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Mar 17Liked by Robert Reich

For an outsider like me it’s difficult to understand that so many Americans still supports this individual. A denial of reality that is really scary.

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Because it’s a cult, sir.

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Indeed it is a cult. One created to destroy rule of law democracies in both Britain (Brexit) and the US (MAGA) by a criminal network of the morbidly wealthy, their global corporations and colluding hostile states and their bought compliant legacy media. Trump is merely their current Celebrity Preacher.

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Monnina, you're right. Trump is only the puppet. The richy rich, corporations, far-right media, and putin are the ones working the strings on the little orange man. They are the ones I would like to see brought down.

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#MeToo

Depraved bastards that they are 🐈‍⬛

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Hahahahaha!! I like that! Depraved bastards! That one is going on my list!!

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Remeber just 9 years past when Hilary got all sorts of grief for calling these MAGAt Depraved Bastards, "Deplorable?" Even then I said she was too timid with these Repugnant Party Despicables.

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INCELs

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On behalf of us decent bastards, I protest.

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It truly amazes me how the fuck this country has survived its politicians for almost two hundred fifty years,wars,natural disasters piece of cake 🍰 the politicians are and always have been the most destructive things in our history! Think about it!

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I think you are right and they are playing with fire. He's crazier than they probably thought. They wanted money and power and they might get war and all the wrong kind of allies instead.

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Agreed, Peggy. Still, it's easier and more convenient for small minds to focus on the dancing puppet then on the purely evil machine controlling it.

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Yes, Ilene, I liken them to shaking a shiny object to get a dog's attention!! The machine is what needs to be decommissioned!!

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I agree,but the dungeon would be a fitting place for this traitor.

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A puppet? A puppet has no agency of its own. He cooperates fully with the string-yankers.

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Maybe "shadow puppet" would be more accurate? He THINKS he's in control while he's cooperating, but he's too stupid to see how he's shooting himself in both feet.

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Gepetto!

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Just like Clarence Thomas.

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We MUST bring them down. But HOW?

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Vote Blue, Michealene, vote blue!!!

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That keeps Trump out of office and then what? More centrist democrats to maintain the status quo? Can I get a real f***ing PROGRESSIVE choice??

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and be well prepared for ridiculous charges and challenges of the vote count in each and every swing state; intimidation during voting and possibly armed "civil unrest" immediately afterwards.

We cannot be afraid of this--we must stand firm and unyielding to strong arm tactics.

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So true. People steel yourselves!

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VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!

I’ve been voting blue no matter who for 55 years and will continue voting blue no matter who. Never have I met a Republicon that didn’t speak out of both sides of their mouths. They speak with a forked tongues, they are snakes.

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The most useful of useless idiots?

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Don’t Forget about the Bought SCOTUS…!

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As a woman and a "person", one could not possibly forget!

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A good description of how the right wing billionaires took over the court system and started to destroy our government is the book The Scheme by Senator Sheldon Whitehouse.

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Thank you for the reference.

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They will ultimately give him the election. Once in office, the republicans controlled state legislatures will gleefully overturn Amendement 22 (they'll have the votes) and we will have Putin, I mean Trump, in office until his Big Mac kills him. This is how it's going to go down. This is how an authoritarian takes over a democracy. Constitution? A little wite-out here, some scratched out words there, much better.

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You need 2/3 of both the House and the Senate in order to send a proposed amendment to the states. You need 3/4 of the States (38) to ratify that proposed amendment. Ain't gonna happen .

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That’s what they said about Trump getting elected.

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Brexit was an exercise of self harm not about sovereignty but to become 51st of the USA!

Idiots exist everywhere and morans follow!

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great way of saying it: Trump is their current Preacher. great!

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And the Supremes…

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It doesn't matter if it is a cult or not, people have to get their act together, and start doing their homework. The problem is there has been ZERO accountability, not just for TRUMP but for many leaders in our country. The Supreme court should be held accountable as well, starting with Citizens United. Corporations are people, incubated eggs are people, guns are people...just SICK to death of these weasels that are truly destroying America.

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In the 1980s, corporations stopped being “good business citizens” and went all-in at being only for their own bottom line, cross-border entities with ZERO allegiance to anything but themselves. The Oligarchs now DO want control here, but not even because they want to run this country. I think it’s because they want to run THE WORLD, and this is just one more piece of it.

Why do we think Donnie loves every Oligarch he meets? Why did Orban show up here? Why does Putin want Donnie in office again? Now, I’m totally paranoid about the worldwide threat of Oligarch rule. The human race would be lucky to survive another hundred years.

Too negative?

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Not too negative, the world is at stake, and we need allies.

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Totally agree with you.

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No Pat,

You are too human and an intelligent one at that. If we aren’t honest about these facts we will sink.

Keep talking…. 💕🤗

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Ah, we must get through to people this year …. I believe in people’s right to object and express their misgivings, but in the end, we must not let any Republican take the White House, and we must try to get more serious people into Congress.

The Heritage Foundation, and the Faux-Freedom Caucus, and the Manafort-Bannon-Stone-Kellyanne consortium will take us down the Oligarch Trail just as sure as Donnie is Orange.

VOTE BLUE.

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Since 2008 corporations have given much more money to democratic candidates than they have to Republican candidates. That's a fact. Spin it however you want.

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Interesting thought Bill— e can I look that up?

AND, giving to candidates directly does not come close to measuring how money influences legislation and public policy. 502(c)4s, for instance, aren’t even allowed direct advocacy or coordination with candidates.. But they are allowed to keep their donors secret!

And PACs put money into lobbying; and other activities, which is not the same, either.

To say nothing of ALEC and Think Tanks and TV shows and even pundits at news outlets, etc. — all corporate activity.

So, you may be doing some of your own spin, Bill.

But I’d still like to get a look at where you got that info…

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Why is it that if I yelled “fire“ in a child daycare center, I would be immediately arrested. But Trump can say something like this and get away with it? What the hell is wrong with Garland? Why are we paying him? Why did Biden appoint him? He’s a limp noodle in a wildcat fight.

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Perfectly stated. I totally agree.

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Here hear. Absolutely telling is this monopoly of overly and dangerously greedy puppet masters picking sorry sacks to do their bidding. My oh my are we sad. Thank you Michealene.

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Everything is people except females.

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If it weren't so true, I would be laughing. WTF is wrong with these people.

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They hate the same people he hates. He even hates his

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Pushed wrong button. Grrr

He even hates his “cult/supporters), but he loves donations; he also admitted he loves stupid people, which, except for his millionaire/billionaire donors, is what his cult is. They haven’t figured out that he hates them right along with the rest of us. Personally, I think he has neurosyphilis. He did say on the Howard Stern show years ago that not catching STDs was his Viet Nam. Maybe he lost that war. He should be in a prison for the mentally criminally insane, his dementia is showing, he can even speak, it’s more like babbling. Republicans have screwed up their own party to the max.

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If I were a movie producer casting for the part of an orange Antichrist, I'd pick Donald J. Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovCf9VRLnDY

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The He Touches It Dies . . who Stacked A Covid Coffin High Rise . .Worthy of The Damien Franchise! . . .#Sick Clown variant . ..

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Springtime for Hitler and Germany, winter for Poland and France.

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And death for 3,000,000 Gazans!

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Heartbreaking and monstrous

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Americans who support the murder of 3,000,000 persons are also a cult- ruled by the group of criminals called AIPAC.

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Mar 17·edited Mar 17

That's unfair and ignorant.

Three million is the entire population, so while the suffering is widespread and horrific, this isn't accurate.

My objection is to the black and white nature of the comment, but the sentiment and outrage is also widespread

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itnorant????

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Typing left handed after shoulder surgery without eboufg coffee. See?

If you're going to fall, let go of the trash can . If you have time.

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Please stay on topic.

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I'm sick of hearing that this is a cult. What cult has ever duped half the American population? This notion of cult is convenient for Corporate Democrats so as to avoid their responsibility in pissing off 50% of us. I'm a Progressive, but I get it.

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Dan makes a good point.

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Greed, fear and stupidity are the reasons people support Trump. The very wealthy want to hold onto their millions and billions; people are afraid he’ll ruin their political careers or afraid for his goonies threatening them & their families or they are uninformed by either watching fake news (Fox News, Hannity, Tucker Carlson) or don’t watch or read anything.

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I understand the fear but he has threatened democrats far more than republicans. I mean, look what one of his goons did to Paul Pelosi. Yet democrats are standing up to him and not backing down. Republicans have no spine. They don’t deserve to be in office. Vote blue.

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Yes!!

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That is the absolute truth.

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Actually I disagree. Democrats are horrible on messaging and they DO NOT stand up as a unified force. For example, when some of our large cities, wanted to have sanctuaries for those coming over the border illegally, that was WRONG. We can't say, that TEXAS cannot protect themselves from the onslaught when these cities sit far away from the chaos. However my point is DEMOCRATS have been very weak and splintered on many issues. They do not stand up, they did not stand up when we had a Supreme Court opening, it's just per BS. And women suffer the consequences. Maybe they should ALL be removed from office. Every last one of them.

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It’s because we have a big tent, with lots of issues we are passionate about. We care about everyone, and sometimes we get things wrong. The thing about democrats is we keep trying. We don’t throw up our hands and say, well that didn’t work so let’s give up. The GOP just wants to inflict as much pain as possible.

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Completely disagree. Have you read Simon Rosenbergs substacks? Did you hear Bidens SOTU speech? Here is the message. Democrats make good things happen. Like the biggest and fastest financial recovery in the world. Like a huge infrastructure package that is rebuilding the country, bringing broadband to under-served areas. Like forgiving student loans using every possible tool available. Like helping America develop a computer chip industry to offset the uncertainties of Taiwan.

Message number 2: Republicans have eliminated reproductive rights for women. And now they are going after contraception! This issue, in itself, will propel a Blue Wave in November. And then...add in the MAGA attacks on Medicare and Social Security. Talk about campaign gifts!

Watch the ads developing from the Democratic Committee and the White House. Donald Trump is a master of deceit, crimes of sexual abuse and fraud. Joe Biden brings integrity and compassion for ALL Americans.

The bogus impeachment of Biden based on a phony fink has collapsed. The House of Representatives is a pathetic jumble of jerks. Hunter Biden made mince meat of the Gym Jordan committee of clowns.

The beauty of the Democratic Party is our diversity and differing opinions. But when push comes to shove, we are all in this together. I understand how you might feel envious of the GOP "unity". But that is just a mask hiding the terror Trump induces. I'd rather be a member of a family that argues than part of one that kills and eats its own.

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I can't agree with you more about what the Democrats care about AND look at the NYT today. "Trump Allies are winning war over disinformation..." People believe this crap.

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Justice Ginsburg should have resigned when she got the cancer diagnosis and Democrats had majorities in Congress. Don't blame the whole party for the failings of some of its members.

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I cannot disagree with you at all. And...here we are.

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I'll take the Big-Tent diversity of the sometimes uncoordinated but independently thinking Dems over the lock-step (goose step) robotic uniformity of the Republicans and their tightly controlled, pre-approved messaging...literally, down to the exact wording and phrases they've been instructed to repeat ad nauseum.

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You neglected so add Vote Blue.

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I've been thinking a lot about Dumpy's "threats" - I've never understood how mean tweets could scare people so badly. But once Dumpy built up such a radical, feverish base, not supporting Dumpy became a threat to people's political careers. I think that Democrats in general don't think that losing a political race isn't a calamity, and are mature enough that they're not threatened by nasty people or names. That's not to say that there aren't genuine threats towards Dems, like the guy that attacked Paul Pelosi or the pipe bombs sent to various Dem leaders several years ago. But in general, Democrats don't feel threatened by silly nicknames.

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Yes but we are not voting for him. (These are reasons people are voting for Donald Quack).

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Any more cultists wanna chime in with David?

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I do, but not to David, I wont give him the time. It's the way "THEY" are so vile in their approach that gives people the "freedom" to go out and hurt someone like Paul Pelosi. He continued to call her a crazed lunatic. WTF. David, you need to get a clue.

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I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was attempting to be witty by being wildly sarcastic by repeating outrageous conspiracy theories.

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@Laxe. 2 active wars, children dying by the thousands, GOP Representatives blocking aid, Putin threatening to use nukes. And you figure the big news is....

What?

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And the green m&m’s have canceled St. Patrick’s Day.

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You are a fool.

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Woopse

Success, Laxe, BS off topic.

You’re pulling for the pumpkin furor because he’s swell.

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Yes, I saw the footage. A "lover's spat" doesn't normally put someone in the hospital with a fractured skull. He stated that he wanted to see Nancy Pelosi, not Paul, and that he had a number of [political] bones to pick WITH HER.

David Dwayne DuPape had had mental episodes and truly believed in a number of QAnon conspiracy theories that have little to do with the truth.

He was rightfully convicted by a jury of his peers to 50 years in prison on assault and attempted kidnapping of a Federal Officer. Those are the facts that you can take to the bank.

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/david-depape-paul-pelosi-attack-opening-statements/

I am well aware that some people on the fringes of never ever land believe that David Dwayne Dupape was Paul Pelosi's gay lover. The problem is that nothing of the kind was apparent on the bodycam footage you refer to. Paul Pelosi was startled in the middle of the night if you wish to refer to his missing pants. DuPape had a wife and 2 children. Paul Pelosi is not known or rumored to have had gay lovers in the past. [I'm sure some would have shown up by now,. David Dwayne Dupape seems to have a fascination and was caught for indecent exposure several times, but not for homosexuality, either with Mr. Pelosi or anyone else, and he clearly stated his intention to kidnap Nancy Pelosi.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N31Y148/

The far out conspiracy theory seems to have originated with Elon Musk who twitted but then deleted the story:

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20221101-elon-musk-tweets-then-deletes-conspiracy-theory-post-about-the-paul-pelosi-attack

You should take whatever Elon Musk says with a pile of salt and stop getting your truths on Twitter.

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Not likely to find cultists here.

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You wish.

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Was sarcasm

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Laxe

I have a 2# hammer.

Meet me outside and I’ll give you a demonstration love tap. 💋

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You are a TROLL. Maybe we should sic the MAGATS on you, crack your scull open with a hammer and say it was a lover’s spat. Pelosi called desperately for help.

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Don't waste time on trolls; their purpose is to throw you off the rails. They are zombies.

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Did you forget to take your meds again ?

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Also hopelessness, anger, resentment and finally a desire to burn down the country that has left them behind.

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“The country” has left Trump supporters behind? This country has opportunity for anyone who chooses to avail themselves of those opportunities. Even my local Walmart in a small city in a red state pays $15/hr to start and includes college benefits. My son has a good friend who doesn’t think he’s college material so he’s going to school to be a welder which pays up to $50-70/hr. In the past I’ve been a substitute teacher for mild/moderate special ed in high school and all those kids wanted to be welders because the money is so great. If people feel this country has left them behind it’s because they aren’t trying to avail themselves of the opportunities available and probably expect a lot for no effort. And they probably have a skewed idea of what other people have and how they achieve it. It sounds to me like the same thinking that leads to white men saying that they don’t have any opportunities and they’re the victims of reverse discrimination.

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There are many left behind. It's almost impossible for what was a middle class person to buy a house these days. My daughter and her husband make around $120k and they can't save up to buy a house. Their rent for a 2 bedroom apt is $2700/mo. She's driving a 20yr old car with well over 100k miles and he has an older model truck. Between food, gas, childcare, rent, and utilities, there's not much left over. At least she is contributing to her 401k for the max allowed.

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I don’t know how they got into a position where they’re renting an apartment for $2700/month. Of course they can’t get ahead. There were things they could have done from the beginning that would have them in a better position now. I’m not faulting them. Most people don’t do very practical things when they’re starting their “adult life.” It’s too bad because it’s really hard to get out of that mess once you’re in it. One piece of advice I’d give them…get a roommate. Even if they and the kid(s) have to sleep in the same room. In a year they could save $12,000+. It’s a start on a down payment for a house. In that same year, one or both could get a second job, working so that the other can take care of the child(ren). That’s another $10k. Budget to the bone. No new clothes for them. Second-hand clothes only for any children. No money for coffee or meals out. Live a brutal year all around and they should have $25-30k+ to put a down payment on a house. If they want to continue being smart, they should buy a two-family home and use the rent on the other half to help with their mortgage payment and still save money toward the goal of buying themselves a single family home and renting both parts of the multi-family. Good luck to them!

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Not that easy. It depends on where you live. I know someone paying $2,000 a month for a fourth floor walk up studio apartment. That is what it costs and it is a modest apartment in a modest neighborhood.

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Deborah Treschitta, people aren't a number on a paper. So your plan sounds so simple but it is lifeless. It takes nothing into account of their myriad of personal and family challenges, responsibilities, or deficits. It's numbers on a paper-centered not people-centered. It reeks of rationalization of superiority and of continuuing billionaire exploitation.

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Sadly Deborah common sense ain't common. I agree with you,but people have unlimited problems for every simple solution .

When I retired as a financial analyst it was the best day of my life.No longer did I have to put up with people that denied that 2x1 is 2

2x2 is 4......2x4 is 8..This has many names,exponential growth,compounding etc..This comes into play with two common names,Coca Cola and Wal Mart,and many others.Coke starting in 1919 @ $40 a share,I forget now how many 2 for 1 splits they have had but you now have ~ 10,000 shares in Coke at approx $60 each.Nobody could afford $40 back then. Nobody could possibly pay back a loan of $40 over a period of 105 years..

Wal Mart I know better, 11 X 2 for 1 splits and a recent 3 for 1. 2x1 is 2

2x2 is 4. 2x4 is 8.Every time they look in the mirror the fool that stares back at them is the problem.

Wal Mart you can count on your fingers,people would rather deny it for an entire life time and more if they could .Started at $16.50 in 1971,nobody bought it,nobody had $16.50 to spare,nobody could possibly pay back a loan of $16.50 over decades and decades. People will tell you that every day of their lives and longer if they could..You now have just over 6,000 shares in Wal Mart at ~ $60 each a simple idea,I'll employ some rich people to work for me by becoming a part owner ( shareholder )of that company .

This brings us to the latest goose that lays the golden eggs.They are always determined to kill that goose,jealousy,stupidity,who knows..I think Bezos is back to being the richest man in the world, the goose that lays the golden eggs.He owns 9% of himself,down from 10% as he has been donating shares/money to charity.. So in round numbers he has 1 billion shares in Amazon at whatever the share price is..Anybody can feed the goose that lays the golden eggs,buy the bird seed ( shares in the goose ) and the goose will lay as many golden eggs as possible for as long as it can,to thankyou for having faith in it .

The person looking back from the mirror of course has a lot of self delusional nonsense.

Reds under the bed

They don't pay tax.

They have my share of the " money".

They don't pay tax

They vote for Trump.

They are determined to destroy the world .Etc etc etc.

Shall I kill the goose,or shall I collect the golden eggs.I'm never surprised at how 99% of people think the correct answer is kill the goose.

There are many other simple things cone into it but when they deny that 2x1 is 2 etc why bother.They will deny it .

I started as a welder because " they make a lot of money".I was good at it.I could glue metal together to an extremely high standard.People would fly me to various places around the world to glue al those various and exotic metals together .Looks great,but they wanted their pound of flesh,work 84 hours per week,then perhaps have a day off to recover,or a week off.You get sick of leaving family and friends at the drop of a hat for an undetermined length of time.

I was glad of the career change,until reality strikes. "I'm not paying you for simple answers.I want you to tell me that I'll be rich by next week because you know the secrets"

2x1 is 2

2x2 is 4

2x4 is 8.

Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

I think you've nailed

It so far Keep up the good work

This brings us to the

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How on earth did you come up with that assumption? I'm just commenting that many people are left behind and feel that the American Dream is out of their reach. I know people who are working 2 and sometimes 3 jobs just to stay afloat.

And calling the orange baboon a billionaire is pretty hilarious these days.

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LMFAO. He cares for NO ONE but himself.

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@Deborah. You are in good company with a majority of professional political scientists. But there is one other factor which is the effect of global capitalists moving jobs out of the USA to low tax , low regulation nd low labor cost locations in other countries, combined with so many opportunities in the USA are in more urban settings which has tended to hollow out rural areas. I feel the Democrats (I am one) need to pay more attention to jobs and infrastructure in rural areas and set up regulations to limit how corporations can avoid taxes and regulations by moving operations overseas.

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OK. But if you know them it's all visceral.

How can someone on say, SSI, vote for any Republican? Republicans want to KILL it. In some red states, virtually all do. https://dailyyonder.com/a-vote-against-self-interest/2015/11/16/

That's why "Trump hates dogs" and "Trump stole from kids with cancer" are more effective.

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@Daniel. If I may, I think we are talking about different components of the electorate. I don’t disagree that some former Trump voters may be persuaded by appeals to their emotional values. But I’m concerned that the more their attachment to Trump is visceral the less they can be swayed. I’m addressing the part of that coalition that is more rational, ie more persuadable. But I’ll attest my view is far from scientific - more of a hope than a finding.

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Yes - the Trump hates dogs works -

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Hello Benjamin, The infrastructure bill has given birth to many, many infrastructure projects in rural areas which also bring jobs to those areas. It has also brought the internet to the rural areas where it wasn’t available before. Finally, the new green energy will be replacing “cleeeeeen coal” (How Trump says “clean coal…ridiculous in more ways than one 🙄) will bring better jobs to more rural areas, not just big cities. Additionally, construction spending on new manufacturing facilities in the US has increased more than any other G7 nation and foreign investment in the US for advanced manufacturing has increased, specifically using 2022 as the basis for data since this is the first full year since Biden’s incentives went into effect.

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@Deborah. Yes! The problem is that perception is reality for some people. Their choice of media feeds them a "curated" reality which is part carefully selected fact and part bold lie. Consequently the affected people don't really get the true story, therefor hang on to their resentments. I hope the Biden campaign pushes lots of real stories by real people who are doing better!

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They try. Hard to get anything through congress

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Mar 17·edited Mar 17

In Florida, Governor DeSantis just signed bills to loosen child labor laws, prohibit cities and counties from redlining contractors that don't pay a living wage, and prohibits requirements for contractors to provide water breaks and lunch breaks. I would not want to pour hot tar on a road bed all day without shade of any kind under these conditions for a company that was hired by bidding cheap. Governor DeSantis is of the same mind as Trump, so you can sort of get the idea from him about the tenor of things to come if Trump gets elected. In my county, apartment builders wanted to apply for tax relief for offering low income housing. What was their low income cost for an apartment? $2,000/month. And that rate goes up by 8% every year just ...because it can.

It's important to refrain from generalizing. When migrant workers fled Florida because of hell fire from the governor, business "leaders" held a convention to figure out how to get them back because both construction and agriculture came to a dead halt. You can look this up. Maybe you don't understand that these workers PAY TAXES (unlike General Electric which makes billions of dollars a year and doesn't pay any).

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Listen, I left California after many years because of my taxes and how utterly unaffordable it is. We paid 2,400 a month for health insurance that covers ZERO. I would watch the benefits allocated to those coming over the boarder, food, shelter, phone, health insurance that made my TAXES worse. It is NOT okay. Look at the top corporations, they pay ZERO in income tax. That is so WRONG yet, we keep doing it because they give $ to politicians. When are we all going to stand up on the streets and say ENOUGH.

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Actually there are a lot of people left behind. Truly. I just sat with a group of college grads with HUGE debt, who can't get jobs because the tech sector is allowed to bring in H1Visas without restraint. No, Deborah, there are a lot of angry people in America who feel that Corporations and the billionaires are destroying our country.

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Michealene,

Having lived in Seattle area for a few years, witnessing the upper middle class housing available to the Microsoft Visa workers, it was stunning, in light of American Citizen options. Too many have not lived around the US to truly see what has become of the US. As I returned home to New England in 2015, I had also learned we are no longer the United States. States do anything they want and have for some decades with no federal consequences but taking federal monies with rules attached. As the federal government has been defunded of its regulatory arms, so have states gone rogue. Some appear 'Blue' state but act like Red states.

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Completely agree with you. I watched the India "mafia" house H1Visa employees in housing like rats, and having no voice. No consequences as the state level, where is the FCC with all of these groups. Don't take away my guns, but you can have a twitter bot, send porn out everywhere.

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Michelene, My ex-husband was a senior software engineer and is now in management and his current wife is also a software developer. I’ve known him for about 30 years - through him working for the huge company, Oracle, to working for a startup to now working for a medium-sized company. The percentage of H1Visas to American citizens is, and has always been, small. My ex-husband, when he worked at Oracle (where there were more employees with visas) had a Bachelor’s degree from a small college versus his coworkers who had Master’s from Stanford. When there was a job that was challenging or needed to be done quickly, my husband was the one tasked with it. There was a big presentation in Las Vegas that Larry Ellison was giving personally. The team went out there and something was messed up with the code and they couldn’t fix it so they flew my (then) husband out and he had about 18 hours to fix it before the deadline. He finished in an hour and a half. I’ve known probably about a hundred of his coworkers throughout the years and only a couple were here on a visa. My ex thought all of the ones I knew were talented and I saw them change jobs to get raises often. It’s what they do in software. My ex could write his ticket just about anywhere. My point in all this is that skill plays a factor and not all jobs are taken by foreigners. And, not from him but from me living in a flyover state, if there aren’t jobs where you are, move. There are plenty of jobs here and more are being created every day. And the cost of living is way cheaper.

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Thank you for this. I wish we had access to these numbers. I had a friend at APPLE who saw a number of employees jobs taken by H1Visa...so either way, it's not okay.

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I heard those cases. If they lost the job to an immigrant but were equally qualified, send them to a lawyer!!!! They may have a case if they can prove it.

I used to take testimony from vocational experts. They can place anybody!

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Daniel, these are not just single cases. Google, FB, Tesla, APPLE have whole companies offshore that are doing this, the percentages are HIGH... and it happens all day long.

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"Reality" tv and social media fraud " influencers" have a lot to do with the envy and dillusion.

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Well, it’s great that things have worked out for you Deborah, but realize that it’s not a level playing field (as growing economic inequality illustrates). The same opportunities are not always available to everyone. If you live in an impoverished community, one where the major employer has left, come from a broken, abusive home, have been told all your life that you’re worthless, have troubled friends, gangs, under-funded schools, etc, etc. it’s a naive fantasy that you can simply pick yourself up by your bootstraps, move to a new context and start a new life. Sure, some can do it, but not everyone. And unfortunately. some in the latter camp get hopeless and angry enough that they’d just like to see the whole system burn — and Trump is the match.

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Not everyone cares about or takes advantage of the opportunities that are there and that’s different. I’ve known people from all sorts of backgrounds in my life who overcame all those situations you’re talking about. I’m specifically thinking of one guy whose life was almost a formulaic plot for a sappy movie. Grew up in Harlem in the dangerous days. Absent father, impoverished home; he stepped over drug dealers and homeless on his way to his crappy, underfunded school. He graduated from high school and joined the military and when I met him he was in an upper management position in the FAA. Very successful. Not everyone does that for myriad reasons but that doesn’t mean it can’t be done. So if those who don’t do it want to burn down the country, they - once again - want an easy way out. No one can do anything about people who don’t help themselves. And that goes way beyond any political or ideological reasoning. Biden becomes the excuse for their failure and they’re hoping for some “magical” rescue from the circumstances of their own making. Trump plays into that magical thinking and, sadly, they’re not bright enough to see through it even when it’s obvious that by supporting him they’re working against their best interests. You can’t fix stupid.

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Deborah Treschitta, I thinketh you see the splinter in someone else's eye but not the log in yours. You are missing the opportunity to go out amongst all sorts of people and listen, ask questions, and observe with an open heart. If you do, you will find the whole truth. What you are currently saying is part truth and is laden with judgment

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You have no idea the many, many, many years I’ve gone out among all *sorts* of people and done exactly what you’re advocating - and more! I tutored the woman who helped me around the house so she could get her GED. She and the guy who helped her went back on drugs and stole from me. I currently have five other people who are former drug users who help me with things and who I help with getting their lives into some kind of manageable place. I’ve had more but two more stole from me. The people I have now have been in prison and been homeless and were hard-core drug users and (sometimes) alcoholics for years - decades, sometimes. So you take people like that and run the gamut from coworkers in office jobs and factories to students when I worked as a teacher aide for a few years and a substitute teacher, to my coworkers who were very successful in our aviation field and almost all of whom came from a blue collar background and I can literally say that I’ve been around and interacted very closely with a greater number and wider variety of people than most people have. I’ve always been a talker - I love getting to know people - and, importantly, an excellent listener. And I don’t judge people for past mistakes. Do I judge them for being weak and stealing my grandmother’s engagement and wedding rings? You bet I do. And those rings are a perfect example of why I judge them. My grandparents moved from Massachusetts to Connecticut - away from their families and all they had known - for better job opportunities. They had four children when the Depression hit and they pawned those rings to pay for food for their children. My grandfather worked three jobs to get them back on their feet and get those rings back. He worked until he was well into his 60’s. My grandmother worked until she was 74 years old. They couldn’t buy a house until they were in their 50’s but they finally did. They were the poster children for hard work. And my parents and aunts and uncles and my siblings and cousins and I all learned that you don’t get anything without working hard for it. And that you make your own opportunities. And you create your own failures. There’s your log and splinter right there.

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Deborah, this is a sad story. Thank you for sharing it. One of the things that comes across is that geographic mobility has destroyed personal connections and entire communities. The socio-psychological costs of "progress" are staggering and the political consequences are frightening.

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Deborah Treschitta, you have a good heart and have talked with and helped people in need. Some betrayed you. I'd be angry too.

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This is what happens when Trump is not held accountable. Trump is able to get away with these ongoing threats of a violent insurrection because of the failure of Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice.

He must be defeated again!

Bye-Don again!

On a t-shirt here: t.co/l4pbfMJofY

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YES on the failures of Merrick Garland. He has been horrible Attorney General. I still believe he would have made a terrific Supreme Court Justice.

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Thomas,

Merrick Garland was an Orrin Hatch pick for Obama- a Federalist member, like the FBI head, Chris Wray. You wonder why the Reds have no consequences?

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Could not agree with you more. WTF is Garland...? He is too busy hiring HUR, who totally was biased, instead of doing his job. Get the orange jumpsuit behind bars.

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Yes! I suspect most of the chaos and strife happening today would not be happening if Garland had aggressively responded to the Jan 6th insurrection on Day 7 — by going after the people at the top (in the suits and ties) instead of merely prosecuting the low-level pawns in order to create the appearance that he was doing something.

Garland may have made a great judge but he’s the wrong man for the AG job. Jack Smith probably would have been better!

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Love that logo!

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Bullshit! This country is amazing and you can choose to kill your self if you want or stop acting like a whiny baby and get up off your ass and be grateful for what you have! I’m sick of this doom and gloom attitude. Biden has done more for this country than anyone in years! Look at the numbers. Stop complaining and realize if you vote for a nut job like the orange sociopath you’re going to be living under a dictatorship. I’m sure you’ll be really happy with absolutely NO FREEDOM whatsoever. Left behind my ass. Move to Haiti or any of Trump’s shithole countries if you want to know what left behind really means!

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Betty, I have worked in many parts of the world, and sorry our country has left a TON of people behind. I am not whining, I am speaking about the African Americans in Chicago that haven been begging for help for YEARS, and than suddenly we found 3 billion to help immigrants. Sorry, as a woman I have seen and watched my rights erode.

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Democrats didn't eliminate affirmative action, underfund the EEOC, oppose the voting right act, ship jobs to Mejico and China etc. BLAME IT ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

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Totally agree AND they allowed it to happen. How come Reproductive rights were not worked on earlier? They create GREAT donations. The whole system sucks.

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Right on!

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So have I and I’m mad as hell! I fought for them in the 70’s, but I know I have two choices… only two. Biden or Trump and I’m not an idiot. I can see that Biden is going to do a hell of a lot more for me than a rapist, narcissistic asshole; so instead of complaining about it I am going to VOTE! And do anything I can to keep that monster from entering the Oval Office again!

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Or they are not aware of opportunities available in this country

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They support the very people who have "left them behind" (but actually favor them over many of their countrymen).

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Bill, I think that Marlo was trying to make the options for voting Trump simpler. While each individual cultist has their reason I have said for a long time that you can really boil it down to just 2 reasons. One Stupid or two, Racist. I'd also like you to clarify if you believe our country has left the Trumpers behind?

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For immature males, peer pressure is stronger than faith or family.

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Churches are peer pressure centers.

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Especially if you're from a broken home, with a single alcoholic or crack-addicted parent.

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Well, I don’t believe people are *born* stupid and racist, they have to be made that way by years of fear and neglect.

No, it’s not the fault of our country as a whole. If anything, it’s our socio-economic model that turns around individualism, competition, and “getting ahead” (which can’t help but mean “leaving everyone else behind”). The end result is a dying Middle Class, a destitute Lower Class, and a handful of billionaires (soon to be trillionaries?) building their own kingdom on a Hawaiian island (Zuckerberg), or on planet Mars (Musk).

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I respect your right to believe what you will and if your tied to a theology then you've limited your choices right there. That's fine that we believe differently. I'm sure we both agree that Trump is the greatest threat to the future of our nation in my lifetime and yours and must be stopped at each point he tries to raise.

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"The Dictator for One Day" says that there will be a bloodbath if he loses the next election. Does he intend to use Russian and Hungarian troops?

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Something I didn’t realize until I was in my 50’s is that, yes, people *are* born stupid. I am fortunate that I was born with a relatively high IQ and a kind heart so I just thought that people weren’t as smart as I am and if I could only teach them well enough that they’d be smart too. Smart enough. Nope! People actually are stupid. No one wants to say it bluntly because it sounds elitist and mean. I’m not elitist. I’m the daughter of a plumber and a factory office worker - filing, not management. But both my parents were pretty smart. It was being the son of an immigrant who went through the depression that led my father to the only choice of the trades as a career and my mother being a housewife with children that led her to an office job. But they weren’t stupid. So, my feelings about what people do being a result of their intelligence or lack thereof isn’t a correlation I make. But I kind of threw out the baby with the bath water. My father went on to lead large building crews when he was a relatively young man. And then to being an inspector working for the city, a coveted job in my home town and, once again, achieved at a relatively young age. And along the way he learned how to build houses. Because he was innately pretty smart and a really good worker. Not everyone is. Contrary to what Trump will tell them, I don’t think that makes them someone to look down on and it certainly doesn’t make them “deplorable.” It’s the ridiculous gullibility and refusal to acknowledge facts in order to cling to their “band of hate” brothers and sisters and their racism and xenophobia that I look down on and find deplorable. But, because they’re stupid, they won’t admit the truth. It’s easier to let Trump do their thinking for them. Ugh.

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Agreed.

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Go to another country and let me know if you like it. Or stay and keep your country on a good track, don't help destroy it, don't light the match.

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Yes, that's the problem - MAGAs feel powerless and hopeless in themselves, so turn to Trump - who doesn't give them any hope, but at least they feel aligned with someone who *appears* powerful.

Seems like Biden/Dems at least are starting to get the message that giving hope to the masses is critically important!

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They've been left behind since Reagan. Trump is only exploiting that fact.

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Probably because of the steady diet of lies from Conservative media

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Marlo, I don't know about you but if that little orange man threatened my family, I sure as hell would not give in then!! If he threatened my political career that would be all the more reason for not supporting him because you see what has happened to a lot of political careers by those that chose to follow him and constantly exposing yourself to right-wing propaganda 24/7 will definitely screw up your head!! These people need to open their eyes and come out into the light!! Wake up, America!! Vote Blue in November!!

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So I am voting blue, but am TERRIFIED it will not be enough. I am terrified that the strung out right wing, will say it was rigged AGAIN and we will have an outright war.

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Michealene, I will admit to you that I was worried and nervous about this. My sister retired from the military assured me that if it becomes necessary, the President can work with the military (they defend America from terrorists at home as well as abroad) and quell the unrest pretty quickly. She also said that inciting violence against other Americans to obtain power (like January 6) is an insurrection and unlawful. She put my mind at ease. The majority of Americans stand for Democracy and will not surrender it to the likes of the little orange man and his cult.

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I agree with you. It seems the Republicans that support Trump have no integrity.

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None whatsoever!!

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Republican leaders are COWARDS. Look at McConnell, he endorsed TRUMP!

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But if you were an otherwise sane Republican Congressman, like my Representative Juan Ciscomani (R), you might keep quiet to protect your wife and six kids.

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Oh Diane, my heart hurts for these Congressmen who fear for their families safety! It is absolutely insane that those vicious, vile threats and intimidation are happening here in our country!! I don't know Rep. Juan Ciscomani but I do know and understand the importance of keeping your family safe. Who would have ever thought our country would reach this point?

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Agree with all you said and you need to add racist to the reasons for voting tRump.

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If you run scared of a bully - then you’ll be his target always - you have to stand up and call him what he is- even if you can’t keep your job - a toadie for Trump is just as bad as the bully himself

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@ Marlo -- like real estate: Racism, racism, racism.

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Yes, Trump was indoctrinated by his father back in the 70’s, both sued for RACIAL DISCRIMINATION

https://www.newsweek.com/fair-housing-acts-50th-anniversary-look-back-investigation-trump-familys-879437

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Hey I liked “The Goonies!”

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Summed it up nicely!

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"Greed, fear and stupidity are the reasons people support . . . Genocide."

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How's everything in Vladivostok?

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Marlo, I don't think that your description of the people that support Trump is accurate.

America is not free, Trump said: I'm giving the country back to YOU the people of America. That is how this plays out. If YOU get to govern your affairs wouldn't that be freedom? Do you really want a government corporation to tell you what you must do?

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The funniest thing to me? The supreme court CONTINUES to support him when, if he steals a second election, they will be looking through the classified ads DAY ONE! HE TOLD THEM SO! Who needs courts when he's "Bigly Fuehrer 4 Lyfe???" [sic]

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I agree. The judiciary has much to fear from sturmfuehrer.

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I don’t understand. If the Supreme Court is supporting Trump (and they seem to be) wouldn’t he want to keep them?

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They don’t. Typical lying Republican. Are you from Russia perhaps? You keep espousing MISINFORMATION

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I have lived here all my life and I still do not understand it.

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Media helps a lot by reporting without analysis, interpretation, or context. And by NOT reporting his more vile & unhinged statements. Between normalizing & both-siding MSM keeps him front & center while sidelining the President.

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That's true, Jan. I encourage a lot of the people who parrot the media to study up on Yellow Journalism. It has been around as long as newspapers have been circulated. Using lurid features and sensationalized news to get more people to click or read their publications. Many people did not read yellow journalist (back in my younger days it was usually National Enquirer or the Star) and knew that what they wrote was NOT factual representation.

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We have an online news site called YellowHammer in Alabama. Are they proud of their yellow journalism or did they miss the irony?

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I’d almost forgotten about the Enq & Star. “Inquiring minds want to know.” I didn’t think of them as yellow journ because I didn’t think journalism was involved. But that would certainly be the right genre. Yellow journ on steroids.

I kind of miss their lurid headlines. And I always wondered whether anyone believed that a woman in Papua New Guinea had given birth to Siamese sextuplets joined at the feet so they looked like a sweet 6-pointed star. 🙂

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Hahahahahaha!! I know! Those headlines were attention grabbers, weren't they?

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Republicans have historically kept their constituents as illiterate and pliable as possible, malleable, so they believe what is told to them. Better if they are hyper religious which means you question little. One only needs to look at the metrics for health, longevity, higher education, and yes crime ( higher in cities in red states) to be convinced. Their relative lack of education makes them easy prey for conspiracy theories, fear mongering, mob mentality. When they have very limited knowledge they think as one. It’s sad and scary but not surprising at all.

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Yes indeed its difficult having never been in a cult it's impossible to have a frame of reference. I guess its like a fan club gone very wrong. Plus he is a master con man.

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He is no master. Just his fans are celebrity worshipers & easily manipulated

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I agree. Some watched “The Apprentice” and were enthralled. I never liked that show. I saw him for what he was back then. The show was actually losing money towards the end.

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I absolutely hate reality shows!! I never watched his show. I couldn't stand his voice or the way he looked back then and it's even worse now!!

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I only watched a couple of times, and “something” about him made me uncomfortable even though the silver screen.

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Reality shows just look "unscripted." tRump was just playing a business man on tv. He didn't even write the Art of the Deal. Anthony Schwartz did. Donald cannot and does not write.

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As an insider, an American, it is hard for me to understand why people are supporting a traitor and someone who is actively trying to destroy our constitution and our democracy!

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Conditioning is powerful. North American society evolved an ethos ideally suited to and likely to produce human beings with similar characteristics as Trump and who aspire to the many false and harmful notions of what it is to be 'successful', i.e. Wealth, Materialism, Status, Fame, Influence, Power.

Conditioning is difficult to resist because it is insidious. The result is that it becomes the 'norm' and often, even usually, becomes lauded and seen as desirable. Because it is insidious and evolves over time and because it is spread by institutions generally seen as respectable, valuable, honest and protective of fundamentally agreed values, it is readily insinuated into the social mindset, both individual and collective.

The problem is that because it is so, most don't even recognise it for what it really is and many will even strongly oppose those who try to show its reality and its failings, as well as the risk it poses to harmony, equity, reason, justice and morality in society.

The result is virtually an acceptance that people such as Epstein and Trump and other such insults to caring humanity will exist and simply have to be tolerated or, even worse, emulated. Thus we have the deluded, misled, ignorant MAGA supporters of Trump and the cowardly GOP members who have allowed him to destroy the very principles on which the Party was founded.

Those people, in the main, are not 'bad' people, but as one notable is reported once to have said: 'Forgive them for they know not what they do.'

Unfortunately, if those people are allowed to have their way, despite the reality that most of them will come to regret it, the damage will be done and the true values that most US citizens hold in high regard - even if they can't always live up to them - will be destroyed and replaced by a narrow-minded, unforgiving, vengeful and dictatorial society such as one would never have thought possible for a nation such as the USA.

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Brilliantly said.

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non sibi cunctis - Well said, but your last paragraph descends into the sort of hyperbole that Trump is so infamous of. And yet, there is a grain of truth in it, too. Ordinary people will adopt his hyperbolic language and use it in untimely fashion - as he does. They will think it's "cool". They will hang on to his words and interpret them literally, knowing on reflection that Trump is very good at upping the heat and animating his followers but can't be taken literally.

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Thank you for your view but I can't agree with it. There is no hyperbole about my last paragraph or, indeed, anything I wrote. If, as it seems, you think that there is, I suggest you look up its meaning in a dictionary.

Take care. Stay safe. ☮️

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I completely agree with your last paragraph. I wish I didn't.

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That was most excellent, non sibi cunctis!!

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It was explored by Nietzsche; it was alluded to in the remarkable book “Democracy in America” by de Tocqueville in the chapter on how democracies fail. There is rampant immaturity in America coupled with ressentiment towards those seen as unfairly prospering. “Hillbilly Elegy” took a swing at resentment based on self-pity before JD Vance got stupid. The anger of the immature, who feel downtrodden and oppressed in the country with one of the best standards of living in the world, drives them. They believe that their prosperity has been stolen by a shadowy enemy, and that it can be recovered by erasing that part of the country’s population. To do so, they trust in the most wicked and nefarious, who promise to treat their favored children to riches. It has not worked before, and so many have suffered in making remedy.

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I’m aware of de Tocqueville and his writing, especially the “dictatorship of the majority”. Just because there is a majority does not make a decision ethically acceptable or even truely democratic. Here we are seeing millions support him and voting for him. I think that you have to go back to Germany and the elections that brought Hitler and NSDAP to power to find something similar.

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@Mohammad. You clearly know history. But the parallels are more contemporary; Orban in Hungary, Putin in Russia, Xi in China (as always a special flavor in China) Kim in North Korea and the little dictators in some of the former Soviet countries...

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But he's right about Germany. I really wish he weren't.

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You wrote: "....There is rampant immaturity in America coupled with ressentiment towards those seen as unfairly prospering," Yet tRump is the person who favors the prosperous rich with more grift, lower taxes. He does nothing to support the poor and yet they love him. It's counterintuitive. And stupid.

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