Trump views money in the same way the rest of us value the blood that flows through our veins. The moral standard by which the Trump mind's function would leave most clergy members blushing on the steps of their respective churches as they greet their parishioners arriving for Sunday morning mass. Robert has been kind enough to point out specific members of a certain wealthy family who elevate the dollar sign above the level reserved for our constitution. Like Richie Rich who loves the color of money, "No not that Greene," I'm referring to the one that has value. It appears the Mellon family has been dabbling in the political arena and sadly their social vision of how they see our future leaves most of us with a bad case of skin-cancer, a festering "Mellon-oma." These rich benefactors are supplying the Republican's movement with the money needed to feed and continue Trump's big lie. Donnie Boy has designs on being labeled the richest man in the world, a position most likely held currently by none other than Mr. Putin himself. As long as we allow money to speak for our people, the needs of the many will give way to the lifestyles of the few. Trump will smile as he reenters the Lincoln bedroom muttering, "It took the efforts of so many to build it, let's see how fast one man can tear it down." With a hideous sickening grin, he closes the door behind him.
That’s why we all need to take our country back from the rich while we still can. If Trump can find a way to rig the election in his favor he damn sure will
Donald, what you said, SO REMINDS me of, along with the pictures of the 4 generations of the Mellon inheritors Professor Reich has provided = Mr. Potter, the banker in
"It's A Wonderful Life' ,George Bailey's arch nemisis to the Bailey Savings and Loan, who at one point in the film also sported a 'hideous sickening grin' ~ ~ ~
I've also come up with partial lyrics to the old Irish ballad 'Danny Boy' =
" " " Oh Donnie Boy,
The greens, the greens,
are calling YOU,
from trap to trap
and by the water s(l)ide ~ ~ ~ * * *
{{{ just remembering that - the greens - is where 'Donnie Boy' buried his 1st wifey Ivana }}}
Anyone feel like coming up with additional lyrics ? ? ?
He and his partners in crime were grifting the American people from day one Remember that picture of Steve Mnuchin and his new bride checking out all the newly printed money?
He's already got a very large start, on many, many fronts. (And let's not forget the $2 BILLION given to the orange sadist's SIL, before O.S. was even out of office.)
Putin gets away with it, because he uses the police power of the state, and the police get testosterone orgasms, beating, arresting and repressing people.. Ready made fascists are cops.
Trump will do the same, and he has his own cadre of ready made fascists, at all levels from Federal to municipal. From the Secret Service and FBI to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.
Has anyone heard any of news of the FBI investigating this subversive (CSPOA)?
Bipartisan, compromising Biden is paying for his weakness. (Appointing Garland) Once again I find myself voting against, not for. I shudder to think of what Trump will do to to the country.
WHY President Biden didn't dump Garland after two years, when Garland had yet to take action regarding the Jan. 6 insurrection, is WAY beyond me. I wish Biden had (gently, of course, knowing Biden) shown him the door in early 2022.
"The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) is a political organization of local police officials in the United States who contend that federal and state government authorities are subordinate to the local authority of county sheriffs and police. Self-described constitutional sheriffs assert that they are the supreme legal authority with the power and duty to defy or disregard laws they regard as unconstitutional.[2][3] As a result, they may sometimes be referred to as sovereign sheriffs.[4] The movement is related to previous nullification and interposition notions,[1] and promotes such efforts.[5] It has been described as far-right by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[6] The CSPOA has claimed a membership of 400.[3]
According to the Associated Press, "details of its operations are closely held", and information on its finances, "where and how" it conducts its training, who its dues paying members are, have not been released to the public.[7] The group is now a private company according to indications of "internal records".[7]" (from Wiki)
I'd never even heard of this treasonous organization till now. I really appreciate your information. (Front page headlines, anyone? MSM, are you listening?)
Iknow it is easier to type MSM, and it is much used catch phrase but more accurate is Corporate media, save for a handful of Independent Media, all media in America is corporate owned and controlled.
That means that there is a CEO, COO, CFO, all hired by the board of directors for ideoloical and financial reasons.
There primary job is to produce the highest possible return on investment, and that includes forming public opinion.
The executives are hired by a board of directors, who themselves are sitting on other corporate boards and/or are CEO's of other corporate boards.
NBCUniversal, owns MSNBC, NBCUniversal is owned by Comcast. Comcast owns Xfinity and Frontier Communications
Comcast is notoriously right wing (pro business which is the chief financiers of the right wing)
Helene-My father would classify Trump as a "super thief." That's a man who steals another man's wife a little piece at a time. Seriously, Trump will copy Putin's world here in this country, right down to his liking for the Russian Golden Shower.
David--Whose idea was it to think the people wanted trickle down anything, look where it got MTG. The best part of her trickled down her mother's leg. The people want a "flow" down mentality to what they are missing in life. It isn't happening fast enough.
The pissed off Muslims, especially in Wayne Co, Michigan are going to have a rude awakening. If Trump wins he will start deporting them or rounding them up.
Watching Ayman Mohyeldin on MSNBC last night, he interviewed a prominet Muslim spokesperson,. Apparently the Muslms of Wayne county, are either going to sit out the election or vote against Biden for supporting Israel. (This is in itself proof that that conflict is a religious war, as the entire Muslim community has lined up on the side of HAMAS, using Gaza as an excuse)
This very easily could result in the election of Trump, and if so then the Muslims are too blame, but Ayman doesn't like that idea,he is trying to blame Biden.
Here is how the Muslims are to blame if Trump wins.
There are only five real swing states, AZ, NV, MI, PA, WI, Electoral votes for each are
AZ-11, NV-6, MI-15-PA-19, WI -10 a Total of 61 electoral votes will determine the presidency.
Republicans and Red leaning states control 235 electoral votes, Democrats - 226.
States that were swing states in 2020, like GA, Fl, NC are no longer swing states thanks to voter suppression and negation legislation .
The fate of the nation in Michigan depends on the Muslim and Black community, if they sit on their ass or vote third party, that means that Trump will have 250 electoral votes and only 20 more to go.
Remember the Democrats have 226 electoral votes in blue and blue leaning states. And need 44 more electoral votes to reach 270. With Michigan out of the equation, because of the Muslims and/or blacks. That leaves 51 votes, of which the Democrats need to get 44 and the Republicans
They are just as DELUSIONAL as SCUMp's MAGAt NAZIS if they fathom that they, being of the religion which they are, will have it any better here than those they are protesting against Biden and the Dems for in Gaza, once the SHITler is fully in power for LIFE! ;) :( :(
Helene, he will pick our pockets and if he can get banks to go along, he'll pick our bank accounts too. I don't think there is anything Trump won't do to get more money and power even though he is truly becoming seriously mentally inadequate. That jerk who can only spew ancient diatribes about his opponents, threaten hitlerism on us, and whine about how bad he is being treated is incapable of leading anything. Even his cult no longer listens to him beyond tuning in on specific words like Hillary, wall, immigrants, vermin, and a few others. They hear those words and cheer, knowing those words signal Trump's particular focus. Their brains don't have to notice anything else because there is almost nothing else.
Ruth, I think there is a very thin bulwark saving us from total computerized, AI theft from our banks and retirement accounts. The Dems are barely holding back the barbarians. if drumpf wins, all the safeguards will be abolished, and the oligarchs will take it all. we will have no recourse. the technology and ability, as well as the evil will, is there. if it can be done (evil actions) it will be done. that is human nature, apparently.
Just to note, America is not the greatest country on earth. EDIT: (to all the morons who can't follow a thread and seem to think I just decided to make a grand proclamation about the state of the USA, this is a direct response to the original comment in this thread. I dont know what half of you are getting your knickers in a twist over - end edit) Even before Citizens United, you treated your own citizens terribly. Get off the propaganda and all the chest thumping. That's part of the problem. Why do you think all the MAGA heads are so easily fooled, because of the same type of rhetoric that you are spouting
Ray, Decades, centuries ago, the influx of European people escaping their own religious rule and fascist, authoritarian countries, brought their brightest to us. The American ideal was admiral in many aspects. But today and for years we’ve not even been on the charts! That mantra is propaganda and many of us know it. Post WWI, and especially post WWII, we enjoyed a massive middle class, more comfort for more people. During that time we still had horrible mistreatment and exclusion of our black population. We had the Dulles Brothers and many other corporatists taking land in South & Central America and oil from Iran etc. Our CIA murdered to obtain THEIR resources. Any country that has been a major power, commits more atrocities than we’ll ever know. The British are another example of atrocious rule world-wide. Japan-ruthless!
These are the things education and media should teach us along with our good contributions. We can only change if we know the truth. Right now, the right wingers own our media and spew lies. That’s an incredible danger!
I agree 100%. 5th grade US History textbook (that I supplemened heavily with many and varied other sources when I taught in Ca public schools) was titled "America Will Be." It will be what every generation constructs and/or tolerates. Nothing real. Nothing tangible without the knowledge of from whence we came.
Another incredible danger is an improperly educated electorate who can’t tell the difference between the truth and lies. We can’t let the right wing control education or democracy will never work.
Life of the party Sol would be a thorn in the side of any government. But we need people like him to tell us the truth about ourselves, like Joseph Conrad.
Among some leaders it's not only fear but the desire for power. For wealth. For status among like fools that causes them to support evil.
"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"
Seeking reason - actually, the original influx of europeans were people of drumpf's ilk - grifters, get rich schemers' looking for gold or someone to steal it from. they "escaped" religious intolerance so they could practice their own brand of intolerance with amazing zeal. additionally, a significant number of criminals migrated here, escaping prison or the noose in their home countries. not that there hasn't been since then an amazing influx of talent, especially escaping the wars in europe 19th and 20th centuries.
I recommend Howard Zinn, A people's history of america
I'm sorry what point are you trying to respond to? It seems like I encapsulated 90%;of what you said in my own comment, so I'm not sure what it is you think I said, or what point you are trying to make.
Ray I point out that most of us are aware of this, and more. It’s an elaboration on what you said. If your name is printed on the front you should be able to figure out who it’s referencing. It got seems to have your panties in a knot! Jesus, calm down.
Did I say most people were ignorant of this? I was responding to a person who said that at some point America was the greatest country on earth. Now I understand, you wanted to belittle my point by 'expounding' and showing me the depth of your knowledge - as I read from your reply to Dawna (who also thought you were making some sort of argument, so I guess I wasn't the only one to query you there) your whole point was to say, "hey this isn't breaking news". Well it appears to be breaking news to the guy I was replying to and to a whole host of people in the USA who go round shouting We're number 1. So get your own panties out of a twist sister. If you were agreeing with me there was a simpler way to do it. If you wanted to say 'hey Ray, we all know that" " there was a more straightforward way to say it.
Are you a republican? Sounds like the only way to get your panties untwisted is to write as you dictate. Not going to happen. Your last name suits you well. Get over yourself.
I just finished reading Nina Burleigh’s book, “A Very Private Woman . . . “ and, yes, the Cold War rhetoric about the USA being the greatest in the world was hammered into propaganda by the recently formed CIA—and who were they? Entitled—wealthy—frat boys from Yale who became nosy, misogynistic, lawless, alcoholic Spooks spreading secrets, mostly amongst themselves and the press. They ruthlessly went after anyone they conjured up as “questionable,” including JFK, with the help of that OTHER right-wing, paranoid spy, J. Edgar Hoover. People and institutions like that guarantee that the US is NOT the greatest country on earth, and the proof is: from Bay of Pigs all the way up through validating tRump and his continuing position as the face of a right-wing conspiracy dedicated to overthrowing this democracy.
Remember Bush One proudly stating he was the "top SPOOK" when he was CIA head? Yep. Those "secret decoder ring, rich boys" basically were lawless rulers behind the scenes. One could successfully argue, they STILL are!
I brought one home once for dinner as a new LT; my father, a WWII vet, muttered something about not trusting him to sit in the livingroom🤣 I was once young and naive, too…
I think it's plain enough. I was replying to the person who said America was the greatest country in the world. That's the rhetoric and propaganda. Can you tell me how you misunderstood that?
“Communities working together made America the greatest country on earth.”
The sentence uses past tense and then blames “conservative “ policies for what we have become, Citizens United being the most egregious in the writer’s opinion. No need to rip this audience about your point.
Here! Let me arbitrate! Both sides are splitting hairs. I just finished reading Nina Burleigh’s book, “A Very Private Woman . . . “ and, yes, the Cold War rhetoric about the USA being the greatest in the world was hammered into propaganda by the recently formed CIA—and who were they? Entitled, frat boys from Yale who became nosy, misogynistic, lawless, alcoholic Spooks spreading secrets, mostly amongst themselves and the press. They ruthlessly went after anyone they conjured up as “questionable,” including JFK, with the help of that OTHER right-wing, paranoid spy, J. Edgar Hoover. People and institutions like that guarantee that the US is NOT the greatest country on earth, and the proof is: from Bay of Pigs all the way up through validating tRump and his continuing position as the face of a right-wing conspiracy dedicated to overthrowing this democracy.
Is trolling adding references and context to comments, now? Anyone choosing to turn a blind eye on wrongs of this nation is not doing due diligence in the cause of democracy. Do you think the CIA and FBI have perfectly served this nation and that this country is “the greatest” as a result of their involvement, foreign and domestic? No need to answer that if you can’t provide serious reference/context.
Laurie Blair seems to have a bee in her bonnet about people making honest criticisms. But doesn't seem to be able to establish any substantive point of her own. Yet she's calling other people 'trolls'..
💯 Ray. Among 1 million examples, life expectancy in the usa is shorter than in Cuba, in spite of Cuba’s 40% smoking rate. Cuba provides decent healthcare to all Cubans… and to all visitors.
Yes. Good example. The US is the largest economy but relative to its economic power and wealth, its health, education systems, support structures and even infrastructure is comparatively abysmal
Yup, it is WHY we hear that loud USA! USA! USA! chant at all of their SHITler's NAZI BUND MEETINGS!
The brown shirts would rather be screaming "Heil Trump", which I suspect will be coming along soon, given their putrid orange fuehrer's total embracing, voicing/admitting to, and 'owning of' his abject fascism.
Sadly, it's often supporters on both sides that chant the 'We're number one' BS. And politicians on both sides love it because they're halfway there in terms of stoking public opinion to go to war a steal some other countries resources..
The real problem is that the old money rich cannot admit that this country was built on entitlement and the redistribution of wealth. When a man came to this country 200 years ago saying, 'give me all the land I can farm, and kill whoever has it now so that you can give it to me; the first part is entitlement, 'give me all the land I can farm'; the second part is a redistribution of wealth, 'kill whoever now has it so that you can give it to me'. Without that entitlement and redistribution of wealth the Mellons would have never become the wealthy bankers they are today. Problems with the economy began when we ran out of land to steal. Franklin Roosevelt found a better way to redistribute wealth than rounding up the 1% and marching them 500 miles in the middle of winter to a reservation. Had he done that it would have been in the finest traditions of this county. Instead he just taxed them. Strange isn't it than the rich would complain so much? Would they rather be rounded up and put on a reservation, and all their possessions distributed among the rest of us? It seems to me that they are dealt with much more kindly that the original people who owned everything.
Actually, people can't begin to imagine such wealth. It is beyond what most would conceive. It is time tax rates reflect what people can pay. That hasn't been the case for MORE than 50 years. Middle class voters think they want their measly tax cut and it amounts to something. IT DOES NOT! If they understood taxation, they would DEMAND rich people pay what they should.
C.U. is an arrow in their quill . To divide and conquer . Now four VRBO's on my street. Where there used to be families and friends. Kids who went to school with mine. Now, strangers come and go. It dillutes a neighborhood, a community. All owned by faceless, nameless corps.
apparently Mellon was a Calvinist, along with Rockefeller, Carnegie and who knows who else.
Calvinism , rather the ideology of predestination is to blame for the woes of our time.
The idea that wealth is a sign of merit and poverty the sign or failure of character is the essence of Calvinism and Orthodox Judaism.. It is the rule of the elect, predestination, that
god deems one worthy at birth and proof of that is one's accumulation of wealth.
It is also the foundation of that scam, the Prosperity Doctrine, in which morons impoverish themselves to buy their pastors Rolex Watches, Mercedes and Private Airplanes.
First of all I was saying that we were the greatest country when our communities came together as one. Which country was greater than the USA back then? My point was that the oligarchs, i.e. Citizens United, are tearing the country apart with their lobbyists who control a lot of the government! We no longer have a government of the people, by the people and for the people.
Absolutely! I pray for a giant blue tsunami in November that will begin to wash away the 'Con'servative filth that has poisoned our supreme court and seriously eroded the world's trust in us.
SirK, my sister and I wrote complaints to GoFundMe about trump using it to obtain legal fees. In their service agreement, #9 states You may not use the GoFundMe services to obtain money to use in the legal defense of alleged financial and violent crimes. Our complaint pointed out that trump was violating that and his GoFundMe should be revoked. If enough people complained to GoFundMe, they would have to follow their own terms of service.
Thank you. I thought I read in their terms of service before. It should only take one person to point that out. Actually, they know it and should have stopped already.
Gloria, even if they allow it, they should receive a huge amount of complaints pointing out their terms of service and that trump is misusing it. I know my complaint will go nowhere, but it was something I could do so I did it!
Midwest, apparently they received enough complaints they came out with something over the weekend stating that trump would not receive a dime. I read it somewhere on this substack.
"They refuse to stop it. This is almost certainly relevant: "Jalen Drummond, the director of Go Fund Me public affairs, is also THE Jalen Drummond who is the former White House assistant press secretary for President Trump. Very suspicious!" (Alicia Norman from her excellent substack,)
They refuse to stop it. This is almost certainly relevant: "Jalen Drummond, the director of Go Fund Me public affairs, is also THE Jalen Drummond who is the former White House assistant press secretary for President Trump. Very suspicious!" (Alicia Norman from her excellent substack,)
They refuse to stop it. This is almost certainly relevant: "Jalen Drummond, the director of Go Fund Me public affairs, is also THE Jalen Drummond who is the former White House assistant press secretary for President Trump. Very suspicious!" (Alicia Norman from her excellent substack,)
GoFundMe issued a statement over the weekend stating this policy and that "President Trump" won't get a penny. I just wished they had said "former president..."
Affluence on steroids!
Communities working together made America the greatest country on earth.
Citizens United is tearing us apart!
It has to be repealed or our country will collapse!
Trump views money in the same way the rest of us value the blood that flows through our veins. The moral standard by which the Trump mind's function would leave most clergy members blushing on the steps of their respective churches as they greet their parishioners arriving for Sunday morning mass. Robert has been kind enough to point out specific members of a certain wealthy family who elevate the dollar sign above the level reserved for our constitution. Like Richie Rich who loves the color of money, "No not that Greene," I'm referring to the one that has value. It appears the Mellon family has been dabbling in the political arena and sadly their social vision of how they see our future leaves most of us with a bad case of skin-cancer, a festering "Mellon-oma." These rich benefactors are supplying the Republican's movement with the money needed to feed and continue Trump's big lie. Donnie Boy has designs on being labeled the richest man in the world, a position most likely held currently by none other than Mr. Putin himself. As long as we allow money to speak for our people, the needs of the many will give way to the lifestyles of the few. Trump will smile as he reenters the Lincoln bedroom muttering, "It took the efforts of so many to build it, let's see how fast one man can tear it down." With a hideous sickening grin, he closes the door behind him.
That’s why we all need to take our country back from the rich while we still can. If Trump can find a way to rig the election in his favor he damn sure will
It’s too late…
As long as patriotic Americans are still breathing it’s never too late!
The only moron here is you
Keith--If he hasn't done it by now, he surely will. The man makes a pretty good thief. I guess we all have our strong points.
The generationally rich know
T is a megalomaniac, but he
is a sincere megalomaniac
they think they can control to
keep their status quo . That mistake will cost us all .
Paul--It reminds me of the guy who created a black-hole in his garage and can't figure out where his wife went.
Well said, Mr. Hodgins. You created good visuals.
Gloria--I may have succeeded in the visuals but as for them being good that is a different matter.
Right!
Donald, what you said, SO REMINDS me of, along with the pictures of the 4 generations of the Mellon inheritors Professor Reich has provided = Mr. Potter, the banker in
"It's A Wonderful Life' ,George Bailey's arch nemisis to the Bailey Savings and Loan, who at one point in the film also sported a 'hideous sickening grin' ~ ~ ~
I've also come up with partial lyrics to the old Irish ballad 'Danny Boy' =
" " " Oh Donnie Boy,
The greens, the greens,
are calling YOU,
from trap to trap
and by the water s(l)ide ~ ~ ~ * * *
{{{ just remembering that - the greens - is where 'Donnie Boy' buried his 1st wifey Ivana }}}
Anyone feel like coming up with additional lyrics ? ? ?
I really wanna know what's buried in that coffin? Cash, classifed documents? someone else?
Dale--I'm still waiting to hear the bells. Do you really think she fell down her own stairs.
Donald,,, more like a 'clank, clank, clank' (if you are referencing Ivana's burial ?)
as all the 'bling' went into the - green's with her (Donnie would have kept the 'real bling' for himself I'm sure ~~~
Dale--From green to Greene. Trump just can't keep his putter where it belongs.
LOVE your quick wit Donald!!
"Mellon-oma", that's a GOOD one!! :)
David--I'm sorry, the older I get the sicker my mind becomes.
Donald, that being the case, keep getting older!
Stephanie--That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a long time.
Chilling
He already has stolen in so many ways. But yes, it will get worse if he becomes ---I don't even want to say it.
Has done so far
He and his partners in crime were grifting the American people from day one Remember that picture of Steve Mnuchin and his new bride checking out all the newly printed money?
Remember the picture of Mnuchin and McConnell at Fort Knox. The fox watching the hen house.
SO disgusting.
He's already got a very large start, on many, many fronts. (And let's not forget the $2 BILLION given to the orange sadist's SIL, before O.S. was even out of office.)
Putin gets away with it, because he uses the police power of the state, and the police get testosterone orgasms, beating, arresting and repressing people.. Ready made fascists are cops.
Trump will do the same, and he has his own cadre of ready made fascists, at all levels from Federal to municipal. From the Secret Service and FBI to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.
Has anyone heard any of news of the FBI investigating this subversive (CSPOA)?
naw, garland quashed it. plus, how would one "investigate" one's brethren?
Yep, figures.
Bipartisan, compromising Biden is paying for his weakness. (Appointing Garland) Once again I find myself voting against, not for. I shudder to think of what Trump will do to to the country.
WHY President Biden didn't dump Garland after two years, when Garland had yet to take action regarding the Jan. 6 insurrection, is WAY beyond me. I wish Biden had (gently, of course, knowing Biden) shown him the door in early 2022.
Garland has proven to be a complete disaster. In retrospect, the pugs would probably be satisfied with him if he'd made it to SCOTUS.
"The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) is a political organization of local police officials in the United States who contend that federal and state government authorities are subordinate to the local authority of county sheriffs and police. Self-described constitutional sheriffs assert that they are the supreme legal authority with the power and duty to defy or disregard laws they regard as unconstitutional.[2][3] As a result, they may sometimes be referred to as sovereign sheriffs.[4] The movement is related to previous nullification and interposition notions,[1] and promotes such efforts.[5] It has been described as far-right by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[6] The CSPOA has claimed a membership of 400.[3]
According to the Associated Press, "details of its operations are closely held", and information on its finances, "where and how" it conducts its training, who its dues paying members are, have not been released to the public.[7] The group is now a private company according to indications of "internal records".[7]" (from Wiki)
I'd never even heard of this treasonous organization till now. I really appreciate your information. (Front page headlines, anyone? MSM, are you listening?)
Iknow it is easier to type MSM, and it is much used catch phrase but more accurate is Corporate media, save for a handful of Independent Media, all media in America is corporate owned and controlled.
That means that there is a CEO, COO, CFO, all hired by the board of directors for ideoloical and financial reasons.
There primary job is to produce the highest possible return on investment, and that includes forming public opinion.
The executives are hired by a board of directors, who themselves are sitting on other corporate boards and/or are CEO's of other corporate boards.
NBCUniversal, owns MSNBC, NBCUniversal is owned by Comcast. Comcast owns Xfinity and Frontier Communications
Comcast is notoriously right wing (pro business which is the chief financiers of the right wing)
CNN is owned by Warner Bros, Discovery. Discovery is owned by Advance Corporation which is a Newhouse family enterprise owned by Donald Newhouse. Institutions hold 61% of Warner Brothers main among them is Vanguard Group, which also has holdings in other Media companies.https://finance.yahoo.com/news/warner-bros-discovery-inc-nasdaq-130011682.html#:~:text=wield%20significant%20power.-,Warner%20Bros.,respectively%2C%20Advance%20Publications%2C%20Inc.
Suggest you do a Who owns (type in name of your choice)
Check out the biographies of the BoD of Comcast https://www.cmcsa.com/corporate-governance/board-of-directors
Helene--If we give him the chance.
Helene-My father would classify Trump as a "super thief." That's a man who steals another man's wife a little piece at a time. Seriously, Trump will copy Putin's world here in this country, right down to his liking for the Russian Golden Shower.
The SCUMpian version of 'trickle down'.
David--Whose idea was it to think the people wanted trickle down anything, look where it got MTG. The best part of her trickled down her mother's leg. The people want a "flow" down mentality to what they are missing in life. It isn't happening fast enough.
Helene--"Scream" that to the people in Dearborn Michigan. These people are willing to cut off their noses to spite their faces.
The pissed off Muslims, especially in Wayne Co, Michigan are going to have a rude awakening. If Trump wins he will start deporting them or rounding them up.
Watching Ayman Mohyeldin on MSNBC last night, he interviewed a prominet Muslim spokesperson,. Apparently the Muslms of Wayne county, are either going to sit out the election or vote against Biden for supporting Israel. (This is in itself proof that that conflict is a religious war, as the entire Muslim community has lined up on the side of HAMAS, using Gaza as an excuse)
This very easily could result in the election of Trump, and if so then the Muslims are too blame, but Ayman doesn't like that idea,he is trying to blame Biden.
Here is how the Muslims are to blame if Trump wins.
There are only five real swing states, AZ, NV, MI, PA, WI, Electoral votes for each are
AZ-11, NV-6, MI-15-PA-19, WI -10 a Total of 61 electoral votes will determine the presidency.
Republicans and Red leaning states control 235 electoral votes, Democrats - 226.
States that were swing states in 2020, like GA, Fl, NC are no longer swing states thanks to voter suppression and negation legislation .
The fate of the nation in Michigan depends on the Muslim and Black community, if they sit on their ass or vote third party, that means that Trump will have 250 electoral votes and only 20 more to go.
Remember the Democrats have 226 electoral votes in blue and blue leaning states. And need 44 more electoral votes to reach 270. With Michigan out of the equation, because of the Muslims and/or blacks. That leaves 51 votes, of which the Democrats need to get 44 and the Republicans
They are just as DELUSIONAL as SCUMp's MAGAt NAZIS if they fathom that they, being of the religion which they are, will have it any better here than those they are protesting against Biden and the Dems for in Gaza, once the SHITler is fully in power for LIFE! ;) :( :(
Helene, he will pick our pockets and if he can get banks to go along, he'll pick our bank accounts too. I don't think there is anything Trump won't do to get more money and power even though he is truly becoming seriously mentally inadequate. That jerk who can only spew ancient diatribes about his opponents, threaten hitlerism on us, and whine about how bad he is being treated is incapable of leading anything. Even his cult no longer listens to him beyond tuning in on specific words like Hillary, wall, immigrants, vermin, and a few others. They hear those words and cheer, knowing those words signal Trump's particular focus. Their brains don't have to notice anything else because there is almost nothing else.
Ruth, I think there is a very thin bulwark saving us from total computerized, AI theft from our banks and retirement accounts. The Dems are barely holding back the barbarians. if drumpf wins, all the safeguards will be abolished, and the oligarchs will take it all. we will have no recourse. the technology and ability, as well as the evil will, is there. if it can be done (evil actions) it will be done. that is human nature, apparently.
Just to note, America is not the greatest country on earth. EDIT: (to all the morons who can't follow a thread and seem to think I just decided to make a grand proclamation about the state of the USA, this is a direct response to the original comment in this thread. I dont know what half of you are getting your knickers in a twist over - end edit) Even before Citizens United, you treated your own citizens terribly. Get off the propaganda and all the chest thumping. That's part of the problem. Why do you think all the MAGA heads are so easily fooled, because of the same type of rhetoric that you are spouting
Ray, Decades, centuries ago, the influx of European people escaping their own religious rule and fascist, authoritarian countries, brought their brightest to us. The American ideal was admiral in many aspects. But today and for years we’ve not even been on the charts! That mantra is propaganda and many of us know it. Post WWI, and especially post WWII, we enjoyed a massive middle class, more comfort for more people. During that time we still had horrible mistreatment and exclusion of our black population. We had the Dulles Brothers and many other corporatists taking land in South & Central America and oil from Iran etc. Our CIA murdered to obtain THEIR resources. Any country that has been a major power, commits more atrocities than we’ll ever know. The British are another example of atrocious rule world-wide. Japan-ruthless!
These are the things education and media should teach us along with our good contributions. We can only change if we know the truth. Right now, the right wingers own our media and spew lies. That’s an incredible danger!
I agree 100%. 5th grade US History textbook (that I supplemened heavily with many and varied other sources when I taught in Ca public schools) was titled "America Will Be." It will be what every generation constructs and/or tolerates. Nothing real. Nothing tangible without the knowledge of from whence we came.
Another incredible danger is an improperly educated electorate who can’t tell the difference between the truth and lies. We can’t let the right wing control education or democracy will never work.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/solzhenitsyns-warning-for-the-united-states/677508/
Life of the party Sol would be a thorn in the side of any government. But we need people like him to tell us the truth about ourselves, like Joseph Conrad.
Among some leaders it's not only fear but the desire for power. For wealth. For status among like fools that causes them to support evil.
"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Seeking reason - actually, the original influx of europeans were people of drumpf's ilk - grifters, get rich schemers' looking for gold or someone to steal it from. they "escaped" religious intolerance so they could practice their own brand of intolerance with amazing zeal. additionally, a significant number of criminals migrated here, escaping prison or the noose in their home countries. not that there hasn't been since then an amazing influx of talent, especially escaping the wars in europe 19th and 20th centuries.
I recommend Howard Zinn, A people's history of america
All that is true! Where is the argument, here?
Why the hell does it need to be an argument? I’m agreeing but I point out that many know this. Ray’s statement isn’t the news he thinks it is.
I'm sorry what point are you trying to respond to? It seems like I encapsulated 90%;of what you said in my own comment, so I'm not sure what it is you think I said, or what point you are trying to make.
Ray I point out that most of us are aware of this, and more. It’s an elaboration on what you said. If your name is printed on the front you should be able to figure out who it’s referencing. It got seems to have your panties in a knot! Jesus, calm down.
Did I say most people were ignorant of this? I was responding to a person who said that at some point America was the greatest country on earth. Now I understand, you wanted to belittle my point by 'expounding' and showing me the depth of your knowledge - as I read from your reply to Dawna (who also thought you were making some sort of argument, so I guess I wasn't the only one to query you there) your whole point was to say, "hey this isn't breaking news". Well it appears to be breaking news to the guy I was replying to and to a whole host of people in the USA who go round shouting We're number 1. So get your own panties out of a twist sister. If you were agreeing with me there was a simpler way to do it. If you wanted to say 'hey Ray, we all know that" " there was a more straightforward way to say it.
Are you a republican? Sounds like the only way to get your panties untwisted is to write as you dictate. Not going to happen. Your last name suits you well. Get over yourself.
I just finished reading Nina Burleigh’s book, “A Very Private Woman . . . “ and, yes, the Cold War rhetoric about the USA being the greatest in the world was hammered into propaganda by the recently formed CIA—and who were they? Entitled—wealthy—frat boys from Yale who became nosy, misogynistic, lawless, alcoholic Spooks spreading secrets, mostly amongst themselves and the press. They ruthlessly went after anyone they conjured up as “questionable,” including JFK, with the help of that OTHER right-wing, paranoid spy, J. Edgar Hoover. People and institutions like that guarantee that the US is NOT the greatest country on earth, and the proof is: from Bay of Pigs all the way up through validating tRump and his continuing position as the face of a right-wing conspiracy dedicated to overthrowing this democracy.
Remember Bush One proudly stating he was the "top SPOOK" when he was CIA head? Yep. Those "secret decoder ring, rich boys" basically were lawless rulers behind the scenes. One could successfully argue, they STILL are!
Yyyyup!
I brought one home once for dinner as a new LT; my father, a WWII vet, muttered something about not trusting him to sit in the livingroom🤣 I was once young and naive, too…
Go bash people some other place, like Russia!
I have a DD214 . What have you done for your country?
Whose rhetoric are you referring to?
Did you read my comment?
Ray Payne: Then stay in your own country. And mind your own business.
Where I come from or where I live has nothing to do with facts or EVEN my opinion. Try educate yourself before you embarrass yourself.
Troll! You just want to insult! Take your BS elsewhere
Yes. Asking for clarity. Are you referring to American propaganda?
I think it's plain enough. I was replying to the person who said America was the greatest country in the world. That's the rhetoric and propaganda. Can you tell me how you misunderstood that?
I think you misread the comment that irked you:
“Communities working together made America the greatest country on earth.”
The sentence uses past tense and then blames “conservative “ policies for what we have become, Citizens United being the most egregious in the writer’s opinion. No need to rip this audience about your point.
I didn't see the original comment, for starters. 🤨
Meanwhile, Mr Levitan considers another possibility.
How about turning down the hostility a bit?
Here! Let me arbitrate! Both sides are splitting hairs. I just finished reading Nina Burleigh’s book, “A Very Private Woman . . . “ and, yes, the Cold War rhetoric about the USA being the greatest in the world was hammered into propaganda by the recently formed CIA—and who were they? Entitled, frat boys from Yale who became nosy, misogynistic, lawless, alcoholic Spooks spreading secrets, mostly amongst themselves and the press. They ruthlessly went after anyone they conjured up as “questionable,” including JFK, with the help of that OTHER right-wing, paranoid spy, J. Edgar Hoover. People and institutions like that guarantee that the US is NOT the greatest country on earth, and the proof is: from Bay of Pigs all the way up through validating tRump and his continuing position as the face of a right-wing conspiracy dedicated to overthrowing this democracy.
Yyyyup. Just wanted to add context.
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Ok 👍
Trolling together
Is trolling adding references and context to comments, now? Anyone choosing to turn a blind eye on wrongs of this nation is not doing due diligence in the cause of democracy. Do you think the CIA and FBI have perfectly served this nation and that this country is “the greatest” as a result of their involvement, foreign and domestic? No need to answer that if you can’t provide serious reference/context.
Laurie Blair seems to have a bee in her bonnet about people making honest criticisms. But doesn't seem to be able to establish any substantive point of her own. Yet she's calling other people 'trolls'..
💯 Ray. Among 1 million examples, life expectancy in the usa is shorter than in Cuba, in spite of Cuba’s 40% smoking rate. Cuba provides decent healthcare to all Cubans… and to all visitors.
Yes. Good example. The US is the largest economy but relative to its economic power and wealth, its health, education systems, support structures and even infrastructure is comparatively abysmal
Yup, it is WHY we hear that loud USA! USA! USA! chant at all of their SHITler's NAZI BUND MEETINGS!
The brown shirts would rather be screaming "Heil Trump", which I suspect will be coming along soon, given their putrid orange fuehrer's total embracing, voicing/admitting to, and 'owning of' his abject fascism.
Sadly, it's often supporters on both sides that chant the 'We're number one' BS. And politicians on both sides love it because they're halfway there in terms of stoking public opinion to go to war a steal some other countries resources..
The real problem is that the old money rich cannot admit that this country was built on entitlement and the redistribution of wealth. When a man came to this country 200 years ago saying, 'give me all the land I can farm, and kill whoever has it now so that you can give it to me; the first part is entitlement, 'give me all the land I can farm'; the second part is a redistribution of wealth, 'kill whoever now has it so that you can give it to me'. Without that entitlement and redistribution of wealth the Mellons would have never become the wealthy bankers they are today. Problems with the economy began when we ran out of land to steal. Franklin Roosevelt found a better way to redistribute wealth than rounding up the 1% and marching them 500 miles in the middle of winter to a reservation. Had he done that it would have been in the finest traditions of this county. Instead he just taxed them. Strange isn't it than the rich would complain so much? Would they rather be rounded up and put on a reservation, and all their possessions distributed among the rest of us? It seems to me that they are dealt with much more kindly that the original people who owned everything.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/solzhenitsyns-warning-for-the-united-states/677508/
Actually, people can't begin to imagine such wealth. It is beyond what most would conceive. It is time tax rates reflect what people can pay. That hasn't been the case for MORE than 50 years. Middle class voters think they want their measly tax cut and it amounts to something. IT DOES NOT! If they understood taxation, they would DEMAND rich people pay what they should.
Our country would look a lot like a Utopian nation if the wealthy would just share some of their wealth!
C.U. is an arrow in their quill . To divide and conquer . Now four VRBO's on my street. Where there used to be families and friends. Kids who went to school with mine. Now, strangers come and go. It dillutes a neighborhood, a community. All owned by faceless, nameless corps.
The right wingers have been executing their takeover plan for a while. Many Americans have been sleeping through it!
Or working harder and harder to survive in the US.
It BAFFLES AND CONFOUNDS me why President Biden, with all his historic wins FOR AMERICANS, REFUSES to even THINK of righting this deadly wrong!
Until Citizens United is KILLED, Americans will NEVER rule America.
apparently Mellon was a Calvinist, along with Rockefeller, Carnegie and who knows who else.
Calvinism , rather the ideology of predestination is to blame for the woes of our time.
The idea that wealth is a sign of merit and poverty the sign or failure of character is the essence of Calvinism and Orthodox Judaism.. It is the rule of the elect, predestination, that
god deems one worthy at birth and proof of that is one's accumulation of wealth.
It is also the foundation of that scam, the Prosperity Doctrine, in which morons impoverish themselves to buy their pastors Rolex Watches, Mercedes and Private Airplanes.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/solzhenitsyns-warning-for-the-united-states/677508/
"Communities working together made America the greatest country on earth"
perhaps you mean this: IF Communities HAD BEEN working together IT MIGHT HAVE made America the greatest country on earth.
First of all I was saying that we were the greatest country when our communities came together as one. Which country was greater than the USA back then? My point was that the oligarchs, i.e. Citizens United, are tearing the country apart with their lobbyists who control a lot of the government! We no longer have a government of the people, by the people and for the people.
Of course you mean the Citizens United Supreme court decision is tearing us apart, correct?
Yes
Absolutely! I pray for a giant blue tsunami in November that will begin to wash away the 'Con'servative filth that has poisoned our supreme court and seriously eroded the world's trust in us.
Excellent work, thank you Janet
I will give The Con a look when I get some free time
SirK, my sister and I wrote complaints to GoFundMe about trump using it to obtain legal fees. In their service agreement, #9 states You may not use the GoFundMe services to obtain money to use in the legal defense of alleged financial and violent crimes. Our complaint pointed out that trump was violating that and his GoFundMe should be revoked. If enough people complained to GoFundMe, they would have to follow their own terms of service.
Thank you. I thought I read in their terms of service before. It should only take one person to point that out. Actually, they know it and should have stopped already.
Gloria, even if they allow it, they should receive a huge amount of complaints pointing out their terms of service and that trump is misusing it. I know my complaint will go nowhere, but it was something I could do so I did it!
Good for you. Maybe an attorney can note what you found out.
You should write to a newspaper journalist about this. Maybe they will publicly shame GoFundMe.
Midwest, apparently they received enough complaints they came out with something over the weekend stating that trump would not receive a dime. I read it somewhere on this substack.
They sure as hell SHOULD!
"They refuse to stop it. This is almost certainly relevant: "Jalen Drummond, the director of Go Fund Me public affairs, is also THE Jalen Drummond who is the former White House assistant press secretary for President Trump. Very suspicious!" (Alicia Norman from her excellent substack,)
https://cnn.com/2021/11/10/politics/list-january-6-subpoenas/index.html
They refuse to stop it. This is almost certainly relevant: "Jalen Drummond, the director of Go Fund Me public affairs, is also THE Jalen Drummond who is the former White House assistant press secretary for President Trump. Very suspicious!" (Alicia Norman from her excellent substack,)
https://cnn.com/2021/11/10/politics/list-january-6-subpoenas/index.html
They refuse to stop it. This is almost certainly relevant: "Jalen Drummond, the director of Go Fund Me public affairs, is also THE Jalen Drummond who is the former White House assistant press secretary for President Trump. Very suspicious!" (Alicia Norman from her excellent substack,)
https://cnn.com/2021/11/10/politics/list-january-6-subpoenas/index.html
GoFundMe issued a statement over the weekend stating this policy and that "President Trump" won't get a penny. I just wished they had said "former president..."
Criminal in chief: election thief
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/solzhenitsyns-warning-for-the-united-states/677508/
Citizen trump or exPresident trump would also do nicely! I'm glad to hear they will stick by their policy.
Their "promise" to - 'stick by their policy' - is easy to say.
They MUST be made to follow through on this !
Agreed, Dale, but how?
So what happens to the money? Do they refund it?
I think they should donate it to women’s rights groups. It’s been women so far that cost him millions, lol.
Give it to either Planned Parenthood or reproductive rights group.
He owes women that and much more for all his misogynistic behavior for a great while!
the media, if not the state AG, could report on this GoFundMe allegation.