Friends, Forgive me for quoting someone whose words and thoughts I usually find reprehensible but this time reflect the views of a growing portion of Americans — including many progressives. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted on Presidents’ Day that “We need a national divorce. We need to separate by red states and blue states ….”
Most human beings actually want the same things - to live in safety, to have some joy and comfort in life, and to offer a promising future to their children. Focusing on the differences on how to attain these basic human rights only creates polarisation. The US has regressed into polarised lunacy in the past decades, influenced largely by forces like Steve Bannon and all he represents. “Follow the money” and we’ll find the source of this polarisation. We have been fools to worship money beyond all else, allowing elections to become dependent on absurd amounts of money rather than on candidates debating actual issues that affect us all.
What MTG suggests is treasonous. She swore an oath to protect the Constitution and has been gleefully breaking that oath without consequences over and over. While I logically agree with the choice that everyone is protected by the Constitution and that we should remain one country, I am feeling really pissed off this morning. So I checked Yes, let the deplorables go. I am sick and tired of them.
As usual, your comments are thoughtful and spot on.
The basic problem with MTG's suggestion is that we fought a deadly Civil War specifically for the purpose of holding America together and granting all citizens the right of self-government via the Constitution.
Since then, "states rights" have always been a rallying cry for those who, like MTG, don't want all Americans to have the full rights and protections accorded by the Constitution, and who don't believe in the equal protection of the laws.
To be sure, we exist in a federal system, in which the states play a large role — and there will be differences in state laws, reflecting differences in the wants and desires of voters in the various states. But we continue to be one nation, under one national Constitution, with one Bill of Rights, and one national government. That is every American's right, and responsibility.
Throw the traitors out of Congress. They took an oath and oaths mean something, not just a bunch of words. Brought up in a military family of immigrants who believed in honor and your word as gold. As a nurse, I took an oath and I still live by it. To take an oath is to pledge yourself and your sacred honor. If MTG doesn’t like it here then she should leave, but you can not violate your oath and get away with it. They don’t own the states they live in. If these MAGA republicans like Putin, move to Russia.
How absurd to even consider dividing our country by red and blue states. Another Civil War? MTG needs to go back to school and learn geography, history and civics. Read a map. Read the Constitution. What’s really troubling is that she and many of her colleagues believe that we cannot work together and states should secede. And her country will be white Christian families with Dad at work and Mom at home. Except for one or two repub women who get special dispensation to work outside the home. Listen up, MTG and friends, the people who live in this country are not red or blue. States are populated by humans with experiences, beliefs, commitment, needs that transcend political party. Repubs need to stop wasting time and start governing, if they can figure how and why.
If they did split, we Canadians would be glad to welcome the Union of Blue States as new provinces. That would keep them from being geographically separated and give us access to some nice California sunshine without having to leave the country.
It's not quite so simple. I can't cite numbers off the top of my head, but there's a lot more purple in the picture than the division into red and blue states implies. Take California: although it has been reliably blue in presidential politics and in electing Senators, there are red counties and districts. And many elections are close. Is Arizona a red state? Or did it turn blue when Democrats won some races by razor-thin margins?
Marjorie Taylor Greene is not famous for accuracy or depth of analysis. She needs to go somewhere and sit on her hands with her mouth shut, while taking some time to observe and think.
“It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.” <cf President Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg Address, Nov 19 1863>
As usual, your comments are thoughtful and spot on.
The basic problem with MTG's suggestion is that we fought a deadly Civil War specifically for the purpose of holding America together and granting all citizens the right of self-government via the Constitution.
Since then, "states rights" have always been a rallying cry for those who, like MTG, don't want all Americans to have the full rights and protections accorded by the Constitution, and who don't believe in the equal protection of the laws.
To be sure, we exist in a federal system, in which the states play a large role — and there will be differences in state laws, reflecting differences in the wants and desires of voters in the various states. But we continue to be one nation, under one national Constitution, with one Bill of Rights, and one national government. That is every American's right, and responsibility.
Please show all the blue and purple dots especially the urban areas and suburbans and even rural enclaves found in red states. You'll find it a very messy poxy divorce. We need to stop the "OR" narcissistic culture that everything is extremely bifurcated - us versus them - and focus on being an "AND" egalitarian culture of supporting and assuring each others' rights and freedom. Let's bake more pies together rather than argue about who gets the biggest slice of a fixed sized pie. We, the People, all of us this time!
The idea is so ridiculous that I don't even want to bless it with a comment. I applaud the person who reminded us of Lincoln's admonishment at Gettysburg. This country has seen traitorous politicians in the past, and almost certainly will see many more in the future. The important thing is for good people to stand up and continue to insist on honesty, integrity and inclusiveness among those who serve. If we fail to do that, as a people, then we probably deserve what we get.
Would that be by county or by state? Most cities are more blue than red. I think Georgia is going blue...Purple states would bounce from country to country, and border issues would make Brexit look like a cake walk.
On one hand I would love to do that but our country is very diverse! Especially the southern states. The death cult has cheated, lied and gerrymandered everything so even if more democratically (progressive) leaning ppl vote! We need to make them, the death cult, aware that this is the United States! If they don’t like it go back to Europe, whatever white country will take them...Hungary, Russia, China (Lmmfao) ... because the other white country’s are democracy’s where they take care of everyone! Healthcare, jobs, homes. Maggie traitor is seriously an idiot. It’s embarrassing that ppl voted her in office!
What ever happened to the notion of a more perfect union? The MTGs of the country just reflect sort term ignorance that has always been with us. We are better than that--ignore her.
Why do so many people pay attention to the imbecile of the House, MTG? She has nothing of value to say, and she has no idea what she is saying. She likes attention, and she learned that by saying outrageous things, she will get the attention she craves. But she is an imbecile. We have netter things to do than quoting her or listening to her. Why give her coverage like Trump got free coverage in 2016 and look what that did. Just ignore her.
The true picture of state identity is much more complicated than red vs blue. Gerrymandering in red states makes them appear more red. What we need is voting rights and reducing disinformation.
Most human beings actually want the same things - to live in safety, to have some joy and comfort in life, and to offer a promising future to their children. Focusing on the differences on how to attain these basic human rights only creates polarisation. The US has regressed into polarised lunacy in the past decades, influenced largely by forces like Steve Bannon and all he represents. “Follow the money” and we’ll find the source of this polarisation. We have been fools to worship money beyond all else, allowing elections to become dependent on absurd amounts of money rather than on candidates debating actual issues that affect us all.
What MTG suggests is treasonous. She swore an oath to protect the Constitution and has been gleefully breaking that oath without consequences over and over. While I logically agree with the choice that everyone is protected by the Constitution and that we should remain one country, I am feeling really pissed off this morning. So I checked Yes, let the deplorables go. I am sick and tired of them.
As usual, your comments are thoughtful and spot on.
The basic problem with MTG's suggestion is that we fought a deadly Civil War specifically for the purpose of holding America together and granting all citizens the right of self-government via the Constitution.
Since then, "states rights" have always been a rallying cry for those who, like MTG, don't want all Americans to have the full rights and protections accorded by the Constitution, and who don't believe in the equal protection of the laws.
To be sure, we exist in a federal system, in which the states play a large role — and there will be differences in state laws, reflecting differences in the wants and desires of voters in the various states. But we continue to be one nation, under one national Constitution, with one Bill of Rights, and one national government. That is every American's right, and responsibility.
Throw the traitors out of Congress. They took an oath and oaths mean something, not just a bunch of words. Brought up in a military family of immigrants who believed in honor and your word as gold. As a nurse, I took an oath and I still live by it. To take an oath is to pledge yourself and your sacred honor. If MTG doesn’t like it here then she should leave, but you can not violate your oath and get away with it. They don’t own the states they live in. If these MAGA republicans like Putin, move to Russia.
How absurd to even consider dividing our country by red and blue states. Another Civil War? MTG needs to go back to school and learn geography, history and civics. Read a map. Read the Constitution. What’s really troubling is that she and many of her colleagues believe that we cannot work together and states should secede. And her country will be white Christian families with Dad at work and Mom at home. Except for one or two repub women who get special dispensation to work outside the home. Listen up, MTG and friends, the people who live in this country are not red or blue. States are populated by humans with experiences, beliefs, commitment, needs that transcend political party. Repubs need to stop wasting time and start governing, if they can figure how and why.
If they did split, we Canadians would be glad to welcome the Union of Blue States as new provinces. That would keep them from being geographically separated and give us access to some nice California sunshine without having to leave the country.
It's not quite so simple. I can't cite numbers off the top of my head, but there's a lot more purple in the picture than the division into red and blue states implies. Take California: although it has been reliably blue in presidential politics and in electing Senators, there are red counties and districts. And many elections are close. Is Arizona a red state? Or did it turn blue when Democrats won some races by razor-thin margins?
Marjorie Taylor Greene is not famous for accuracy or depth of analysis. She needs to go somewhere and sit on her hands with her mouth shut, while taking some time to observe and think.
“It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.” <cf President Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg Address, Nov 19 1863>
As usual, your comments are thoughtful and spot on.
The basic problem with MTG's suggestion is that we fought a deadly Civil War specifically for the purpose of holding America together and granting all citizens the right of self-government via the Constitution.
Since then, "states rights" have always been a rallying cry for those who, like MTG, don't want all Americans to have the full rights and protections accorded by the Constitution, and who don't believe in the equal protection of the laws.
To be sure, we exist in a federal system, in which the states play a large role — and there will be differences in state laws, reflecting differences in the wants and desires of voters in the various states. But we continue to be one nation, under one national Constitution, with one Bill of Rights, and one national government. That is every American's right, and responsibility.
Please show all the blue and purple dots especially the urban areas and suburbans and even rural enclaves found in red states. You'll find it a very messy poxy divorce. We need to stop the "OR" narcissistic culture that everything is extremely bifurcated - us versus them - and focus on being an "AND" egalitarian culture of supporting and assuring each others' rights and freedom. Let's bake more pies together rather than argue about who gets the biggest slice of a fixed sized pie. We, the People, all of us this time!
The idea is so ridiculous that I don't even want to bless it with a comment. I applaud the person who reminded us of Lincoln's admonishment at Gettysburg. This country has seen traitorous politicians in the past, and almost certainly will see many more in the future. The important thing is for good people to stand up and continue to insist on honesty, integrity and inclusiveness among those who serve. If we fail to do that, as a people, then we probably deserve what we get.
Would that be by county or by state? Most cities are more blue than red. I think Georgia is going blue...Purple states would bounce from country to country, and border issues would make Brexit look like a cake walk.
On one hand I would love to do that but our country is very diverse! Especially the southern states. The death cult has cheated, lied and gerrymandered everything so even if more democratically (progressive) leaning ppl vote! We need to make them, the death cult, aware that this is the United States! If they don’t like it go back to Europe, whatever white country will take them...Hungary, Russia, China (Lmmfao) ... because the other white country’s are democracy’s where they take care of everyone! Healthcare, jobs, homes. Maggie traitor is seriously an idiot. It’s embarrassing that ppl voted her in office!
What ever happened to the notion of a more perfect union? The MTGs of the country just reflect sort term ignorance that has always been with us. We are better than that--ignore her.
Why do so many people pay attention to the imbecile of the House, MTG? She has nothing of value to say, and she has no idea what she is saying. She likes attention, and she learned that by saying outrageous things, she will get the attention she craves. But she is an imbecile. We have netter things to do than quoting her or listening to her. Why give her coverage like Trump got free coverage in 2016 and look what that did. Just ignore her.
The true picture of state identity is much more complicated than red vs blue. Gerrymandering in red states makes them appear more red. What we need is voting rights and reducing disinformation.