe their money will protect them from anything that happens so want the guy who will let them have whatever they want, in office. They know Trump is a toddler-man who can be manipulated as long as he can believe it was his idea. The man incited an insurgency. He threatened or bribed state officials and his vice president. He lied over 30,000 times in public while in office. Then he stole top secret documents, probably planning to sell them to foreign operatives for personal gain. We have a constitutional amendment that states clearly that anyone who has been involved in an insurgency cannot run for public office anywhere in the nation, yet he is running, and, so did the members of Congress who supported his coup attempt. Then, a Trump-appointed judge was in the mix for trying his stolen document case. That should never have even been a possibility! It seems to me state legislatures and secretaries of state should keep Trump's name off the ballot because of our constitution, but alas, it seems our amendments don't count for much with our Supreme Court except for the 2nd which they have warped far out of recognition and the 5th which they can use to say "I plead the 5th" to cover their lies. We are in trouble, but could stop a lot of it if We the People would together stand up to Trump's lies and bullying and that of his cult too.
We must all stand together for sure. And pray like we have never prayed before for The Almighty to have mercy on us to deliver us from this evil we are facing. Remember Jesus taught us that some evil needed prayer to release. I believe this is one to those times.
The evil that Donald is in bed with is the Neo-Nazis. "Never Again," has to mean Never Again. The world is being affected and not just the USA. Prayer is the key.
Prayer and Justice! Mostly justice at this point! Unless Jesus can appear and kick butt and make it stick! I think He gave us free will, but we have to USE it. Certainly those doing the judging need strength and courage! 'COUR" = HEART plus rage is Rage! The law and courage to use it.
Except prayer has no impact on any outcome especially if you expect some deity to intervene. What we need is an overwhelming show of opposition to the GOP at the polls.
Everyone needs to vote, blue for sure!
And attend a "Not Above the Law" rally to show your support for the law and democracy. Click here to find one near you. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
J.Nol ; I pointed out in my comment that Justice is needed Over prayer. We need for our Courts to apply justice; and overcome Any fear that might inhibit them from applying the law .
Prayer is not needed at all. Prayer doesn't work. Justice could work.
Laurie it doesn't matter what order you said the words. These people are being disrespectful.
You were right on both counts, Laurie...prayer AND justice!
To thank our courts for indicting Trump for his Jan. 6 crimes, people all over the country are attending "Not Above the Law" rallies to show our support for the rule of law. Go here to find one in your area: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Absolutely prayer changes things. Yes, we need each of us to show up and vote. We also need divine intervention to deliver us from the evil Neo-Nazis who have a 100 year plan to take us down. They are playing chess and what are we playing? Catch up?
All hands on deck is what I see. Vote and pray like our Democracy depends on it. Plus, vote by mail and stop these Republicans from tossing out votes is also needed.
Joyce, there is no scientific evidence to support the efficacy of prayer. Please stop spreading misinformation about prayer.
Meanwhile. do something to help. Attend a "Not Above the Law" rally to show your support for the rule of law and democracy. Click here to find one near you. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Sorry, But all the research on prayer- legitimate research indicates that the only impact prayer has is to make the person who prayed feel like they've actually done something. Since there is nothing out there to respond to prayer, it's really an act of selfishness.
Here is a way to show your opposition to his lies and criminal behavior. Join a "Not Above the Law " rally. Click here to find one near you.
https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
There exists a rather large contingency of Republican bottom feeders who have taken it upon themselves to attempt to suck the worm from the hook. Their position rests on the idea that the legal proceedings surrounding Trump are purely a political attempt to remove the former president from the election scene in the 2024 Presidential race. Basically what the other side of the aisle is saying, no matter what laws we break you can't come after us because we will consider it a politically motivated attempt to damage us in the next election. Self-emasculation is a difficult act to follow but through Trump's criminal activities, he has managed to accomplish a bloodless coup upon himself leaving the Republican party with a dysfunctional stud at the helm. Trump is good at only two things, being dishonest and lying, excuse me but I have to add extorting money under false pretenses from his naive constituents. The man is a criminal and the DOJ seems to have proof of the activities that would lead to his conviction. If the Republican dweebs that are making all the noise would just step back for a second and give our justice department the time it needs to present their case maybe the whole thing might come together and begin to make sense. If Trump is innocent he'll get his day in court, let the system play out unencumbered by party opinion. The Republicans doing all the complaining have no idea of the evidence the DOJ has at their disposal. Jurisprudence will prevail, just give it a chance. Tell Trump to hold his breath, it's a long way to the bottom of his cesspool.
The "Trumpists", or true believers that he is the second coming, simply want whatever he says he wants in the 2024 election. No matter what. If, G_d forbid, we wind up with this worse case scenario, we will find our nation in a very similar dilemma as was the Weimar Republic in 1933 Germany, when Hitler got the Kaiser to resign and put him in control of the government. That inter-World War event produced the most terribly destructive conflagration in history. And if we think that Trump at the helm again can`t have this kind of catastrophe, let the law do its thing, imprison or isolate him so he can no longer be a threat to the nation and the world.
Peter--You see things so well.
Pretty naive. big mistake to underestimate the size of his stupid followers..
Alan--Trump controls 50% 0f the Republican base. The total Republican party only accounts for 25% of all eligible voters in the country. The Democrats control 32% and the independents have the remaining 43%. Naive or not Trump doesn't stand a chance and his party knows it.
And to show your respect for the rule of law in this whole mess, attend a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I worry that on a jury there will be one person who sticks with a vote of "not guilty." But I am hoping that with so many indictments and trials, that at least one jury will unanimously decide "guilty" and that Trump will serve some time in prison. If that happens, then even if his core sticks with him, he will lose the election in 2024. Enough Republicans, Democrats, and independents will vote against him.
We canb hope. And meanwhile, we can take action to show our respect for the rule of law. Go here to find a "Not Above the Law" rally near you.https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Gary--Since the last election Trump's base has been shrinking. He lost by almost 8 million votes in 2020, if he runs again he'll lose by twice that, but will that make a difference to those to blind to see.
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Talk and prayers are just not getting it.
You are confusing two persons. Jesus was a real person and he is dead. He did not give us free will. God is only hypothetical and it is speculated that he gave us free will. Neither Jesus nor God are going to do anything in this mess. We are going to need to work together to defeat the Trumpster.
So get real and attend a "Not Above the Law" rally near you on the day he is arraigned. Go here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
They use Jesus on their side.
Faith helps too! And gives courage.
Yes!
Greater is God!
Joyce: I believe you would very much enjoy this video:
https://youtu.be/EObWLbJqGkI
It’s by Paul Kingsworth (I think that’s his name..)who has a Substack called “The Abbey of Misrule”
He’s an Orthodox Christian. He says some amazing things in the video but his long story short advice to us all: PRAY. ❤️
I just finished watching and listening to Paul Kingsnorth.
I have subscribed and will watch more of his videos. Very interesting young man.
Bless you! I am also going to look into the Orthodox Christian Church to find out more of their history and beliefs. I was raised Lutheran. I left because they were not teaching the teachings of Jesus or following his teachings.
I just stumbled on to him myself. I found that I couldn’t disagree with anything he says in that video. Also looking forward to reading more of his work. 🙂
I am so grateful Heather that you shared him with me. I am excited to see more of his videos.
Have a blessed weekend.
Thank you so very much. I have never heard of an Orthodox Christian. But, I will check him out.
Bless you!
It’s Kingsnorth
Got it.
Prayer plus action. Besides voting blue, what other concrete actions can we take?
We can attend "Not Above the Law" rallies to show our support for the rule of law. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Get involved with your local legislative district Democrats. Maricopa County Democrat Party is working on organizing groups to call registered Democrats and encourage those who are not already on the automated early voter list to register for the AEVL because they killed the PEVL (permanent early voter list.) 80% of voters vote by mail in Arizona. The Republican dominated legislature is trying to chip away at this by removing people from the vote by mail list if you failed to vote in the previous 2 consecutive elections.
Actually, political action is the key,not prayer. Go here to attend a rally the day hs is arraogned to show the world that we stand for the rule of law. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Joyce, I agree with the goal, but disagree with the method you advocate. Prayer will do no good at all. As Dan Barker says, "Nothing fails like prayer."
Gary, the question is, can you be respectful of other's beliefs? Do you want to be a coalition builder? Or do you want to be critical of one aspect of another's life/belief at the expense of losing a potential ally?
DP1: Gary, the question is, can you be respectful of other's beliefs?
GW1: Your assumption is that we should respect all beliefs of all people? Why?
DP1: Do you want to be a coalition builder?
GW1: Sure. Do you?
DP1: Or do you want to be critical of one aspect of another's life/belief at the expense of losing a potential ally?
GW1: I want to be critical of beliefs and behaviors which are useless, false, irrational, and/or harmful. Focus on our commonalities rather than our differences. Religion divides. Leave it out.
But political action does work. Join a "Not Above the Law'" rally the day Trump is arraigned near you to show your respcet for the rule of law. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I mean, *I* certainly pray regularly for something-ANYTHING to keep ole' Bunkerboy from murdering any more Americans by surrendering to something like covid-19.
Scary crazy, he is.
Mary Ann Thrush : yes, he is; the scariest fact is that he has been able to run for President, and shown who he is, and still is being allowed to run as a presidential candidate again! Our 'vetting' process in choosing leaders is flawed in many ways: but this is the worst weakness, outside of Citizens United and the Electoral College one would think at least he clears his name before getting on the ballot! He is a one man crime wave who threatens our country all the way from its foundation to it's Supreme Court!
Reading about and learning about the rise of Right Wing pseudo-Democratic leaders like Victor Orban {yes, in the NYT article and elsewhere}, one sees a great many parallels with the “rise of Trump,” which is really the rise of Mock-Democracy right here in the US, with Trump merely a servant of the money machine that pulls the strings behind the Republican Party. Oligarchy and Autocracy are on the rise, and Trump is a tool of that effort in the US. [And seeing that Steve Bannon is over there in the EU stirring the pot, too, is more than chilling!!!]
I wondered why the Right would be so adamant that climate change is not real, given that heating up so many parts of our planet is a huge part of the reason we have so many migrants on the move to find a decent place to live. But lately, I have the horrifying thought that the Right WANTS migrants to crowd our borders, to rile up our people and scare them, causing them to turn to the “Strong Man” Right Wing Autocrats who promise to “keep the barbarian at bay.” It serves their messaging … Whatever actually happens, the Autocrats don’t care, as long as they can raid their countries’ economies for their own enrichment.
As though people all over our planet who are suffering from the climate change that industrial countries have brought forth are reasonable collateral damage on the altar of the industrial countries’ economic rise … Who cares about those people, except as an excuse to rile our people up against the damned interlopers … Their countries are becoming unlivable. Ours so far are livable. Sucks being them.
I still have dreams of our planet being a safe place for people to raise their families under decent governments all over the landscape.
But even Vermont was devastated by storms and floods this month. Even green and verdant and pastoral Vermont … How can we help people to live in their own countries in hot climes, if we can’t even keep the typically moderate climate of Vermont in check.
How can the world function like this?
Not under the control of hateful autocrats, that’s for sure … Not with people like Trump getting away with such crap.
Egad.
Speaking of an idealized " dreams of our planet being a safe place for people to raise their families under decent governments all over the landscape", we need to stop ignoring/denying the accelerating process of global warming. Just look at the attention to the Artic ice melt for example. Instead of seriously pushing towards zero carbon emissions world wide, the oil and gas industry can`t wait to start drilling for more. Driven by profits, of course. All of this while millions of people living near the equator migrate towards countries such as ours. The problem now is that the warming process is accelerating because of more & more burning of fossil fuels. There seems to be no end to the warming process, and no end to our contribution to it. We are now experiencing increasing severe storms, flooding, extreme heat, especially in the south. And we are going along our merry way while fighting over politics and criminals such as Donald Trump. The end game will be dire.
Pat, you are right about all of this. Now, how do we get people here and abroad to see that those they are choosing for their leaders are a big mistake and will bring them nothing positive in the long run. Feeling smug that they own the libs will only hold them for a short time until they start finding themselves worse off than before their bad choices. Then it will be too late because the child-men will be in charge. The oligarchs want child-men like Trump in charge because they can be so easily manipulated while their egos are easily fed with nonsense and people's aimless cheering and shouting stuff like "lock her up." It's disgusting, but how do we put the brakes on the runaway insanity?
Use political astion. For instance, sign up to attend a "Not Above the Law" rally the day Tr is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Please remember that Joe Biden sends weapons to Orban and many other autocrats around the world. In fact, while claiming to promote a democracy that most Americans have no access to, Biden has sold a record number of weapons around the world, 57% of which have gone to autocracies. The climate initiatives that have been touted in the Inflation Reduction Act encompass 15% of what we spend on our military, and even with that twisted priority within the bill it requires that every green energy project be offset by a permit for expansion for gas and oil exploration. Trump is a symptom of our corrupted political system and consolidated media which is largely bereft of journalism, and his indictment will not change anything except the constant drumbeat of free publicity he so eagerly seeks. And gets.
Which Democracy that “most Americans” have no access to? Ours? You are claiming that most Americans are prevented from accessing our own Democracy? NOW? Not in some future time, when DJT or the Republicans have succeeded in further devaluing our votes? {What planet do you live on?}
Yes, the US sells weapons to Orban and other autocrats. Sells. There’s.a difference in messaging when you change a word. Biden does, with the approval of our Senate and House, SEND weapons to Ukraine, but does he send them to Orban? He doesn’t “send” them to NATO — we manage a weapons regime that supposedly meets NATO requirements … So what are you talking about? Do you want Republicans in office who will not SEND weapons overseas? How about selling them?
Fooey, it all gets muddled, doesn’t it. But Orban’s government is not a rogue state, per se, nor did he stage a coup {unless you look at the manner in which he finagled his rise and consolidation of power and call it a “soft” coup]. So, as a supposed administration in good standing with our friends in Europe, we participate in commerce with them [Though he is on uneven ground with the EU right now over his border policies, but he’s still ostensibly legitimate — ostensibly.]
EVERYTHING that the Democratic administration in Washington today is trying to do is mitigated and altered by opposition maneuvering from Republicans, too. So, what’s your point? Should we dump the Dems and see if the Rs can do a better job, without the Dems in their way?
Ruth Sheets: let's see what our justice system can do! I hope they make us proud, and inspire more Patriots to study the Law!
Bravo! Surely this means you will attend a "Not Above the Law" rally the day Tr is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Yes.
Good luck! We are doomed if we elect a Republican of any stripe. Why not dump the Republicans and see what the Dems can do without their opposition?
Preach it, Ruth!
Trump is a skillful psychopath. Most of his life he has wiggled out of responsibility for his illegal acts.
But he won't get away with it this time. Join a "Not Above the Law" rally to show that you suppprt the rule of law against his lies and crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I kind'a like the notion of having ol' Tweety experience the gentle hospitality provided by "Uncle Sam's Luxurious Bed & Breakfast at Guantanamo" - out of the continental US he so despises!
DZK, I hadn't thought of Guantanamo! That would solve the problem of Secret Service protection that has been discussed recently, how to provide it in prison.
Guantanamo would be excellent!! Maybe Mitch McConnell could be indicted for some of the stuff he pulled and occupy a cell next to him.
And Guiliani, Roger Stone, Eastman, Mark Meadows,, Miller, who 'policed' the Mexican Border, all those who were in on planning the coup. Especially the lawyers.
Just for fun, let's put Marjorie "Markjorie" Greene in the same area with Gaetz and Whitepowerhawley. Even WHITE-COLLAR criminals would eat them up! I think they have earned that for their "High Treason."
Yes, we were AT WAR in Iraq during the January 6th Insurrection, so the insurrectionists are guilty of HIGH TREASON AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. (Why does no one mention this???)
For the same reason that when the news shows ol' Tweety going on about a weaponized DOJ, they never seem to bother running footage of ol' Tweety railing against Clinton with "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!", whereupon she indeed was subsequently investigated! Whitewater was the same goddam thing and every goddam Яepubлиkan >knows< goddam well it was.
Too bad ol' Bill got rattled by it all and dissembled about his little peccadillo with a consenting, nay eager female adult! They went after him for >not< a'bein' gay! LOL!
Even then, not a goddam soul - 'xceptin' maybe >me< - ever raised the question: "What the bloody hell does a BJ from a bimbo have to do with alleged corrupt land dealings in the private sector and murder?"
Great minds work alike
Amen! Make it so!!! Not getting elected again!!! Classic egotistical, corrupt, lying con man.
Never Again!
Well said!! Never had to be accountable for anything. That makes for a very arrogant and narcissistic little brat!
Michael; in many ways he is a small, (as in immature), man. I mean look at him handing paper towels to Hurricane victims ! Really!? Clueless! If those people hadn't lost homes and possibly, loved ones it would have been quite the 'sight gag'! Beyond inappropriate.
Let's show him that we are not buying his lies. Sign up to attend a "Not Above the Law" rally near you the day he is arraigned to show your respect for the law. https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Agreed! Except for the firing squad bit. Killing prisoners is for guys like DeSantis (who has made it even easier in Florida) and Orban, not for civilized human beings.
I agree! Let him live and think about things.
let him live out his prison term picking vegetables in the California Central Valley agricultural complex, alongside his dispossessed brothers and sisters from Mexico and Central America. Let him work 12 -14 hours/day in the heat and misery that is the lives of agricultural workers. Let him feel like what it is to be the "other".
That would be true justice.
Paul; at his age, that would be a death sentence. He should live long enough to reflect. An hour or two might give him a clue though, if he worked in the fields.
Laurie, ok, hows about he takes the place of the guatemalan boy who died in a chicken plant in mississippi? at least let him not go to a country club for white collar criminals. he would just network and run his business from there.
Laurie--at the age of too many migrant workers it is also a death sentence. He can get in all the thoughts he needs as his body shuts down from stress and dehydration. He doesn't need to think anyway, he just needs to realize.
I'm wondering, do you really believe Donald J. Trump will ever think about anything but himself? He is not one to contemplate the terrible wrongs he has done to so many people. He will just whine and scream about he has been treated.
What is “tfg” an acronym for?
The Former Guy
Or This F*ing Guy
Ha!!
It's like that quote from Thelma & Louise ...MAX: You know, the one thing I can't figure out is whether these girls are real smart or just real, real lucky? HAL: Don't matter. Brains'll only get you so far and luck always runs out. In Trump's case that's GRAFT and CORRUPTION will only get you so far. This will bring him down. And before the election. And any number of possibilities -- from violence to a hardening of Republican conspiracy madness that the liberals are out to get them -- are possible. But as I write this 52% of us think we'll be better off for having gone through this and stood this Nazi dCown. He must NOT be allowed to incite an insurrection without consequences, and he must NOT be allowed to run again, for it he wins, that's the end of the republic. And before all of this is over, I want to know this: WHAT DOES TRUMP HAVE ON McCARTHY AND GAETZ? MTG is just terminally stupid and asinine, but I've been wondering, since McCarthy was willing to mortally embarrass himself running for speaker--and willing to lie in America's face ever since -- what Trump has on him. And Jordan. ... If we can hold real, real steady through the next year and a half, and get this man in jail and convict all the others who had a hand in January 6, the writing will be on the wall forevermore: you try to steal our country, and you'll be held to account for it.
So join us at a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned. We will share our respect forthe law VGo here to findone near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Totally agree. Thanks.
Yes, he's a draft dodger. It always puzzled me that so many veterans support Drumpf.
Stan ; Because they don't know that he is a Daft Codger! Or maybe They are Daft Codgers!
If this was any of us ordinary working class slobs under the same accusations as he's under, we'd already be in jail as a flight risk.
Yes, yes, yes!
His bigliest problem NOW is who he bunks with in his cell! Let's be honest here: he is physically incapable of protecting his obese body from . . . "new BFFs" let's say.
Even in a nice, white-collar prison there are BOUND to be maniacs enticed by him.
Sad!
Spot on Melissa!
Trump has pushed the GOP so far out on the limb of tenuous credibility that no shred of integrity can be found in almost any legislator seeking to stay in office. Simply put, they can’t make it past the primaries without his blessing, or withstand his ire.
Without Trump bolstering this imperiled limb through the sheer power of his myth, no politician would’ve been so brazen as to supplant democracy with #RepubloFascism on their own.
It takes a special kind of crook who sees himself as impervious to law to normalize hatred and blatant lies as a foundation for a political party, one willing to operate for many years without a set platform to run on.
Wouldn’t it be nice if Trump soon found himself
facing a quintet of juries? Might he then flee to Hungary to avoid cuffs and bars?
What does this say about the millions who support him no matter what?
How a large portion of Americans could be so thoroughly fooled is a sad realization and a problem that needs serious attention.
Trump maybe be gone and he leaving us a vast number of MAGA supporters desperate to find another authoritarian leader.
We must address this problem of misinformation and fear and hate dialog that passes as news.
Least we end up with another trump again.
Trump supporters are a type. Motivations are combinations of money (untaxed revenue); or glee, a form of entertainment for example satisfaction at experts being jostled by amateurs, as if knowledge is similar to opinion.
Low-information voters see “power” and leadership as a microphone and a grin. Trying to explain is, to them, more snobbery, they suffer from O.D.D., Oppositional Defiant Disorder, in that no matter what is said, they argue against community or society, It’s all down to “me,” individualism dressed as my-rights, my-freedoms. There is no hope of turning entertainment seekers into community-minded citizens, except, like at the Insurrection, asking something of them.
Membership is a motivator, those WANT to be part of something. The great democracy experiment (the U.S.), isn’t enough, they want to feel conflict, leadership, vanquishing someone with a laugh or sneer, but they’ll roll up their sleeves to do real work, or contribute cash, to ideas that appeal to personal righteousness, e.g., propaganda.
MAGA are susceptible to suggestion there is a bogeyman conspiracy. Publicity that is positive for society doesn’t filter through to them because judgements at expense of others feels good.
I agree with your assessment of low information voters who defiantly and cynically support the worst humanity has ever seen in a political candidate, and the most extreme form of anti-social movement. They don’t get civilization at all.
In better days, social norms, strong social institutions, and all else failing, the rule of law encouraged them to lay low and keep their heads down.
The real problem is the anti-social, anti-democratic culture among the filthy stinking rich classes who strategically undermine the institutions of democracy and trust in government. Human needs and fairness are not a consideration for them unless needs and desires can be exploited to advance their own interests. For instance, unleashing armed and dangerous conspiracy theorists on targeted groups and individuals. It only makes sense in terms of what the oligarchs are angling for, more chaos for most and less regulation for them. There are stratifications in MAGA. At the top are the monied ones. Next are the stooges pulling the levers for their owners rather than the people who voted for them. Then there are the low information voters who just want to have fun. They all should be frustrated to the nth degree. I’m not a lawyer but I’m sure that the first step in remediation of this crisis in democracy is justice being done in the courts according to law. And now before it gets worse!
Yes, Timely accountability, right-on!
So letgs show them where we, the people, are. Sign up to attend a "Not Above the Law" rally near you the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
- Carl Sagan
Trumpism, as now practiced, can be seen as a "pseudo-religion". It has all of the earmarks that true believers crave. He didn`t even have to say anything beyond his telling them what his enemies do to him is equivalent to their threatening the country. i.e., the he is the equivalent of the nation. And he is the victim, and he will sacrifice himself (as in Christianity). But in the end, he won`t. He will wiggle out of it, and in the end, disappoint his worshipers. As he did on Jan. 6th. I find it interesting that at the very point before the riot, he put VP Pence up for grabs. And since Pence didn`t do "the right thing", there was a rope awaiting the VP as punishment. And worse, Pence was declared persona-non-grata in the world of Trumpism. Hollywood will have a ball making movies of this.
Good points. Now make it real by attending a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
That Bret is the saddest fact.
You are so right in bringing this up and saying that it is a sad realization. What does this suggest about our culture perhaps or the inequities in our country? Saying this excuses no one but it does warrant our attention.
More likely Abu Dhabi or Oman. No extradition from UAE where it's warm.
Trump turns chicken and runs away! IMHO, this would be the best outcome for the country. No martyrdom for him. Maybe his supporters would finally see him for the coward and monster that he is, and the Republican party could slowly return to a normal conservative party that it once was. My hope...
To make him realize that we don't buy his lies and illegal actions, join a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arragined for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Ah, but the planet is getting hotter! A devil like him should be able to take it. Oman or Abu Dhabi might be fine.
Right; the country whose inhabitants described him, among other things, as a “ferret-wearing sh*tgibbon.”
Oh they love him, alright. They love to dunk on him.
JerryM? Are you being sarcastic, ironic? Scotland, Trump visited and was booed, laughed at, jeered. Laughing stock. Trump’s grandfather was not permitted to return, though he tried--oh, wait, that was Germany. Scotland has contempt for Trump. Trump TRIED to purchase a person’s property on edge of a golf course, no amount of money would move the non-seller, film of his jokes and quips at Trump’s expense revealed early what a low opinion of Trump the world has. Like, “the emperor has got no clothes!”, puzzled non-Americans could not understand how know nothing oddball got elected to anything.
JerryM? You are misinformed if you think individuals in Scotland admire Trump. Trump is the butt of jokes, an non-beloved idjit. https://youtu.be/C4dCX_zqBJs
And YOU are delusional and, apparently, illiterate.
I believe Jerry was being sarcastic.
What planet have you been living on?
I have long believed that he is a flight risk, and that may become probable as the courts and prosecutors come for him. One of these judges should formally order him not to leave the country and so order the Secret Service. Also, authorities should confiscate his passport and ground his flashy big jet.
Time for this lying, cheating SOB to face the music!
Makes me wonder if the court hopes Drumpf will flee and put an end to his control over the suckers.
We can impress this on him by attending "Not Above the Law" rallies the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 acttion. Go here to find one in your area: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
He shouldn’t be allowed exile. He’s an enemy of the state and has stolen state secrets. Containment or the death penalty are reasonable considering the crimes and continuing threat. I’m not a fan of the death penalty. Life in prison, by himself without social media or fellow criminals to keep him company, is best IMHO.
"..by himself.."?
well maybe a few felons as companions. Hard core felons who would enjoy trumps company, every day.
You’re kinder than me. I should never have the opportunity to decide his fate.
For several months now I have been thinking that when Trump decided he has or was about to lose everything via the courts, he will find a way to leave the country and find a place to hide. Where? Think Russia, Cuba, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, just off the top of my head. He owns his own large jet plane, and he has all that money people donated for his comeback. What an appropriate end to him. And, he would inadvertently save the tax payers the large costs of multiple trials.
So… Lock Him Up???!!!
Todd Telford : But would he get his way in Hungary? Mr Orban may have his own ideas about that. He may find himself in cuffs there, eventually. Or any other 'refuge' , because of who he is.
Not as much in-your-face opulence and upscale golfing in Magyarland as in some of his other favorite go-to kleptocracies.
We will show him that we don't have anm use for his lies. Go here to find a "Not Above the Law" rally near you the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I was raised and abused as a Southern Baptist female. I was groomed to “willingly submit” to God as my heavenly “Benevolent Dictator” and to the men in my family and church as “my very own Benevolent Dictators.” In 2021, I read a quote by a MAGA-T cultist and Republican lawmaker who called Trump “our country’s very own Benevolent Dictator”. Christofascism is not new. This is not a bug, but a feature of this coalition of cults. It is time to stop viewing this as religious freedom that operates within the laws of democracy.
My poll vote is all of the above.
Beyond, I am sorry you experienced that bullying patriarchal structure as you were growing up. Isn't it interesting that Trump and Kump play that same ridiculous patriarchal bullying game with this nation? It is a form of fascism and works best when the cult members have been conned into being willing submissives. Well, we all can do better and must do better. It is time We the People are fully "woke" and can face the bullies head on and call them out for their bad behavior and push them out of the way of the progress we need to save our nation and planet from global warming, fascism, ignorance, and general disrespect going on right now. There are no benevolent dictators!! We can do this!
Agreed! That the notion of a Benevolent Dictator is an oxymoron and a grift is the most liberating understanding beyond any reasonable doubt that I have ever had!
So can start by attending a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he isi arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
To Beyond the Dead End, it is disturbing to hear that happened to you. It is important to amplify your voice, especially now. Christofascism is not new. It has nothing to do with religious freedom and everything to do with a kind of social control that intends to eclipse all else.
I'm sorry that happened to you, and I'm sure you know you are not alone.
I am so glad you found your voice, and were able to realize that what you were normalized into was not normal, but abusive. You did nothing wrong and in fact have shown great strength of character. As we have seen with women who remain brain washed and remain in these cults or go further and join groups like Mothers for Liberty, just being a woman does not make you aware that you deserve equality and equity. Yours was the extreme version, but many girls and boys in America are given the same message, girls are here to serve boys. The # of women in top leadership positions has grown to 37%, which is better but still not reflective of the population. 153 out of 540 lawmakers in Congress are women. Much of misogyny has been normalized in ur culture, but we are making progress. I hope you find like minded people to be family with.
The DeSantis comment can be roughly translated as "Who you gonna believe, me of your lyin' eyes?"
My lyin' eyes tell me that in the end, Trump, DeSantis, MTG, Boebert, Goetz, McCarthy, and Uncle Tom Cobley and all, will actually be good for America.
We have to remain steadfast, and not waiver. "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out."
Go Jack go.
I like the quote from "I Claudius."
I love your sentiments. Make them real by attending a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Thanks. I'll go to the NYC demonstration on December 31.
Go Jack, go indeed!!
Trump’s nomination will result in a landslide victory for us. I believe we will take both the House and the Senate. ($17 hour living / fair wage passed?) He will pass an embittered, ranting old man. Which he probably already is.
Will, I hope you are right about a Democratic landslide next year, but what I have noticed over time, Democrats often choose to sit back and watch, so they don't have to say they participated. It happened last November in Florida and in New York, to name just two instances. How do we get Dems and independents to step up and commit themselves to vote for people who actually care for the work and the need to support all their constituents, not just the crazy, loud, obnoxious ones. How can we help them get past the Republican voter suppression that has been going on? Republicans are not interested in governing, just acquiring power and money to feed their addiction, and as much of both as they can get. Their base wants that too, but hasn't realized yet that they will never get ahead if Trump and Kump are in charge. I guess they like and find comfort in their constant blaming the "woke." It must make them feel important or smart or something. We should be able to defeat the bankrupt political party that the Repuvlicans have become.
The answer to your important question is: join an organization that is phone-banking, canvassing, sending postcards to Democratic voters, or driving them to the polls. The work has gone on steadily since 2020 (the special election of Warnock to the Senate from Georgia and the swinging of the Wisconsin Supreme Court against the MAGA autocrats are examples of its effectiveness): we're now preparing for the big push starting in September. Though Ohio needs our help NOW against its illegal August 8 special election to render ballot initiatives impossible, and the Virginia state elections will be held this November--we hope to swing the state back to the Democrats. There are many such organizations. The ones I've worked with are Swing Blue Alliance, Field Team 6, Sister District (good if you live in a blue state or district where activism isn't needed), and RideShare2Vote (getting voters to the polls in red states, where laws are being passed to make voting harder).
Mary, you are so right about getting involved, and what a lot of terrific things you are doing!
Most of the things you have described won't work for me as a blind woman, but I encourage my tutoring students to get their family members out to vote, preach the importance of staying informed and voting when I give sermons, sign many petitions, write a blog, and encourage people I know to work the polls. I figure each of us can do what is within our purview if we are willing to notice what that is, then we need to encourage people to notice.
Absolutely so--getting your students (and through them their families) out to vote is especially important: we MUST get young people involved. Good for you! You could phone-bank too, if you're anxious about a particular outcome (as I was for instance about the special election in OH, or the election of "Judge Janet" Protasiewicz to the WI Supreme Court). It's much easier now than it was (we don't have to dial), and we call people who--when they answer their phones--are glad to hear from us: they need information, or sometimes just a voice in the wilderness they may live in. I'm phone-phobic normally, but do it once or twice a week for an hour or sometimes two. My Zoom GOTV group with Swing Blue Alliance has gotten close enough that we have a Friday afternoon Zoom now just to talk about politics--things we've found to do, or news we should know from other people's areas or states.
We can also attend a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Show your respect for the law by attending: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Yes, and secure our US Cyber Department from domestic and foreign hackers.
I joined many of these phone banks and felt great when our candidates won, but I am still afraid the people who't stand up to him. If you will, start by attending a "Not Above the Law" rally the dsy he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Thanks for spreading the link!
YES!!!
Hi Ruth. Yes it is crazy. In Arizona where I I live Trump nuts with automatic weapons decided to become self appointed “guards” of mail-in ballot boxes during the recent midterms. Fortuitously the local sheriff moved swiftly to remove them. Not coincidentally AZ flipped massively blue. I really believe there is a silent majority (sorry to evoke a Nixonian phrase) that is watching the Trump / Republican nonsense and is increasingly repulsed. On Election Day they will render a wise judgment.
Oh Will, I like to believe that too. I do want to think the best of my fellow Americans. I admit it has been hard at times lately. It seems the most pathetic among us seem to get the most publicity as though they are the majority when in reality, they certainly are not. That's true even in the mixed-up red states where so many scared white folks live who want to pretend we can go back to some imaginary time when if one were the right kind of white man, he could do and get whatever he wanted. That time will never come again; it's too bad the red staters choose not to see that.
I would like to believe that as well. We have a Russian/Putin computer company in the USA. Why are they still here? Kaspersky Labs a Russian multinational cyber security and anti-virus provider headquartered in Moscow, a computer Malware (What is Malware? software that is designed to interfere with a computer's normal functioning and that can be used to commit cyber crime's.) company. Selling antivirus, internet security, and more.
Branch in Massachusetts, USA.
A Global company. Some Americans went to Russia and purchased part of this company. Russia is on top and I believe ahead of us in computer science and hacking. How to stop them from making Trump President again? They did it before. Could not do it with us using the US Mail. That is why the Republicans are trying to destroy out Postal Service. Let more of us wake-up. Save our USA from Russian Trump.
Hello, can anyone understand? All heads out from under rocks.
Are the American owners Neo-Nazis? White Nationalists? Members or heads of hate groups? Who brought this Russian company into the USA to cause havic?
Another Russian group here in the USA is called DarkSide, who are responsible for cyber and ransomware attacks. This group attacks hospitals, schools, and more.
Prayer is the key. Who can stop this type of evil? The Almighty, the creator of the Universe. The GOD of Love. Let us all pray, please.
No, not prayer. Trump probably prays all the time. Instead take action. Join a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes:https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Great online events work for me. Thank you so much Laura.
Bless you
Who is Donald praying too?
I will check it out. I too believe no one is above the law, yet the rich get away with so much.
Sorry, the Neo-Nazis have locations in all the states. Contact Southern Poverty Law Center and ask them to send you a map of all the Nazis and other hate groups. Shocking how they have grown here since over a thousand Nazis War Criminals were brought to our shores without going through immigration. Scary for all of us for sure.
Put your money where your (righteous) mouth is and join a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraiged for his Jan. 6 crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Oh, I do hope so!
Start by joining a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and stand up for the rule of law: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
They’d better start getting involved because--not kidding--these hate mongers are armed and itching to kill, kill, kill.
I like the optimism and the almost Shakespearean description of trump in his blathering senescence. May your words resonate with the friendly Fates that guide the mysteries of existence.
And may they prompt you to take action by joining a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Go here to find one near you: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
One area to watch is just how much this unfolding socio political crisis will serve to highlight just how the fourth estate and mass media have been hijacked by transnational criminal mobsters, like Rupert Murdoch and other fellow traveller hostile state players.
This elucidation of widespread corruption and abuse of media powers is not unrelated to the Hollywood strike and various violent culture wars within the mass education system.
Ultimately, Fox is going to take at the very least a huge hit. This is a very important secondary effect.
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Trump's WH legal advisor says "It isn't illegal to be crazy" in defense of the former President's actions. I completely agree with his thinking but when the craziness causes an individual to act in an illegal manner society is forced to take action. No one is above the law, crazy or not. May Mailman, who heads "RITE," an organization that is attempting to restore integrity to our elections, says 56% of all Republicans no longer trust the DOJ and the FBI. That thought is in line with the percentage of that party who blindly still follow Donald Trump. It's sad that those people cling to the misconception that Trump in all his glory had the 2020 election stolen from him by factions within our government that wanted to remove him from power. The movement wasn't from within our government it came from our population itself. The people were sick and tired of his childish antics and hateful rhetoric. Trump is a low-class person trying to hold on to a high-class image. Someone please throw a bucket of water on this man, let's see if Dorthy's accident is worthy of repeating itself. It really doesn't matter how the other side views the efforts of the DOJ, distasteful or not when the law is broken society is forced to take steps in order to maintain its rectitude. To step aside for Trump and excuse his behavior would degrade the rule of law this country functions under. The DOJ is doing what Trump has forced them to do, like it or not the 56% that find it difficult to see the truth will have to settle for the "dunce hat" if it fits.
You write the best comment of all. Yes, society has the responsibility to defend itself, whether from craziness in general, or hate, or murder/mass murder, or sociopathic actions. Thank you.
sumac01--It's difficult to say anything without offending someone. Thanks for the like.
I agree wholeheartedly with you, so I am encouraging you to attend a "Not Above the Law" the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes. Find one here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Trump, other MAGA politicians and their supporters are revealing themselves to be outright fascists.
And, as you observe, his oncoming Federal indictment will only increase the fervor of his base.
And more indictments are in the pipeline, such as in Georgia, where Trump's desperate and ridiculous lawsuit was correctly thrown out.
I also am pleased that in once-red Michigan, sixteen election deniers are being charged for their complicity in attempting to overturn the 2020 general elections results.
While this all this news is pleasing, we're still a country where red states are becoming quite fascist, like Florida, Tennessee, amongst others.
So, we've still go a long ways to go, but Trump's many legal problems brings a big smile to my brain and face.
Hitler's fascism included his alliance with corporations and breaking the unions. The new definitions of fascism don't include that.
It should because if Trump is somehow reelected that's exactly what will happen; like Ronald Reagan on meth.
Huh? Who do you think finances the puppets of the RNC? Who do you think is pulling the puppet strings? NEO NAZI, CHRISTO-FASCIST BILLIONAIRES, organized by the likes of Charles Koch, funneling money to the RNC via “CITIZENS UNITED”--falsely claiming corporations are people. It is CORPORATE MONEY. This is textbook FASCISM.
Hitler's fascism also had a religious right side to it, Gloria. Beyond that, the alliance with corporations is actually the definition of fascism.
And so does Trump's. Without the religious right, where would he be? We might even have abortion rights, a truthful education to offer our kids, strong unions, voting rights, etc. This has become a right wing circus powered by ignorance and religion.
But the Reps' intentions and actions do. Unions are being targeted, advocates fired and jailed and corporations running the country rthrough their support of these hateful legislators. It is just expanded to ensure big money to the top.
I vote other.
I still think he'll split. Compound his criminal liability by the fact that he will be facing civil judgments that will humiliate him.
Daniel, if Trump does run (he still has his passport, something anyone else who had stolen documents would never have been permitted), I wonder, would his family go too, or will they just let him hang out to dry wherever he goes and pretend they don't know him?
Daniel--You maybe right, his choices are dwindling by the day.
Saudi Arabia, or Russia? Would love to see him live as a refugee.
Part of me hopes you are correct, because it would reveal so much about who he is.
He is so recognizable that he will have to take his private jet, but I do hope he runs. Let some other country take his lies. Meanwhile, join a "Not Above the Law" rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
My dearest cohorts and siblings,
We are truly Generation “F”!
Under our watch, we allowed the corpirates of Fascism to steal our Constitution and to make their money and their power magically become their protected “free speech”!!!!
The spirits of the framers of our Constitution can have no peace until we pass HJR54, the We the People Amendment. It’s the only way to reverse Citizens United and all related SCOTUS rulings that rigged our system.
Generation F has but one chance to redeem ourselves. Time is running out. Better call your Congressional Reps now! Let’s end this corruption so that never again another Trump!
(Pancha Chandra): America is considered to be a nation of sound laws where democracy flourishes with clock-work fairness! However, when a pompous ex-President rides roughshod over long established rules & goads his supporters to insurrection, he should be charged with treason!
Yes! But this is America, the Wild West, where the gears of justice grind slowly but hopefully surely. I’m so angry that jerk got elected. He should be most severely punished.
So put yofr conjvictions into action and join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I don't know how this will play out. Im bewildered that Speaker McCarthy is ignoring the facts and attacking the DOJ. Seriously? I'm afraid this could lead to more violent acts, like J6 and threats to the President. It's sickening.
The Speaker of the House is obstructing justice and fermenting violence against the government by perpetuating dangerous lies. It's totally reckless. It's a new low for the Speaker and House.
I've said it before and I will say it again, Pelosi should push for a bi-partisan investigation into the GOP allegations of election theft. Let's see what the Cyber Ninjas and the Pillow Guy have to say and show.
I think the only way to address the false allegations of election theft are to shine a whole lot of light on the issue with a Congressional hearing and investigation. "Put up or shut up." Clearly, many people need to see the facts and hear the truth.
How will America choose? That is a frightening question, given so much lack of clarity in the voting public. And the chance of a third party spoiler candidate entering the race adds another level of worry. As to whether we will be stronger from this experience, the short answer would be (hopefully) yes - because we can shore up any aspects of our election process that might need it. But the caustic rot that seems to grow around Trump and his supporters - this is going to require time and patience, clarity and good leadership to cleanse and work itself out.
I feel very grateful for our democracy, with all it's imperfections, and I am appalled (and offended) by Trump's brazen ways. That power corrupts is an old truth; to experience this corruption is deeply disturbing.
So put your convictions into action and Join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes to show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
What you said. Me too.
Well, it's been a long time coming, but I think we're going to find out how much, how wide, and how deep his support is. I think it is going to be a rough ride, but at least it's out in the open. In the short term, I worry about all those guns out there.
progwoman ; That is what they want us to do ; worry and be afraid. I just have a question that I keep asking ; What is 'Homeland Security? It seems useless and does not enhance our security at all. It came into being during "W"'s reign. I don't remember our country being referred to as a 'Homeland'! I wonder how much of our tax dollars go to this "homeland Security"? Somehow, I don't think it will defend us against all those weapons out there! Where have they been since (and before) Jan 6th? Who are they and what do they do?
From the start, I thought Homeland was a bad choice of words. It was supposed to make us think we were being protected from evil perpetrators like the 9/11 highjackers, who trained right here even after some FBI offices raised suspicion. Homeland Security made life hell for many immigrants. I don't think they'll protect us from armed American insurrectionists.
Here’s what Homeland Security includes.
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/23_0221_dhs_public-organization-chart.pdf
So join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Justice is blind. Its time to bring back the application of law to everyone equally.
It matters not that you have several billion dollars to your name. Break the law and the consequences apply equally to you as someone lacking any wealth.
“ It’s time to bring back the application of law to everyone equally. “
T’was never this, alas, Bret. It is time perhaps to reimagine what the ideal of blind justice may be as we struggle today to bring that ideal, finally, to life.
See my comment above and join us for a day of action.
Great comnent. Now Put your convictions into action and join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
I too, believe these trials should be televised. Perhaps then, his blind followers will understand the truth of his criminal behavior, which includes duping them of their hard earned money. And when he is in prison and election time comes, they will think hard about who they vote into the Congress.
See my comment above and join us for a day of action to show our respect for the rule of law.
Join a “Not Above the Law” rally the day he is arraigned for his Jan. 6 crimes and show your respect for the rule of law. Find one near you here: https://www.mobilize.us/jan6hearings/
Lorren ; It may be that Fox viewers would not see the televised trial ; just like they did not see the Jan 6th material. (until McCarthy got ahold of it and it was altered).
Laurie, it is my impression that all Fox did was very selectively edit and present limited clips from Jan 6.
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