Once again his rhetoric is inciting violence. 2 schools had to shutdown in Springfield, Illinois because of bomb threats after Trump, Vance & Loomer falsely accused Haitian immigrants of eating cats & dogs. They should be held accountable.
Marlo - Isn’t it horrible that the Republicans are once again resorting to such horrific tactics just to get voters to vote out of a fear based on something that Doesn’t Even Exist!? Moreno, Vance and his ilk are truly disgraceful, disgusting and desperate.
Oh, and by the way I Got My “like” button BACK!! Watch out everyone because I might just get a little crazy liking a whole bunch of posts!! New iPad with the updated system seemed to be my problem.
Cyrano - I apparently lost my “like” button when my iPad (a very old iPad) stopped updating passed 15.something. I can’t use my phone to read because my eyesight is for crap. I knew that there would come a time where I would have to get a new one because the only way for companies to make money is to make you get rid of a perfectly good device by refusing to update the system. For years I told my family that all I wanted for a present was gift cards so I could save them up to one day plunk down an outrageous amount of money for a device that I really didn’t need except for it to be updated/upgraded. Once I got this new one up and running I all of a sudden got my “like” abilities back.
G G has other really good ideas that have worked for them if you are on a computer or something else. G G has suggested to try switching browsers and other tidbits.
It is truly frustrating to lose your ability to like posts but I am beginning to believe that it is not a problem with just a certain substack. But I also am an idiot when it comes to technology so maybe I am completely wrong - but just know that you are not alone. ;)
Trump will never go away. Physically, yes. Spiritually, into a deep, dark hole of despair and hopelessness, because that is the way he lived. His legacy of turmoil, distrust, deception and divisiveness will live on, in fact has always been alive and ill, but will be coalesced in a segment of the population that has simmering beneath the surface, waiting for someone to lead them in their pursuit of unhappiness, and willing to follow anyone who delivers the proper siren song and is given the voice to do it.
Sadly, I agree, because Trump is a symptom of the failure of our system to benefit everyone. We have to tackle the monumental task of remaking this country into the nation it COULD be, if everyone really believed in its founding principles of freedom, liberty, and justice for all, which also means economic fairness for everyone. Not this dog-eat-dog, billionaires rule and the rest of us struggle bullshit we've got now.
As for Trump himself, I think his mental derailment will continue and increase to the point of mindless babbling while his handlers unsuccessfully try and rein him in, but his legacy of violence and hate will live on. That's why I say this is going to take all of us working together to do nothing less than change the entire trajectory of this country. Otherwise, we'll be looking at Trump 2.0 once the current monster is gone.
I just had a sinking thought about the USA future after tfg loses the election. We Americans, not to exclude the rest of the world, have endured a decade of torture at this persons mouth and addled brain. The fatigue levels are building as we get closer to Election Day.
But I digress, tfg will declare his candidacy for president in 2028 the day of the inauguration. I am an old coot and a contemporary. It is hard to swallow the possibility that I might go to my grave without a days peace from that jerks mug on my nightly newscast.
You made me laugh and cry at the same time. Of course he's going to waste time and millions of dollars whining and bitching that the election was stolen--again. MAYBE someone will be able to shut him down so we don't have to go on that pointless road trip.
Once he runs out of steam on that front, I'm sure he'll start campaigning for 2028. You're absolutely right; he can't step out of the spotlight. It's disheartening and infuriating. President Biden could cure cancer, President Harris could broker a lasting peace in the Middle East, and Trump could fart. What will the media spend its time covering?
I am as sick of his big mouth and his incessant presence as you are. As President Obama said, he has not stopped whining and complaining about his problems since he came down his golden escalator nine years ago.
He's in every news feed, on every front page, on every website. Unfortunately, he will probably live to be 100. Fortunately, his brain hasn't got that long to go, and maybe when he's medicated in a room somewhere he will finally STFU.
Karla and all: I wonder what would happen if, for whatever reason, Mr. Trump did stop campaigning, either now or he didn't announce for '28. Are there not others who would still promote views that he held in common with them? What is the general effect of his craziness on the entire Republican party? Take him out of the equation and what is there? I doubt it would be a void. The party has a lot of work to do to recover, but there are planks to their platform (Plan 2025).
I could see a split in the Republican Party with nearly equal percentages wanting to bring back the party of 25-30 years ago and the other half (promoted by the super rich) want to do more by utilizing JD Vance. The Heritage Foundation didn't take them this far only to pack up and go home.
I do enjoy a good turn of the phrase and you did hit a sweet spot with your reply.
We have HOPE going forward and even if I don’t see real progress towards the America that could and should be I know it is coming. There is comfort in that knowledge.
Karla - Unfortunately we are probably stuck with him because he has to campaign in order to use other people’s money for his expenses to stay out of prison. What a shuckster!
I sure am not one of the fearful about Harris being president. I trusted Biden to lead and know good and well he had a credible successor in his VP pick. She is qualified and it becomes more evident as the days pass.
M J - Both have done very well for us. I just remember others using the excuse of not wanting to vote because it wouldn’t be a vote for Biden but for Harris. I think that it was rubbish then and now look at how she is doing. If you felt that I was implying that you were one by my comment then I apologize because that was not my intent.
Need to start by reigning in the Supreme Court who enabled all the dark money flooding our electoral system and it would help if we had a different election system then the 2 party, first past the poll, winner take all system. It literally denies almost 1/2 the country representation. Ranked choice voting would help a lot and would have prevented a few bad Republicans, who only won based on electoral college, which is outdated and no longer necessary, except to get republicans into the White House and that's it. Last 3 republicans elected President won electoral college but not the popular vote and we're paying dealy for that.
Yes Marlo his impact will never go away or go away quietly, but when he loses this election all gloves are off for his many state and federal indictments to which the remainder of his life will be court room appearances only and then and only then will his immunity protection go away and we can finally see justice served equally. Perhaps we will even see Justice served to the extreme MAGA congressmen and women as their idol will be gone and so their so called protection from justice unveiled. How? VOTE BLUE UP AND DOWN THE TICKET no matter where you live, because democracy and justice depend on your vote. We The People is the mantra.
Steve, I wish it wasn't so, but it is. The fight won't be over when he's gone. As the Hong Kong exile said, "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance". Sadly.
It sort of of reminds me of a unhappy German population in the 1930's and an equally disgusting loud mouth guy named Adolph that rose to the top of their political system, destroyed it and their country (and half the world) along the way. If one doesn't think some version of that can't happen here... then read the GOP 2024 plan.
It is necessary not to just talk about what is being done but also about what the trajectory leads to. What will be next if it is difficult to vote? What will follow banned books and poorly educated citizens? What follows saying that migrants are vile creatures that steal pets to eat them?
The time to speak about the next steps is when we see the road that leads to them. Now is the time to talk about the mass deportations and purges and camps that an authoritarian will give us. If the candidate dehumanizes and promises retribution and deportations we need to take it seriously and make clear how deadly dangerous this will be for everyone, even those on the same side as the authoritarian.
There is plenty of history for reference. Roundups, deportations and purges are not done with care. No one is safe. Is there a neighbor or co-worker who might turn you in? There will be no one to go to and appeal that a mistake was made. The danger is around the corner. Let’s describe it now that we see it.
I worry a lot about immigrants. (My husband is one but he's from the UK, which seems to be treated differently.) What are they thinking? They must be scared to death. What precautions are they taking? Do they realize what he's planning?
DK - They already said that it “will be bloody” but yet few of the “news” organizations are reporting it. How they forget about all of their crying when they tried to blame Biden’s rhetoric for trump getting grazed but the Republicans are the ones dog whistling about Legal Migrants being in Ohio.
My hope is that Our Capital Police will be ready with tazers, batons, mace and BULLHORNS on the NEXT January 6th! No more scenes from zombie movies with weirdos climbing up walls.
Why is nobody talking about the possibility of Mike Johnson throwing back the results for red states to their legislatures? There is no doubt in my mind that he would do so if asked, regardless of the popular vote.
And why is nobody talking about what our options are in case of that or another insurrection?
Kearyo, I get a red warning that the paywall is invalid when trying to sign up for just the free newsletter. The article is crazy scary, but getting more info and validation doesn’t look promising. Your thoughts?
If I am not mistaken, DumbDon disavowed any knowledge of Plan 2025. He claims he had positively nothing to do with it. Would he lie about something like that? Let me answer that. He lies about everything else so why would he all of a sudden come clean?
That was quite a lot of information in the Coffee Klatch today! From the debate all the way to getting in trouble because Professor Reich found humor in his height! For the record, Professor Reich, Fox News is an entertainment channel and is only suppose to entertain people per their Dominion lawsuit. I never pay any attention to what they have to say. I found your jokes funny! Now, for the debate, Kamala Harris kicked the old man's butt, period. Enough said. I truly believe if Kamala agrees to a debate on Fox, Mayor Pete needs to work with her extensively because he absolutely knows how to confuse and irritate those idiots on Fox. I understand what you are saying about "the establishment" backing Kamala when talking about Swift and other prominent celebrities. What I would like to say about that is think back to when you were in your 20s and 30s. Everything you did was so very important. These kids are beginning to get their feet wet in politics so to speak. They are suddenly finding their voice and Taylor Swift and these other celebrities are showing them how to use it. It is a huge force. These kids grew up with diversity, equality and inclusion so they are much, much closer to not considering a person's skin color to determine if they like them. As Martin Luther King extolled in his "I Have a Dream" speech, he looked forward to the day when his children would not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. He would be happy with our young people today. These young people are not falling for the orange man and his running mate's misogyny, intimidation, lying, bullying and threats. They are listening to a younger woman's voice and saying, "That's what we want." It isn't just celebrities. Look at the Tennessee Three and how they stood up and were heard. Look at the Central Park Five. Granted they are much older; however, they used their voice at the DNC and the young people listened. Moms are teaching their daughters about the 50+ years we had Roe V Wade and could decide our health care for ourselves. They then explain how the orange man and his running mate want to completely take that right away from them. I truly believe our younger generation are quietly but purposefully taking the reins and I feel very secure that our future is heading in the right direction. Vote Blue, America, up and down the ballot.
I feel that I must comment on one small segment of this article. Pete Buttigieg is someone we better hang on to. I suspect he is going to fit right in for whatever the Democrats need. This guy is so smooth that he tells all of those stone heads at Fox to go bark at the moon that they trip over each other trying to get to the door so they can get outside to start barking.
This charade with Laura Loomer - How is this old man with gastrointestinal issues having an affair? I suspect he is simply trying to project the manly image he pushes in his AI generated trading cards by demonstrating that a young woman could still want to be 'with' him. And what really annoys me is that his religious, self-righteous minions will not be turned off by his 'infidelity'.
Reprise. Is it coincidence that I have been sayin' that Trump has the mean woman blues. Loomer vs. MTG. Plus... the materialistic and dispassionate foreign wife.
It certainly looks like an affair, and making it so public seems to me to be another stunt to show young male voters that this doddering old fart (see what I did there?) can get a "hot chick" (gag) whenever he likes because he's such a macho man. Some will fall for it, but I suspect a lot will be going "Oh, yuck!"
Paul ; any smart woman knows that "all that glitters is not gold" Ok, so she may not be hot for him, but wants to bask in the reflected glow of power. tRUMP does not share, and any enjoyment she will have on the plane she will pay for, when he dumps her publicly ,unceremoniously, in the least respectful way ; just because he can, (and he will) and also manage to get her in some kind of legal trouble or scandal ; lay blame on her as he does most of his associates to make him look powerful, and better than she is. His reputation precedes him.
Laurie - what i meant by my obscure comment was that Marjorie Traitor green was green with jealously that Loomer was on the plane instead of her. marjorie obviously is not the sharpest bulb in the socket, so she desperately wants drumpf's approval, just lilke all the other maggots feasting on what will hopefully soon be the bloated carcass of drumpf's candidacy.
Some day he will not have anyone blind enough to use that way. He likes to pit his sycophants against each other. Keep everyone of them off balance : except the times he cruelly convinces them that they are really special: until he shows them just what he thinks , or does.'nt think : v of them.
Well put: but Marjorie is just another of his victims. Look at Mitt Romney, when he was featured dining with tfg, and was being tricked into thinking he had a chance to be on the ticket in 2020. He was humiliated by tRUMP . Publicly. That is his MO. Nobody is immune. Except maybe Putin or Kim Jong Un , because even delusional "Dreamboy Donnie," knows not to mess with actual killers.
Agreed, Laurie, but the problem is neither the framers of the Constitution, nor 200 years of rational legislatures could conceive of the fascist maga cult type of activities so we have no laws to cover stealing elections. We do have laws and codes of ethics against accepting or offering bribes. We have laws against fraud. But since good ol' boy Moscow Mitch stacked the Courts - including the Supreme Court against us we have nowhere to turn. Ben Franklin was correct "a Republic, if you can keep it" guess he was the only one with foresight.
Fay ; They may have known what a Demagogue was/is ; but could not see the internet culture of misinformation and the anonymity of being on a remote and fast 'information disinformation' machine . Everyone was in the same town, and would be confronted face to face in the 'old world' politics. May have been actually punched in the face or laughed out of town before being such a menace. I had a high school teacher who suggested that one 'reason' for the Electoral College was to keep Demagogues off the ballot. Many in the population did not go to school, and could be fooled. same 'justification' for delegates, who 'knew a thing or two.'
Thank you Laurie, good information. While I use the internet daily (and almost constantly) I do not use 'social media' so I'm not as aware of this disinformation as I should be.
The loss of the "fairness doctrine" or truth in advertising, did not help in more modern times, as well. Open bribery also corrupted things, at first disguising itself as philanthropy, until we have what is "perfectly legal" corruption. As in Citizens United, and now, the bastardization of tipping ; something very different than the modest gratuity one gives for a good shoeshine or haircut. now, a gratuity could be another way for the obscenely wealthy to cheat US even more, if they get away with passing that rip off.
While I don’t imagine MAGA Republicans will succeed with their misdeeds and manipulations, presuming Trump is losing, I expect plans are well underway to try and block Harris from receiving the requisite 270 electoral votes to win the presidency. The strategy, as I understand, entails enacting voter suppression tactics, expressly in battleground states, both at the front end (vote casting) and, as warranted, at the back end (vote tabulation). The objective, I understand, is to create a level of chaos that moves the election to the Supreme Court and, ultimately, in accordance with the Constitution, to the U.S. House, wherein Republicans control more state delegations, each getting one vote.
I would note, aside from perhaps as many as 100 election attorneys already working tirelessly for fair and secured elections, Democracy Docket Founder Marc Elias repeated has asserted that everyday people also need to join in the effort by remaining mindful of electoral machinations within their respective communities.
Miriam, Thanks for writing. While I imagine most of us principally are focused on getting out the vote, I very much am grateful to Elias who offers an antidote to just watching and waiting to see what our leaders will do to block MAGA’s efforts to seize or hold seats whether or not their candidates win more votes.
Barbara, I agree that the entire voting process is at risk from start to finish, esp. in deep red voting districts. It would be an education for ordinary voters to visit some of these in their local area and inquire about things like proof of citizenship, voter ID, and protection of the voting place by law enforcement, and to examine the guardrails of the voting process. Be mindful that trump right now is pushing his lackeys in Congress to forestall action to reach a budget deal until his more extreme wishes of voter obstruction are met. Voters, on Monday, should you live within a red district in your state, contact your Congressional rep.
and threaten them with the loss of your vote unless they vote to pass this budget bill now!
My plan is to contact the office of Brian Steil, rep. of my deep red district in Racine Co, WI
drumpf insists on having women provide proof of citizenship documented with their
maiden name, and to have naturalized citizens provide proof of citizenship in order to vote. He has reached the peak of desperation and is certifiable clinically.
This is curious. I lived in Michigan where I had show my driver's license to vote which does not indicate where I was born, and I imagine alternate identification cards proided by the state, also do not. So would Trump have the wokers checking ideas make a guess about status based on a person's appeance or accent?
No, Tina, not to have election workers guessing about a voter's status.
To my understanding, trump's proposed new rules would require presenting a birth certificate for many US born citizens, rather than just a driver's license or other documentation when they register to vote, or even at the voting booth. For naturalized citizens they may have to show their citizenship papers. Let me suggest that you contact your local voting precinct to have them provide for you their current rules, as well the prospects for tightening them.
It's been clear for quite a while now that MAGA Plan A is to disrupt the election via voter suppression and state-level skulduggery (see, for example, recent goings-on in Georgia), then use the court system, up to and including the obviously supportive SCOTUS, to "win." Plan B is to foment and incite broad-scale violence and take over by force. The plain-as-day racism and fascism at the bottom of the latest example -- the atrocity being perpetrated on Haitians and Springfield OH -- may win over a few voters, but that's not its intended purpose. It's far beyond the pale of pre-election campaigning. It's clearly an incitement of stochastic terrorism in the present and a call to arms on Nov 6 in the event of an electoral loss. It won't be the last such use of the tactic we see in the next few weeks.
Even as we work hard to bring about Dem wins up and down the ticket in November at all levels of government, we refuse to acknowledge and prepare for the above at our peril.
Whenever Trump feels the heat, he gets more bizarre and extreme. Trump lost it at the debate and got so involved in his pet rant, he could not recover and ended up admitting he had "concepts" for health plans that he has been promising for the last nine years.
When all else fails, we all learned from January 6 that inciting violence is Trump's last ditch effort. After this week's debate, I'm afraid Trump will pull the trigger on violence BEFORE he loses again - NOT after he loses again.
No one is talking about it yet, but there might be more swing states in a month than there are now. Contrary to popular opinion, those ballot initiatives regarding abortion, in red states like Kansas and Kentucky, demonstrated a different electorate in these states has more power than the one that usually votes.
For example, in my state of Kentucky, no party has a majority of registered voters. Just 2 years ago, Registered Republicans here, finally pulled ahead of registered Democrats by a measly couple thousand - but they are still a plurality - not a majority. I would not be surprised if red states like mine, flipped to Democrat on the presidential ticket this year. If I am correct, the candidates will hear it from pollsters and that could easily flip Trump out.
Trump will, as he has, continue to self destruct. He and his nominee for VP are spewing HATE and hoping that their cult members will follow their lead. They are getting closer and closer to the end of their reign.
Jan : As long as he is not in power. : let them. But they had better be peaceful. Kamala Harris knows the law. As President, she can wield power to see that Justice is earning their keep.
Trump will need a hoot full of stitches to close the wounds Kamala opened during the debate held by ABC. Trump knows he got his hind end beaten to a pulp and with the election being so close the last thing Donnie Boy wants is to have the voting public witness another "Battle of the Greasy Grass." The negative impression it would create in the minds of voters would most likely spell defeat for Mr. Trump. That man never wants to stand on a stage and discuss anything with Kamala ever again. He's a man who got his ass handed to him by a woman. His worst nightmare, for we all know how mush Trump respects the sanctity of womanhood, even in "Stormy" weather.
I voted "Other" because God only knows what he will do! Who is this Loomer person? Paying no mind to any MSM broadcasting at all, I only heard her name here the past couple of days. At this point, it is more like Who gives a flying crap what Trump does??? Maybe a shark hanging out around Mar-a-Lago will eat him for lunch, hamburger grease and all!
The immigrants steal and eat our pets myth was started by her. She accompanied Trump on the plane to the debate, and planted this idea in his mind. He, no doubt, regrets it now. That's how I remember it.
You guys are GREAT! I know a lot about Reich—I’m a Stanford Econ grad, but I know very little about Heather, aside from the coffee where she is very articulate, knowledgeable, and wise…
The magats are already taking over the election boards in smaller States so that choice was a no brainer. But the more desperate he gets the more he calls on his thugs to commit acts of violence.
I would like to hear you and Heather discuss the horrible, terrifying, acts they have unleashed on Springfield Ohio. There is not one single word of truth in the statement of JD Vance and trumpscum. The City Manager, the Chief of Police, and the Mayor have all denied any such travesty occurring. Springfield is a small (fewer than 59,000 population) and pretty peaceful city. The Haitians - who are all documented - came there at the invitation of the city government. There have been two separate bomb threats in two days this week following trumpscums outburst Tuesday night. We live in a Country that I scarcely recognize. I sincerely hope the FBI is there to investigate the perpetrator of those emails. That individual at least can be indicted, tried and tossed into State prison.
It is a terrible thing when people can make such abominable accusations with NO EVIDENCE and not face any punishment. If We achieve a trifecta in November I sincerely hope the Congressional Branch will pass a law that no public person can make unverified accusations that lead to threats or actions against a government agency or against person or persons..
I fully support the First Amendment 99% of the time; but when persons of such public status accuse people of stealing and eating pets, with no evidence, those persons need to be indicted, tried and, if convicted, fined in the millions of dollars and jailed whether they are running for elective office or not. I'd also be happy if some of those millions of dollars were sent to the City to repay the costs involved in shutting down government buildings and schools.
Replying to Trump's antics as if they were legitimate position is a mistake. His supporters mostly know he's full of $#!+. They act like they believe it to bate us. Kamala got that and didn't fact check. She just mocked the tsunami of lies and stated her position. Take a lesson from her. MAGA has been aroused to hate, and they say these thinks to provoke us. Not being provoked destroys t hem. It make Trump lose it.
Don't wast time analyzing their nonsense. It's a distraction from the real threat of the coup plot centered in disrupting the election. Pay attention to that, and prepare for it. It's what he meant when he said he had all the votes he needs. He was talking about Congress and/or the Supreme Court that will use this as an excuse to send it there, not about your vote.
The VP debate will be nothing but entertainment, but if Trump does win, expect Project 2025 to replace Trump with Vance using the 25th Amendment, Section 4. His mental decline is obvious also to them, but they have their useful idiot/Trojan horse to Vance's foot in the door.
Vance and his wife as well have trampled on their previous leftist beliefs replacing them to be a lackey to Trump. Goal? To be in position to take over as President via the 25th Amendment.
It’s too late to change VP. Trump would NEVER accept anyone who would outshine him. I believe that he would attempt to incite riots. Also, I question if he will last physical or emotionally to November 6. He’s a mess.
Trump's next move is to incite violence and his minions will suppress the vote. Trump will not go away quietly.
Once again his rhetoric is inciting violence. 2 schools had to shutdown in Springfield, Illinois because of bomb threats after Trump, Vance & Loomer falsely accused Haitian immigrants of eating cats & dogs. They should be held accountable.
Yeah... put them in jail for about 6 months on a diet of dog and cat food.
Cheers... GH
VERY appropriate.
Springfield, OHIO.
Terrible, regardless.
Marlo - Isn’t it horrible that the Republicans are once again resorting to such horrific tactics just to get voters to vote out of a fear based on something that Doesn’t Even Exist!? Moreno, Vance and his ilk are truly disgraceful, disgusting and desperate.
Oh, and by the way I Got My “like” button BACK!! Watch out everyone because I might just get a little crazy liking a whole bunch of posts!! New iPad with the updated system seemed to be my problem.
How can I get my "like" button back, Robert?
Cyrano - I apparently lost my “like” button when my iPad (a very old iPad) stopped updating passed 15.something. I can’t use my phone to read because my eyesight is for crap. I knew that there would come a time where I would have to get a new one because the only way for companies to make money is to make you get rid of a perfectly good device by refusing to update the system. For years I told my family that all I wanted for a present was gift cards so I could save them up to one day plunk down an outrageous amount of money for a device that I really didn’t need except for it to be updated/upgraded. Once I got this new one up and running I all of a sudden got my “like” abilities back.
G G has other really good ideas that have worked for them if you are on a computer or something else. G G has suggested to try switching browsers and other tidbits.
It is truly frustrating to lose your ability to like posts but I am beginning to believe that it is not a problem with just a certain substack. But I also am an idiot when it comes to technology so maybe I am completely wrong - but just know that you are not alone. ;)
Trump will never go away. Physically, yes. Spiritually, into a deep, dark hole of despair and hopelessness, because that is the way he lived. His legacy of turmoil, distrust, deception and divisiveness will live on, in fact has always been alive and ill, but will be coalesced in a segment of the population that has simmering beneath the surface, waiting for someone to lead them in their pursuit of unhappiness, and willing to follow anyone who delivers the proper siren song and is given the voice to do it.
Sadly, I agree, because Trump is a symptom of the failure of our system to benefit everyone. We have to tackle the monumental task of remaking this country into the nation it COULD be, if everyone really believed in its founding principles of freedom, liberty, and justice for all, which also means economic fairness for everyone. Not this dog-eat-dog, billionaires rule and the rest of us struggle bullshit we've got now.
As for Trump himself, I think his mental derailment will continue and increase to the point of mindless babbling while his handlers unsuccessfully try and rein him in, but his legacy of violence and hate will live on. That's why I say this is going to take all of us working together to do nothing less than change the entire trajectory of this country. Otherwise, we'll be looking at Trump 2.0 once the current monster is gone.
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I just had a sinking thought about the USA future after tfg loses the election. We Americans, not to exclude the rest of the world, have endured a decade of torture at this persons mouth and addled brain. The fatigue levels are building as we get closer to Election Day.
But I digress, tfg will declare his candidacy for president in 2028 the day of the inauguration. I am an old coot and a contemporary. It is hard to swallow the possibility that I might go to my grave without a days peace from that jerks mug on my nightly newscast.
Saints preserve us!
You made me laugh and cry at the same time. Of course he's going to waste time and millions of dollars whining and bitching that the election was stolen--again. MAYBE someone will be able to shut him down so we don't have to go on that pointless road trip.
Once he runs out of steam on that front, I'm sure he'll start campaigning for 2028. You're absolutely right; he can't step out of the spotlight. It's disheartening and infuriating. President Biden could cure cancer, President Harris could broker a lasting peace in the Middle East, and Trump could fart. What will the media spend its time covering?
I am as sick of his big mouth and his incessant presence as you are. As President Obama said, he has not stopped whining and complaining about his problems since he came down his golden escalator nine years ago.
He's in every news feed, on every front page, on every website. Unfortunately, he will probably live to be 100. Fortunately, his brain hasn't got that long to go, and maybe when he's medicated in a room somewhere he will finally STFU.
Karla and all: I wonder what would happen if, for whatever reason, Mr. Trump did stop campaigning, either now or he didn't announce for '28. Are there not others who would still promote views that he held in common with them? What is the general effect of his craziness on the entire Republican party? Take him out of the equation and what is there? I doubt it would be a void. The party has a lot of work to do to recover, but there are planks to their platform (Plan 2025).
I could see a split in the Republican Party with nearly equal percentages wanting to bring back the party of 25-30 years ago and the other half (promoted by the super rich) want to do more by utilizing JD Vance. The Heritage Foundation didn't take them this far only to pack up and go home.
Roxanne - You are correct - they will just change the date on their Project 2025 for the next deplorable person.
I do enjoy a good turn of the phrase and you did hit a sweet spot with your reply.
We have HOPE going forward and even if I don’t see real progress towards the America that could and should be I know it is coming. There is comfort in that knowledge.
Karla - Unfortunately we are probably stuck with him because he has to campaign in order to use other people’s money for his expenses to stay out of prison. What a shuckster!
I don’t think Trump will be alive for the next election.
Marlo - Fingers Crossed!
M J - Funny how people feared that Harris would become president if something happened to Biden but I think that the biggest fear is Vance.
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I sure am not one of the fearful about Harris being president. I trusted Biden to lead and know good and well he had a credible successor in his VP pick. She is qualified and it becomes more evident as the days pass.
M J - Both have done very well for us. I just remember others using the excuse of not wanting to vote because it wouldn’t be a vote for Biden but for Harris. I think that it was rubbish then and now look at how she is doing. If you felt that I was implying that you were one by my comment then I apologize because that was not my intent.
Need to start by reigning in the Supreme Court who enabled all the dark money flooding our electoral system and it would help if we had a different election system then the 2 party, first past the poll, winner take all system. It literally denies almost 1/2 the country representation. Ranked choice voting would help a lot and would have prevented a few bad Republicans, who only won based on electoral college, which is outdated and no longer necessary, except to get republicans into the White House and that's it. Last 3 republicans elected President won electoral college but not the popular vote and we're paying dealy for that.
Yes Marlo his impact will never go away or go away quietly, but when he loses this election all gloves are off for his many state and federal indictments to which the remainder of his life will be court room appearances only and then and only then will his immunity protection go away and we can finally see justice served equally. Perhaps we will even see Justice served to the extreme MAGA congressmen and women as their idol will be gone and so their so called protection from justice unveiled. How? VOTE BLUE UP AND DOWN THE TICKET no matter where you live, because democracy and justice depend on your vote. We The People is the mantra.
I can't wait for all those trials to begin.
Hello Paula... You are Assuming that DJT stays in this Country to 'Face-The-Music', and doesn't Flee to some Totalitarian Country...
DJT needs to wear a tether! He should be under surveillance now. He is a convicted felon awaiting multiple trials.
The day after the election they should take his passport.
Steve, I wish it wasn't so, but it is. The fight won't be over when he's gone. As the Hong Kong exile said, "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance". Sadly.
It sort of of reminds me of a unhappy German population in the 1930's and an equally disgusting loud mouth guy named Adolph that rose to the top of their political system, destroyed it and their country (and half the world) along the way. If one doesn't think some version of that can't happen here... then read the GOP 2024 plan.
Vote Blue. Cheers... GH
Into a bunker??
It is necessary not to just talk about what is being done but also about what the trajectory leads to. What will be next if it is difficult to vote? What will follow banned books and poorly educated citizens? What follows saying that migrants are vile creatures that steal pets to eat them?
The time to speak about the next steps is when we see the road that leads to them. Now is the time to talk about the mass deportations and purges and camps that an authoritarian will give us. If the candidate dehumanizes and promises retribution and deportations we need to take it seriously and make clear how deadly dangerous this will be for everyone, even those on the same side as the authoritarian.
There is plenty of history for reference. Roundups, deportations and purges are not done with care. No one is safe. Is there a neighbor or co-worker who might turn you in? There will be no one to go to and appeal that a mistake was made. The danger is around the corner. Let’s describe it now that we see it.
I worry a lot about immigrants. (My husband is one but he's from the UK, which seems to be treated differently.) What are they thinking? They must be scared to death. What precautions are they taking? Do they realize what he's planning?
DK - They already said that it “will be bloody” but yet few of the “news” organizations are reporting it. How they forget about all of their crying when they tried to blame Biden’s rhetoric for trump getting grazed but the Republicans are the ones dog whistling about Legal Migrants being in Ohio.
My fear too.
My hope is that Our Capital Police will be ready with tazers, batons, mace and BULLHORNS on the NEXT January 6th! No more scenes from zombie movies with weirdos climbing up walls.
Agree.
Why is nobody talking about the possibility of Mike Johnson throwing back the results for red states to their legislatures? There is no doubt in my mind that he would do so if asked, regardless of the popular vote.
And why is nobody talking about what our options are in case of that or another insurrection?
afraid so.
Essentially it’s not a vote for Trump for president. It is a vote for JD for president. Let that sink in.
YES; Here is a terrifying article. He will begin implementing Project 2025 for 4 years and then have 8 as Pres!!! https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas?fbclid=IwY2xjawFREsNleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHfyt2RoTMDffyWNXFOQp-M5JtTlcU210XqpCE5YixlOa2iBEUWj6PF5NTw_aem_IhRQ80KN6ixhMSxW9QB3Kg
Kearyo, I get a red warning that the paywall is invalid when trying to sign up for just the free newsletter. The article is crazy scary, but getting more info and validation doesn’t look promising. Your thoughts?
If I am not mistaken, DumbDon disavowed any knowledge of Plan 2025. He claims he had positively nothing to do with it. Would he lie about something like that? Let me answer that. He lies about everything else so why would he all of a sudden come clean?
I already have thought about that senario. Nothing could be worse except the fact that Trump will be there first.
Really. Well said!
*JP
(As in JP Mandel.)
That was quite a lot of information in the Coffee Klatch today! From the debate all the way to getting in trouble because Professor Reich found humor in his height! For the record, Professor Reich, Fox News is an entertainment channel and is only suppose to entertain people per their Dominion lawsuit. I never pay any attention to what they have to say. I found your jokes funny! Now, for the debate, Kamala Harris kicked the old man's butt, period. Enough said. I truly believe if Kamala agrees to a debate on Fox, Mayor Pete needs to work with her extensively because he absolutely knows how to confuse and irritate those idiots on Fox. I understand what you are saying about "the establishment" backing Kamala when talking about Swift and other prominent celebrities. What I would like to say about that is think back to when you were in your 20s and 30s. Everything you did was so very important. These kids are beginning to get their feet wet in politics so to speak. They are suddenly finding their voice and Taylor Swift and these other celebrities are showing them how to use it. It is a huge force. These kids grew up with diversity, equality and inclusion so they are much, much closer to not considering a person's skin color to determine if they like them. As Martin Luther King extolled in his "I Have a Dream" speech, he looked forward to the day when his children would not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. He would be happy with our young people today. These young people are not falling for the orange man and his running mate's misogyny, intimidation, lying, bullying and threats. They are listening to a younger woman's voice and saying, "That's what we want." It isn't just celebrities. Look at the Tennessee Three and how they stood up and were heard. Look at the Central Park Five. Granted they are much older; however, they used their voice at the DNC and the young people listened. Moms are teaching their daughters about the 50+ years we had Roe V Wade and could decide our health care for ourselves. They then explain how the orange man and his running mate want to completely take that right away from them. I truly believe our younger generation are quietly but purposefully taking the reins and I feel very secure that our future is heading in the right direction. Vote Blue, America, up and down the ballot.
Peggy, you are spot on! Thank you.
Thanks, Fay!
I feel that I must comment on one small segment of this article. Pete Buttigieg is someone we better hang on to. I suspect he is going to fit right in for whatever the Democrats need. This guy is so smooth that he tells all of those stone heads at Fox to go bark at the moon that they trip over each other trying to get to the door so they can get outside to start barking.
Hahahahahaha, Russ! Excellent description of Mayor Pete! I love his style!
All of the above and possibly a call to arms
Actually,it wouldn't be Nikki Haley,but Laura Loomer,who is so batshit crazy even MTG spoke out against her!
Hard to believe MTG finds Loomer too extreme. Isn't she just jealous that Loomer is the (rotten, putrid) apple of Trump's eye?
Yeah, I think it's all about the attention.
This charade with Laura Loomer - How is this old man with gastrointestinal issues having an affair? I suspect he is simply trying to project the manly image he pushes in his AI generated trading cards by demonstrating that a young woman could still want to be 'with' him. And what really annoys me is that his religious, self-righteous minions will not be turned off by his 'infidelity'.
I bet Melania will not be in the WH even if TFG wins
Oh no - I am absolutely sure you are right on this, Marsha.
Reprise. Is it coincidence that I have been sayin' that Trump has the mean woman blues. Loomer vs. MTG. Plus... the materialistic and dispassionate foreign wife.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kWZZ71yzas
What a voice - and they all seemed to be having so much fun!
Daniel Solomon ; Thank you for this. :) Better'n Elvis!
I agree.
It certainly looks like an affair, and making it so public seems to me to be another stunt to show young male voters that this doddering old fart (see what I did there?) can get a "hot chick" (gag) whenever he likes because he's such a macho man. Some will fall for it, but I suspect a lot will be going "Oh, yuck!"
That's a recipe for losing though. Surely even he can see that.
Naw she was just jealous that another woman was in his.....plane.
spoken like a clueless man. That plane, like his other things, is goin down.
Laurie - forgive me, but clue me in?
Paul ; any smart woman knows that "all that glitters is not gold" Ok, so she may not be hot for him, but wants to bask in the reflected glow of power. tRUMP does not share, and any enjoyment she will have on the plane she will pay for, when he dumps her publicly ,unceremoniously, in the least respectful way ; just because he can, (and he will) and also manage to get her in some kind of legal trouble or scandal ; lay blame on her as he does most of his associates to make him look powerful, and better than she is. His reputation precedes him.
Laurie - what i meant by my obscure comment was that Marjorie Traitor green was green with jealously that Loomer was on the plane instead of her. marjorie obviously is not the sharpest bulb in the socket, so she desperately wants drumpf's approval, just lilke all the other maggots feasting on what will hopefully soon be the bloated carcass of drumpf's candidacy.
Some day he will not have anyone blind enough to use that way. He likes to pit his sycophants against each other. Keep everyone of them off balance : except the times he cruelly convinces them that they are really special: until he shows them just what he thinks , or does.'nt think : v of them.
Well put: but Marjorie is just another of his victims. Look at Mitt Romney, when he was featured dining with tfg, and was being tricked into thinking he had a chance to be on the ticket in 2020. He was humiliated by tRUMP . Publicly. That is his MO. Nobody is immune. Except maybe Putin or Kim Jong Un , because even delusional "Dreamboy Donnie," knows not to mess with actual killers.
Laurie - Isn’t it sad that most of us have seen the way he operates and treats people but yet there are still some useful idiots that flock to him?
Like moths to a flame.
I do not have a clue how easily county election boards can be universally be taken over, but that seems the most likely of the options presented. ##
They are certainly trying and it needs more coverage.
Agreed, I read that it is already happening
It should be stopped.
Agreed, Laurie, but the problem is neither the framers of the Constitution, nor 200 years of rational legislatures could conceive of the fascist maga cult type of activities so we have no laws to cover stealing elections. We do have laws and codes of ethics against accepting or offering bribes. We have laws against fraud. But since good ol' boy Moscow Mitch stacked the Courts - including the Supreme Court against us we have nowhere to turn. Ben Franklin was correct "a Republic, if you can keep it" guess he was the only one with foresight.
Fay ; They may have known what a Demagogue was/is ; but could not see the internet culture of misinformation and the anonymity of being on a remote and fast 'information disinformation' machine . Everyone was in the same town, and would be confronted face to face in the 'old world' politics. May have been actually punched in the face or laughed out of town before being such a menace. I had a high school teacher who suggested that one 'reason' for the Electoral College was to keep Demagogues off the ballot. Many in the population did not go to school, and could be fooled. same 'justification' for delegates, who 'knew a thing or two.'
Thank you Laurie, good information. While I use the internet daily (and almost constantly) I do not use 'social media' so I'm not as aware of this disinformation as I should be.
The loss of the "fairness doctrine" or truth in advertising, did not help in more modern times, as well. Open bribery also corrupted things, at first disguising itself as philanthropy, until we have what is "perfectly legal" corruption. As in Citizens United, and now, the bastardization of tipping ; something very different than the modest gratuity one gives for a good shoeshine or haircut. now, a gratuity could be another way for the obscenely wealthy to cheat US even more, if they get away with passing that rip off.
While I don’t imagine MAGA Republicans will succeed with their misdeeds and manipulations, presuming Trump is losing, I expect plans are well underway to try and block Harris from receiving the requisite 270 electoral votes to win the presidency. The strategy, as I understand, entails enacting voter suppression tactics, expressly in battleground states, both at the front end (vote casting) and, as warranted, at the back end (vote tabulation). The objective, I understand, is to create a level of chaos that moves the election to the Supreme Court and, ultimately, in accordance with the Constitution, to the U.S. House, wherein Republicans control more state delegations, each getting one vote.
I would note, aside from perhaps as many as 100 election attorneys already working tirelessly for fair and secured elections, Democracy Docket Founder Marc Elias repeated has asserted that everyday people also need to join in the effort by remaining mindful of electoral machinations within their respective communities.
Wise.
Miriam, Thanks for writing. While I imagine most of us principally are focused on getting out the vote, I very much am grateful to Elias who offers an antidote to just watching and waiting to see what our leaders will do to block MAGA’s efforts to seize or hold seats whether or not their candidates win more votes.
Barbara, I agree that the entire voting process is at risk from start to finish, esp. in deep red voting districts. It would be an education for ordinary voters to visit some of these in their local area and inquire about things like proof of citizenship, voter ID, and protection of the voting place by law enforcement, and to examine the guardrails of the voting process. Be mindful that trump right now is pushing his lackeys in Congress to forestall action to reach a budget deal until his more extreme wishes of voter obstruction are met. Voters, on Monday, should you live within a red district in your state, contact your Congressional rep.
and threaten them with the loss of your vote unless they vote to pass this budget bill now!
My plan is to contact the office of Brian Steil, rep. of my deep red district in Racine Co, WI
and let him have it.
Which is why it's good practice to not require proof of identity, which is the case in New York.
drumpf insists on having women provide proof of citizenship documented with their
maiden name, and to have naturalized citizens provide proof of citizenship in order to vote. He has reached the peak of desperation and is certifiable clinically.
This is curious. I lived in Michigan where I had show my driver's license to vote which does not indicate where I was born, and I imagine alternate identification cards proided by the state, also do not. So would Trump have the wokers checking ideas make a guess about status based on a person's appeance or accent?
No, Tina, not to have election workers guessing about a voter's status.
To my understanding, trump's proposed new rules would require presenting a birth certificate for many US born citizens, rather than just a driver's license or other documentation when they register to vote, or even at the voting booth. For naturalized citizens they may have to show their citizenship papers. Let me suggest that you contact your local voting precinct to have them provide for you their current rules, as well the prospects for tightening them.
I follow Marl Elias with my beloved one-way-friend Brian Tyler Cohen! BRILLIANT, SUCCESSFUL American Hero!!!
Me too! Best source of real information I have found.
It's been clear for quite a while now that MAGA Plan A is to disrupt the election via voter suppression and state-level skulduggery (see, for example, recent goings-on in Georgia), then use the court system, up to and including the obviously supportive SCOTUS, to "win." Plan B is to foment and incite broad-scale violence and take over by force. The plain-as-day racism and fascism at the bottom of the latest example -- the atrocity being perpetrated on Haitians and Springfield OH -- may win over a few voters, but that's not its intended purpose. It's far beyond the pale of pre-election campaigning. It's clearly an incitement of stochastic terrorism in the present and a call to arms on Nov 6 in the event of an electoral loss. It won't be the last such use of the tactic we see in the next few weeks.
Even as we work hard to bring about Dem wins up and down the ticket in November at all levels of government, we refuse to acknowledge and prepare for the above at our peril.
Exactly right, pts.
Whenever Trump feels the heat, he gets more bizarre and extreme. Trump lost it at the debate and got so involved in his pet rant, he could not recover and ended up admitting he had "concepts" for health plans that he has been promising for the last nine years.
When all else fails, we all learned from January 6 that inciting violence is Trump's last ditch effort. After this week's debate, I'm afraid Trump will pull the trigger on violence BEFORE he loses again - NOT after he loses again.
No one is talking about it yet, but there might be more swing states in a month than there are now. Contrary to popular opinion, those ballot initiatives regarding abortion, in red states like Kansas and Kentucky, demonstrated a different electorate in these states has more power than the one that usually votes.
For example, in my state of Kentucky, no party has a majority of registered voters. Just 2 years ago, Registered Republicans here, finally pulled ahead of registered Democrats by a measly couple thousand - but they are still a plurality - not a majority. I would not be surprised if red states like mine, flipped to Democrat on the presidential ticket this year. If I am correct, the candidates will hear it from pollsters and that could easily flip Trump out.
So do I fervently pray. I think people are talking in the check out lines at the grocery store...the Home Depot, weekdays in the church parking lot.
Trump will, as he has, continue to self destruct. He and his nominee for VP are spewing HATE and hoping that their cult members will follow their lead. They are getting closer and closer to the end of their reign.
I hope you are correct but am afraid the cult will continue to follow them.
Jan, or the next one that pops up out of the slime!
True. Project 2025.
Jan : As long as he is not in power. : let them. But they had better be peaceful. Kamala Harris knows the law. As President, she can wield power to see that Justice is earning their keep.
Keith ; Lets hope!.
Trump will need a hoot full of stitches to close the wounds Kamala opened during the debate held by ABC. Trump knows he got his hind end beaten to a pulp and with the election being so close the last thing Donnie Boy wants is to have the voting public witness another "Battle of the Greasy Grass." The negative impression it would create in the minds of voters would most likely spell defeat for Mr. Trump. That man never wants to stand on a stage and discuss anything with Kamala ever again. He's a man who got his ass handed to him by a woman. His worst nightmare, for we all know how mush Trump respects the sanctity of womanhood, even in "Stormy" weather.
maybe he has stitches in his ear he can use
I voted "Other" because God only knows what he will do! Who is this Loomer person? Paying no mind to any MSM broadcasting at all, I only heard her name here the past couple of days. At this point, it is more like Who gives a flying crap what Trump does??? Maybe a shark hanging out around Mar-a-Lago will eat him for lunch, hamburger grease and all!
Conversely, maybe someone's pets will eat him!
That would be fitting! Eat Vance too!
Or, just possibly, he will be standing too close to a windmill and it will catch him by the seat of his pants and toss him a long, long way.
Too funny!
The immigrants steal and eat our pets myth was started by her. She accompanied Trump on the plane to the debate, and planted this idea in his mind. He, no doubt, regrets it now. That's how I remember it.
Thank you.
All of the above, and more!
Thank you for another great SCK❣️
SCK?
Saturday Coffee Klatch 😊
I should have realized that! Thank you
You guys are GREAT! I know a lot about Reich—I’m a Stanford Econ grad, but I know very little about Heather, aside from the coffee where she is very articulate, knowledgeable, and wise…
Philosophy major.
The magats are already taking over the election boards in smaller States so that choice was a no brainer. But the more desperate he gets the more he calls on his thugs to commit acts of violence.
I would like to hear you and Heather discuss the horrible, terrifying, acts they have unleashed on Springfield Ohio. There is not one single word of truth in the statement of JD Vance and trumpscum. The City Manager, the Chief of Police, and the Mayor have all denied any such travesty occurring. Springfield is a small (fewer than 59,000 population) and pretty peaceful city. The Haitians - who are all documented - came there at the invitation of the city government. There have been two separate bomb threats in two days this week following trumpscums outburst Tuesday night. We live in a Country that I scarcely recognize. I sincerely hope the FBI is there to investigate the perpetrator of those emails. That individual at least can be indicted, tried and tossed into State prison.
It is a terrible thing when people can make such abominable accusations with NO EVIDENCE and not face any punishment. If We achieve a trifecta in November I sincerely hope the Congressional Branch will pass a law that no public person can make unverified accusations that lead to threats or actions against a government agency or against person or persons..
I fully support the First Amendment 99% of the time; but when persons of such public status accuse people of stealing and eating pets, with no evidence, those persons need to be indicted, tried and, if convicted, fined in the millions of dollars and jailed whether they are running for elective office or not. I'd also be happy if some of those millions of dollars were sent to the City to repay the costs involved in shutting down government buildings and schools.
Replying to Trump's antics as if they were legitimate position is a mistake. His supporters mostly know he's full of $#!+. They act like they believe it to bate us. Kamala got that and didn't fact check. She just mocked the tsunami of lies and stated her position. Take a lesson from her. MAGA has been aroused to hate, and they say these thinks to provoke us. Not being provoked destroys t hem. It make Trump lose it.
Don't wast time analyzing their nonsense. It's a distraction from the real threat of the coup plot centered in disrupting the election. Pay attention to that, and prepare for it. It's what he meant when he said he had all the votes he needs. He was talking about Congress and/or the Supreme Court that will use this as an excuse to send it there, not about your vote.
The VP debate will be nothing but entertainment, but if Trump does win, expect Project 2025 to replace Trump with Vance using the 25th Amendment, Section 4. His mental decline is obvious also to them, but they have their useful idiot/Trojan horse to Vance's foot in the door.
Vance and his wife as well have trampled on their previous leftist beliefs replacing them to be a lackey to Trump. Goal? To be in position to take over as President via the 25th Amendment.
Don't try to understand them, just whip and rope and brand them. GOTV!
It’s too late to change VP. Trump would NEVER accept anyone who would outshine him. I believe that he would attempt to incite riots. Also, I question if he will last physical or emotionally to November 6. He’s a mess.