Actually, AT THIS POINT, we will all benefit if we do NOT let Republicans take the White House or Congress in November. We will all benefit if we vote blue.
Absolutely, even though Democrats make huge mistakes, they are not trying to undo our entire government and usher in an autocracy.
Actually, AT THIS POINT, we will all benefit if we do NOT let Republicans take the White House or Congress in November. We will all benefit if we vote blue.
Absolutely, even though Democrats make huge mistakes, they are not trying to undo our entire government and usher in an autocracy.
OH, yes, disagree with Dems and point out where they are going astray. That’s a good thing, and we need to keep it up way past just the election, so we can get some things addressed that badly need addressing.
Don’t for a minute, though, think Republicans would do better — especially not in this day and age.
Couple of questions or you, Janet:
1. You watched Obama sell out to Wall Street? Do you mean the bailout that was voted in by Republicans in the Bush administration {which for the record BROUGHT ON the crash of 2008, before Obama ever set foot in office}, and that bailout was passed on to Obama in his first months in office, with no provisions made to help homeowners or other non-rich people? Do you mean there was no money in that REPUBLICAN-CREATED recovery package for homeowners whose lives were upended by the Financial Industry, which then tried to put all the blame on those very homeowners for taking out loans that the Financial Industry perverted ….? You mean that? {Hint: that was a Right Wing contrivance!}
Now, I DO think Obama had too many Wall Street types in his administration and on his cabinet, and I say it all the time. Criticizing Democratic heroes is not a bad thing. But to get literally ANYTHING done on health care, Obama had to give in to Republican demands that the plan include prerogatives for the insurance industry, and STILL the Rs did not vote for it!! Do you mean THAT when you criticize him?
If you mean something else, be specific, please …
2. Bill Clinton DID sell out to the bankers on welfare reform. Ostentatiously and horribly. I hate that and criticize him all the time. That and on criminal justice changes he made that were horrendous. AND YET, you said Clinton sold out TO the people on welfare. Did you mean he betrayed people on welfare and sold them out? Because he did NOT provide poor people with anything of value, nothing that hard-working poor people deserve …He did no sell out TO them!
So, was that a misstatement? Or, if you meant it, please be specific.
BECAUSE, sure it’a fine to criticize how the Dems are handling things—- but how about you do it accurately, with some specifics, and some thoughts on what they could have done better.
Otherwise, you just come off like a crank or a troll. I don’t think you want to sound that way.
Instead of a 600 page monster of ACA. All it took was athree word change to the Medicare enabling legislation and that is "eligible at birth"
Voila, problem solved, but Rahm Emanuel, a neo liberal and privatizer, did not allow any single payor advocates into the White House when discussions about the ACA were going on and neither did Nancy Pelosi allow any debate.
There is a reason, the Association of Health Insurance Providers(AHIP) are deep pockets, as is PhRMA.
Money talks, politicians walk. And the problem is compounded because most congress critters have investment portfolios, with insurance and PhRMA stocks, not to mention insider trading.
Nancy and Barak excluded single payor from imput and discussions.
All the most-heard voices dissed single payer health insurance -- until Bernie got a voice -- even people who should have known better dissed it.
I agree there was not full-throated support of a health care system that wan't based on for-profit care and insurance companies.
I think Democrats MIGHT have heard reason if they had not been working for bi-partisanship with Republicans, but maybe I'm crazy.
I know that Democrats are not trying to dismantle the Constitution and usher in even greater migration of wealth to Oligarchs and bring us into a new age of Robber Barons and Autocrats.
The Heritage Societies template for changing our government, and their plan for next year {2025} are primary in my sights at the moment. ,
I ALWAYS make a point of pointing out {!!} that we can't only care about our government once every four years and expect anything to get better.
But we had better NOT try to get through the NEXT four years with the weight of Donald J. Trump and the Oligarchs dragging us under.
VOTE BLUE
And keep arguing your guts out to make the Dems and th Left better -- but Vote Blue.
Whoa, that’s just not true.
Actually, AT THIS POINT, we will all benefit if we do NOT let Republicans take the White House or Congress in November. We will all benefit if we vote blue.
Absolutely, even though Democrats make huge mistakes, they are not trying to undo our entire government and usher in an autocracy.
OH, yes, disagree with Dems and point out where they are going astray. That’s a good thing, and we need to keep it up way past just the election, so we can get some things addressed that badly need addressing.
Don’t for a minute, though, think Republicans would do better — especially not in this day and age.
Couple of questions or you, Janet:
1. You watched Obama sell out to Wall Street? Do you mean the bailout that was voted in by Republicans in the Bush administration {which for the record BROUGHT ON the crash of 2008, before Obama ever set foot in office}, and that bailout was passed on to Obama in his first months in office, with no provisions made to help homeowners or other non-rich people? Do you mean there was no money in that REPUBLICAN-CREATED recovery package for homeowners whose lives were upended by the Financial Industry, which then tried to put all the blame on those very homeowners for taking out loans that the Financial Industry perverted ….? You mean that? {Hint: that was a Right Wing contrivance!}
Now, I DO think Obama had too many Wall Street types in his administration and on his cabinet, and I say it all the time. Criticizing Democratic heroes is not a bad thing. But to get literally ANYTHING done on health care, Obama had to give in to Republican demands that the plan include prerogatives for the insurance industry, and STILL the Rs did not vote for it!! Do you mean THAT when you criticize him?
If you mean something else, be specific, please …
2. Bill Clinton DID sell out to the bankers on welfare reform. Ostentatiously and horribly. I hate that and criticize him all the time. That and on criminal justice changes he made that were horrendous. AND YET, you said Clinton sold out TO the people on welfare. Did you mean he betrayed people on welfare and sold them out? Because he did NOT provide poor people with anything of value, nothing that hard-working poor people deserve …He did no sell out TO them!
So, was that a misstatement? Or, if you meant it, please be specific.
BECAUSE, sure it’a fine to criticize how the Dems are handling things—- but how about you do it accurately, with some specifics, and some thoughts on what they could have done better.
Otherwise, you just come off like a crank or a troll. I don’t think you want to sound that way.
Pat I disagree with you on health care and Obama.
Instead of a 600 page monster of ACA. All it took was athree word change to the Medicare enabling legislation and that is "eligible at birth"
Voila, problem solved, but Rahm Emanuel, a neo liberal and privatizer, did not allow any single payor advocates into the White House when discussions about the ACA were going on and neither did Nancy Pelosi allow any debate.
There is a reason, the Association of Health Insurance Providers(AHIP) are deep pockets, as is PhRMA.
Money talks, politicians walk. And the problem is compounded because most congress critters have investment portfolios, with insurance and PhRMA stocks, not to mention insider trading.
Nancy and Barak excluded single payor from imput and discussions.
All the most-heard voices dissed single payer health insurance -- until Bernie got a voice -- even people who should have known better dissed it.
I agree there was not full-throated support of a health care system that wan't based on for-profit care and insurance companies.
I think Democrats MIGHT have heard reason if they had not been working for bi-partisanship with Republicans, but maybe I'm crazy.
I know that Democrats are not trying to dismantle the Constitution and usher in even greater migration of wealth to Oligarchs and bring us into a new age of Robber Barons and Autocrats.
The Heritage Societies template for changing our government, and their plan for next year {2025} are primary in my sights at the moment. ,
I ALWAYS make a point of pointing out {!!} that we can't only care about our government once every four years and expect anything to get better.
But we had better NOT try to get through the NEXT four years with the weight of Donald J. Trump and the Oligarchs dragging us under.
VOTE BLUE
And keep arguing your guts out to make the Dems and th Left better -- but Vote Blue.