Actually those who know Matt Gaetz - Rick Wilson, for example, - say he is very smart, but that he is a very "bad guy." He is that horrifying combination of mental and moral rot and intelligence.
As for Gaetz being confirmed or not, tRump will name him in "recess appointment" and that gives Gaetz some 200+ days as AG before needing confir…
Actually those who know Matt Gaetz - Rick Wilson, for example, - say he is very smart, but that he is a very "bad guy." He is that horrifying combination of mental and moral rot and intelligence.
As for Gaetz being confirmed or not, tRump will name him in "recess appointment" and that gives Gaetz some 200+ days as AG before needing confirmation; plenty of time to do the most evil deeds percolating in tRump's vile mind, a mind equated by the sick depravity of Matt Gaetz's mind.
Tim Miller and Rick Wilson held a conversation on "The Bulwark" which you can see on YouTube, a conversation that was terrifying in part because they know these people and have known them for a long time, not only Gaetz and tRump, but also those called "Republicans" and the MAGAts. It's a terrifying future.
Annie, I can't help but ask, where were those guys who supposedly knew Trump so well when he was running for office, when they should have been shouting to the world just what they knew about Trump. A conversation among friends doesn't cut it. Maybe it would have helped, though I suspect the Trumpers and Trumpettes would have voted for the jerk anyway because they couldn't possibly vote for a woman, and a Black/South Asian woman at that. They would rather have a white male criminal who proposes to destroy our nation than a great woman. It is startling the hatred people, mostly white people, have for women and people of color in general. Those folks aren't even slightly ashamed of the behavior of their chosen Republican leaders, guys and a few women who are willing to stand against our Constitution to defend a whiny toddler-man, Trump, and his cadre of sycophants who would do their voters harm if it meant they would gain something from the act. It really is disgusting and very depressing.
Re-reading your post, Ruth, and I will add that I think the "Trumpers" and "Trumpettes" have shown quite decisively that they do not care whether Trump or Gaetz or Vance or Cash Patel or any of the crowd of pirates, criminals, predators and con-artists have done the disgusting, illegal, sadistic and obscene things they have done. In fact, they seem to celebrate it. It is beyond the comprehension of most of us and I continue to wonder how it came to be that some 50% of this country's voters in 2024 think all of that is OK and hate the country that is their and our, home so much to want to destroy it. The problems are deeper than most of us want to even consider.
Annie, I think it stems from the racism, misogyny, xenophobia, and more that have been percalating for generations, never dealt with effectively in a positive way, just either ignored or enhanced by those who find hatred a cherished quality even while calling themselves christians. It really is pretty disgusting, but I do not know how to reach those who are lost in the hatred, anger, fear, and resentment that a bunch of scared white people, mostly men, but certainly not all men, have pushed on the people of this country. So many white folks can't even imagine seeing other people as equal to their white selves. And, even women, Trumpettes, are OK with and practice misogyny on their sisters along with their racism and the rest. I don't think any of them wishes to change since change is so hard for people even though it is the one constant in life. Ugh!
I am not an expert on those guys, but from all I can tell Tim Miller and certainly Rick Wilson HAVE been speaking out against Trump from before 2016. Rick Wilson wrote the book entitled, perfectly, "Everything Trump Touches Dies" and he is from Florida and has spoken out about the Gaetz power and influence in that state for some time apparently. Tim Miller, an ex-Republican - "ex" since Trump - has been involved in The Bulwark which has been outspoken and active against Trump, albeit populated by Republicans. I think they were mostly distressed by what Trump and his crime organization have done to the party they once were dedicated to, but they are also alarmed and disgusted by what that change has done to the country.
I think, but am not sure, that Rick Wilson is also involved in The Lincoln Project, a Republican (or erstwhile Republican) campaign against Trump and MAGA.
Your question is a good one, and it is peripherally related to what (to me anyway) is an even bigger question NOW and that is, for just one example, how can the weasel Mike Johnson, with his ever-present unctuous "touched by an angel, ain't I" smirk, continue to defend, protect, and deceive on behalf of the lowest of the low - and still pose as some pious beatific representative of celestial goodness. Translation: a quintessential creep, hypocrite and one who would have been thrown out of the temple, if one believes in such things (which Mike Johnson claims he does as he hides behind his phony, phony sanctimonious BS.)
Back to Tim Miller and Rick Wilson, I don't think they were just having a conversation between friends and neither did they avoid speaking out against Trump back during his political campaigns, and likewise for other MAGA candidates; they have been speaking out from the get-go and I only mention them because they were early "adopters" and long-time Republicans. Same with Stuart Stevens, a very smart long-time Republican, who has minced no words from the get-go of Trump and MAGA. I think they are as disheartened and infuriated as any of us non-Republicans are.
Again, I'm no expert on ex-or current Republicans and certainly MAGA (which sounds a lot like a disease that needs treatment. "Got MAGA? Talk to your doctor!" and ask for MAGAxyermterofibia!"
Yep, it is all disgusting. Trump wants to degrade and degrade and degrade and push everything and everybody to get them to be as low, vile and despicable as he is. I think his self-loathing is killing us all. We must not let him drag us down. Hang in there, Ruth Sheets. Disgusting, yes. Try not to let the "very depressing" win out!
Annie, I don't know much about Miller and Wilson, and I read a lot and try to stay up with things. Their voices were not very loud back in the day and I am guessing few heard or cared about what they were saying. How could they tell the truth about the Republican reality TV star and great businessman? People had bought and paid for the BS Trump and his cronies were putting out because they wanted to believe it. Trump was a terrible president, but the fans gave him another term so the destruction he couldn't manage the first time can be done in the second term. That is appalling, but Trumpers, Trumpettes, and our media seem to love it because they neglected to present Trump as the fool he is, pretending he was somehow equal in ability to Biden, then Harris when he was no such thing and they knew it. Trump's sycophants learned quickly how to bamboozle the American people and nearly half of us voted for that jerk and because of that, we will all pay big.
Smart or not, who ever is AG has to have some gravitas, some background in the law, Gaetz has none.
Think about this. Trump and Gaetz were on the plane together, The plane lands and Trump announces Gaetz as AG, Gaetz resigns. The House committee is about to release it's report on the results of the investigation of the ethics committee. The ethics committee is f Republicans, 5 Democrats, The chair is a Republican, the Ranking committee member a Democrat (Susan Wild)
Gaetz resigns, the report is no released it is now under the control of the Speaker. It will stay "secret", parts have been leaked of course, but nothing official.
Trump needs someone of the calibre of Bill Barr as AG, to shepherd his dictatorship through the corridors of DC, and the consitution, and the institution.
Gaetz is not that man, he needs someone with experience in that matter, not someone with a law degree and no connections.
No one in DC, not even in Congress, likes or respects him, except Trump
The only congress critter that Trump can really depend on is Gaetz, and he makes a perfect Speaker of the House, he knows the routine.
I could be wrong, I am marking November 15 on the calendar as the day I predict Gaetz will withdraw from nomination as AG, be sworn in again on Jan 3rd as a member of the 119th Congressional Congress, and with Trump pushing it, be elected Speaker of the House.
It was all plotted aboard AF One, on Nov 13th
If I am wrong I will admit it
Yes if the Senate Democrats don't agree to speedy nominations, and they are saying that they will, there will be recess appointments.
The Senate Democrats know that Trump will get his picks anyway, so why further antagonize him by holding them up, they are after all politicians, looking out for themselves.
By agreeing to speedy confirmations they are participating voluntarily in the speedy deconstruction of our Democratic Republic., and givin the fascist dictatorship smooth waters to sail over.
William, I hope you do prove wrong about Senate Democrats. It seems to me every single one of them needs to do everything in their power to prevent incompetent a-holes from being in charge of anything in our government. If they put up no resistance, Trump will know for sure he can walk all over them and break as many laws as he chooses. Our media still isn't getting the word out strongly enough about who and what Gates is, who and what RFK,Jr. is and what he could do to their health, and who and what that Fox big mouth scheduled for Dept. of Defense is and how little knowledge he has about anything beyond whining about Democrats and in favor of his Baby Donnie. Then, there's Musk and the group of men who are too rich for their own good and ours. What can Congress do about them? They should take away Musk's contracts with the government especially since he supposedly will be working with the government. That is a massive conflict of interest, but I am guessing Republicans won't care one bit about that and will be OK with Musk taking over our government, a whiny one-time illegal immigrant who bought his way into citizenship, but clearly cares nothing for this nation, unlike the desperate people crossing our southern border, people who actually do care about this nation. Ugh!
Here is the facts. Congress will do nothing because it will be Trump's Congress.
Congress is the House and the Senate.. The House is basically controlled by the Speaker, the Speaker in the 118th Congress is Mike Johnson, and I am of the opinion that Matt Gaetz will be the speaker in the 119th Congress
The Senate: for the Senate to rubber stamp Trump requires 60 votes, Republicans will have 57,. I say that there are more than three Senators who will roll over like dogs to get their belly scratched.
The team around Trump, pushing Project 2025, are knowledgeable, connected and skilled in the workings of the beltway, and Project 2025 is the blueprint for shit canning the constitution and replacing with a theocratic oligarchy and apparently headed by Elon Musk, Trump's co president..
It doesn't matter what you, I or anyone thinks of Musk, Trump, his cabal, the only thing that matters is how to resist him and them.
It's hard to know what these criminals are plotting, but we know that revenge is a driving force for the narcissistic sociopaths now in control of our government. tRump may use Gaetz via a recess appointment to do his dirtiest of dirty work and then at the end of the 200+ days, knowing that confirmation would be highly unlikely, dump Gaetz and nominate some other criminal. Let the low-life Gaetz do his bidding, Gaetz avoids the report of his degenerate behavior, resigns - and then what? Governor of Florida? Re-elected to the House or Senate from Florida? Appointed to something else by tRump?
As for Gabbard and Putin - your guess is a reasonable one; there seem to be several "transactional" things going on with Putin and tRump and the MAGAts; Melania might be part of that whole "arrangement" given all of the history, murky, shady, full of deceptions.
My hope is that the idiocracy - to use that silly word - that put these people in power, aka effected the coup, the overthrow of our government - have to suffer more than the rest of us do as this whole horrific set of events unfolds, but that is the nature of stupidity: the stupid make us all suffer for their stupidity.
There is no mystery what this ant humans have in mind for the rest of us.
It is laid out in plain sight for us to read. Ali Velshi did a whole week or two going through it chapter be chapter, a page a day. https://www.project2025.org/
Trump and Gaetz have game planned how he will become Speaker of the House.
Idiocracy is not crazy word. It is the title of a movie, I have a CD, you can buy it on Amazon, it was produced by 20th Century Fox, and distributed, but when Trump was elected they pullled it from distribution, you can still buy the CD
Not arguing with you, William Farrar, and hope you're not misinterpreting my comments.
I didn't say idiocracy is a "crazy word" but that it is a silly word. I think it has the potential to minimize the horrors being put into effect, but I'm not opposed to using the word, nor other words that might capture what is now in progress.
I'll look for the movie of that title that you mention, but honestly, we seem to be living it IN it right now.
Keep up the good work, William Farrar. We're all in "the resistance" now.
I have no opinion on the word Idocracy other than it is perfect to desiribe the present. You will enjoy the movie. In it the President is a Trumpian figure, and they are starving because they water the fields with the equivalent of Gator Aid, the hero's are time travelers, and convert the system to water, are caught and are condemned to death treason, saved at the last moment, when it is discovered that the water indeed makes vegetables grow.
Actually those who know Matt Gaetz - Rick Wilson, for example, - say he is very smart, but that he is a very "bad guy." He is that horrifying combination of mental and moral rot and intelligence.
As for Gaetz being confirmed or not, tRump will name him in "recess appointment" and that gives Gaetz some 200+ days as AG before needing confirmation; plenty of time to do the most evil deeds percolating in tRump's vile mind, a mind equated by the sick depravity of Matt Gaetz's mind.
Tim Miller and Rick Wilson held a conversation on "The Bulwark" which you can see on YouTube, a conversation that was terrifying in part because they know these people and have known them for a long time, not only Gaetz and tRump, but also those called "Republicans" and the MAGAts. It's a terrifying future.
Annie, I can't help but ask, where were those guys who supposedly knew Trump so well when he was running for office, when they should have been shouting to the world just what they knew about Trump. A conversation among friends doesn't cut it. Maybe it would have helped, though I suspect the Trumpers and Trumpettes would have voted for the jerk anyway because they couldn't possibly vote for a woman, and a Black/South Asian woman at that. They would rather have a white male criminal who proposes to destroy our nation than a great woman. It is startling the hatred people, mostly white people, have for women and people of color in general. Those folks aren't even slightly ashamed of the behavior of their chosen Republican leaders, guys and a few women who are willing to stand against our Constitution to defend a whiny toddler-man, Trump, and his cadre of sycophants who would do their voters harm if it meant they would gain something from the act. It really is disgusting and very depressing.
Re-reading your post, Ruth, and I will add that I think the "Trumpers" and "Trumpettes" have shown quite decisively that they do not care whether Trump or Gaetz or Vance or Cash Patel or any of the crowd of pirates, criminals, predators and con-artists have done the disgusting, illegal, sadistic and obscene things they have done. In fact, they seem to celebrate it. It is beyond the comprehension of most of us and I continue to wonder how it came to be that some 50% of this country's voters in 2024 think all of that is OK and hate the country that is their and our, home so much to want to destroy it. The problems are deeper than most of us want to even consider.
Annie, I think it stems from the racism, misogyny, xenophobia, and more that have been percalating for generations, never dealt with effectively in a positive way, just either ignored or enhanced by those who find hatred a cherished quality even while calling themselves christians. It really is pretty disgusting, but I do not know how to reach those who are lost in the hatred, anger, fear, and resentment that a bunch of scared white people, mostly men, but certainly not all men, have pushed on the people of this country. So many white folks can't even imagine seeing other people as equal to their white selves. And, even women, Trumpettes, are OK with and practice misogyny on their sisters along with their racism and the rest. I don't think any of them wishes to change since change is so hard for people even though it is the one constant in life. Ugh!
I am not an expert on those guys, but from all I can tell Tim Miller and certainly Rick Wilson HAVE been speaking out against Trump from before 2016. Rick Wilson wrote the book entitled, perfectly, "Everything Trump Touches Dies" and he is from Florida and has spoken out about the Gaetz power and influence in that state for some time apparently. Tim Miller, an ex-Republican - "ex" since Trump - has been involved in The Bulwark which has been outspoken and active against Trump, albeit populated by Republicans. I think they were mostly distressed by what Trump and his crime organization have done to the party they once were dedicated to, but they are also alarmed and disgusted by what that change has done to the country.
I think, but am not sure, that Rick Wilson is also involved in The Lincoln Project, a Republican (or erstwhile Republican) campaign against Trump and MAGA.
Your question is a good one, and it is peripherally related to what (to me anyway) is an even bigger question NOW and that is, for just one example, how can the weasel Mike Johnson, with his ever-present unctuous "touched by an angel, ain't I" smirk, continue to defend, protect, and deceive on behalf of the lowest of the low - and still pose as some pious beatific representative of celestial goodness. Translation: a quintessential creep, hypocrite and one who would have been thrown out of the temple, if one believes in such things (which Mike Johnson claims he does as he hides behind his phony, phony sanctimonious BS.)
Back to Tim Miller and Rick Wilson, I don't think they were just having a conversation between friends and neither did they avoid speaking out against Trump back during his political campaigns, and likewise for other MAGA candidates; they have been speaking out from the get-go and I only mention them because they were early "adopters" and long-time Republicans. Same with Stuart Stevens, a very smart long-time Republican, who has minced no words from the get-go of Trump and MAGA. I think they are as disheartened and infuriated as any of us non-Republicans are.
Again, I'm no expert on ex-or current Republicans and certainly MAGA (which sounds a lot like a disease that needs treatment. "Got MAGA? Talk to your doctor!" and ask for MAGAxyermterofibia!"
Yep, it is all disgusting. Trump wants to degrade and degrade and degrade and push everything and everybody to get them to be as low, vile and despicable as he is. I think his self-loathing is killing us all. We must not let him drag us down. Hang in there, Ruth Sheets. Disgusting, yes. Try not to let the "very depressing" win out!
Annie, I don't know much about Miller and Wilson, and I read a lot and try to stay up with things. Their voices were not very loud back in the day and I am guessing few heard or cared about what they were saying. How could they tell the truth about the Republican reality TV star and great businessman? People had bought and paid for the BS Trump and his cronies were putting out because they wanted to believe it. Trump was a terrible president, but the fans gave him another term so the destruction he couldn't manage the first time can be done in the second term. That is appalling, but Trumpers, Trumpettes, and our media seem to love it because they neglected to present Trump as the fool he is, pretending he was somehow equal in ability to Biden, then Harris when he was no such thing and they knew it. Trump's sycophants learned quickly how to bamboozle the American people and nearly half of us voted for that jerk and because of that, we will all pay big.
Smart or not, who ever is AG has to have some gravitas, some background in the law, Gaetz has none.
Think about this. Trump and Gaetz were on the plane together, The plane lands and Trump announces Gaetz as AG, Gaetz resigns. The House committee is about to release it's report on the results of the investigation of the ethics committee. The ethics committee is f Republicans, 5 Democrats, The chair is a Republican, the Ranking committee member a Democrat (Susan Wild)
Gaetz resigns, the report is no released it is now under the control of the Speaker. It will stay "secret", parts have been leaked of course, but nothing official.
Trump needs someone of the calibre of Bill Barr as AG, to shepherd his dictatorship through the corridors of DC, and the consitution, and the institution.
Gaetz is not that man, he needs someone with experience in that matter, not someone with a law degree and no connections.
No one in DC, not even in Congress, likes or respects him, except Trump
The only congress critter that Trump can really depend on is Gaetz, and he makes a perfect Speaker of the House, he knows the routine.
I could be wrong, I am marking November 15 on the calendar as the day I predict Gaetz will withdraw from nomination as AG, be sworn in again on Jan 3rd as a member of the 119th Congressional Congress, and with Trump pushing it, be elected Speaker of the House.
It was all plotted aboard AF One, on Nov 13th
If I am wrong I will admit it
Yes if the Senate Democrats don't agree to speedy nominations, and they are saying that they will, there will be recess appointments.
The Senate Democrats know that Trump will get his picks anyway, so why further antagonize him by holding them up, they are after all politicians, looking out for themselves.
By agreeing to speedy confirmations they are participating voluntarily in the speedy deconstruction of our Democratic Republic., and givin the fascist dictatorship smooth waters to sail over.
William, I hope you do prove wrong about Senate Democrats. It seems to me every single one of them needs to do everything in their power to prevent incompetent a-holes from being in charge of anything in our government. If they put up no resistance, Trump will know for sure he can walk all over them and break as many laws as he chooses. Our media still isn't getting the word out strongly enough about who and what Gates is, who and what RFK,Jr. is and what he could do to their health, and who and what that Fox big mouth scheduled for Dept. of Defense is and how little knowledge he has about anything beyond whining about Democrats and in favor of his Baby Donnie. Then, there's Musk and the group of men who are too rich for their own good and ours. What can Congress do about them? They should take away Musk's contracts with the government especially since he supposedly will be working with the government. That is a massive conflict of interest, but I am guessing Republicans won't care one bit about that and will be OK with Musk taking over our government, a whiny one-time illegal immigrant who bought his way into citizenship, but clearly cares nothing for this nation, unlike the desperate people crossing our southern border, people who actually do care about this nation. Ugh!
Ruth, nobody wants me to be wrong, more than I.
Here is the facts. Congress will do nothing because it will be Trump's Congress.
Congress is the House and the Senate.. The House is basically controlled by the Speaker, the Speaker in the 118th Congress is Mike Johnson, and I am of the opinion that Matt Gaetz will be the speaker in the 119th Congress
The Senate: for the Senate to rubber stamp Trump requires 60 votes, Republicans will have 57,. I say that there are more than three Senators who will roll over like dogs to get their belly scratched.
The team around Trump, pushing Project 2025, are knowledgeable, connected and skilled in the workings of the beltway, and Project 2025 is the blueprint for shit canning the constitution and replacing with a theocratic oligarchy and apparently headed by Elon Musk, Trump's co president..
It doesn't matter what you, I or anyone thinks of Musk, Trump, his cabal, the only thing that matters is how to resist him and them.
A new dawn is arising, and that day will be ugly.
It's hard to know what these criminals are plotting, but we know that revenge is a driving force for the narcissistic sociopaths now in control of our government. tRump may use Gaetz via a recess appointment to do his dirtiest of dirty work and then at the end of the 200+ days, knowing that confirmation would be highly unlikely, dump Gaetz and nominate some other criminal. Let the low-life Gaetz do his bidding, Gaetz avoids the report of his degenerate behavior, resigns - and then what? Governor of Florida? Re-elected to the House or Senate from Florida? Appointed to something else by tRump?
As for Gabbard and Putin - your guess is a reasonable one; there seem to be several "transactional" things going on with Putin and tRump and the MAGAts; Melania might be part of that whole "arrangement" given all of the history, murky, shady, full of deceptions.
My hope is that the idiocracy - to use that silly word - that put these people in power, aka effected the coup, the overthrow of our government - have to suffer more than the rest of us do as this whole horrific set of events unfolds, but that is the nature of stupidity: the stupid make us all suffer for their stupidity.
There is no mystery what this ant humans have in mind for the rest of us.
It is laid out in plain sight for us to read. Ali Velshi did a whole week or two going through it chapter be chapter, a page a day. https://www.project2025.org/
Trump and Gaetz have game planned how he will become Speaker of the House.
Idiocracy is not crazy word. It is the title of a movie, I have a CD, you can buy it on Amazon, it was produced by 20th Century Fox, and distributed, but when Trump was elected they pullled it from distribution, you can still buy the CD
https://www.amazon.com/Idiocracy-DVD/dp/B0CW27HS59/ref=sr_1_2?crid=397DB8G004UL1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.glmuETHZ187B1FD4lADNFg8D89i5O9ZcNDUjSC9r_dH1E26lgzcg0rVuJvSzkqgtv2aa1A7rjbyrrfom15blg4gheUn3jouShSt8dP_OQtHb1di8KOoRnd3lE5z9kTOBlVu1cwHxD6ZWbitrfB6kUdVq6N7J9PIQqGYym1FPjWO7rCN6Pe4P2rFCef1OwRQtiNpqJ9BSJedacEDkNSWF8xMhfExY7z2oQ2tAVScAspM.5S9Y5oxycd0RWaSAPMaBZ1b2Bm0LHJWho4ERYU8VLsc&dib_tag=se&keywords=idiocracy&qid=1731793498&sprefix=id%2Caps%2C2342&sr=8-2
Not arguing with you, William Farrar, and hope you're not misinterpreting my comments.
I didn't say idiocracy is a "crazy word" but that it is a silly word. I think it has the potential to minimize the horrors being put into effect, but I'm not opposed to using the word, nor other words that might capture what is now in progress.
I'll look for the movie of that title that you mention, but honestly, we seem to be living it IN it right now.
Keep up the good work, William Farrar. We're all in "the resistance" now.
I have no opinion on the word Idocracy other than it is perfect to desiribe the present. You will enjoy the movie. In it the President is a Trumpian figure, and they are starving because they water the fields with the equivalent of Gator Aid, the hero's are time travelers, and convert the system to water, are caught and are condemned to death treason, saved at the last moment, when it is discovered that the water indeed makes vegetables grow.