I sent this letter to the SCOTUS. We need to insist that Trump appointees and Thomas recuse themselves from ruling on Trump...
Supreme Court of the United States
1 First Street, NE.
Washington, DC 20543
In my opinion, those of you who were appointed by the former president should recuse yourselves from weighing in on the matter of presidential immunity in all cases where he is a defendant.
Unless you do, any decision that you hand down in his favor has the potential to mark you in the annals of history as “bought and paid for” and as co-equal conspirators against the democratic republic that we call the United States of America.
Read the January 6th report, peopled by folks from his own administration sounding the alarm about his malfeasance while in the highest office in the land. Do the right thing for the Constitution of the United States.
No man is above the law. Trump’s alleged actions before, during, and after the attempted coup implicate him six ways from Sunday. Listen to his own feeble ramblings, and his attorney’s, stating that he should be able to order the assassination of political rivals with impunity unless Congress (most of whom on the right are scared spitless of him and the potential for his cult to attack them) puts him on trial and finds him guilty.
I am fully aware that it will be perilous for you to do the right thing, but only by doing the right thing can this domestic assault on our most cherished ideals be defeated.
Sincerely,
Kris M Smith
Voter-Patriot-Activist
P.S. Justice Clarence Thomas should also recuse himself because of the activities his wife Ginny allegedly undertook during the January 6th fomentation, according to reputable news sources.
Feel free to send a duplicate or one like it under your name! The more they get, the more powerful it will be!
Question: If you were going in for brain surgery to have a tumor removed and your choices of who would do the procedure were a surgeon who has over 40 years of experience or a surgeon just out of college who would you choose? That’s our choice this November! A man who has over 40 years experience in politics or Trump!
1. Putin - How about the thousands of Russians openly risking prison to support Navalny?
1. a. How about the hope that “several” House Republicans are willing to sign a discharge petition to force Maga Mike to bring a national security supplemental measure to the floor for a vote?
1 b.. What if the senators who support Putin had to face recall petitions as a result?
2. Supreme Court -- It's clear they are an obstacle. The only way we can ensure a win is at the polls and the best hope is to expand out base. Robert and Heather could be taking the income disparity issue to the lumpen in states where they don't have billionaires instead of preaching to the choir. States like WVA, where there is open resentment of the wealthy. Take some field trips to places like Charleston, WVA. They have a senate election. Unless something is done, we lose a senate seat.
We also should be aware that Gen Z can swing the election.
2a. Yesterday we had a discussion on Thom Hartmann. . Is It Time to Hold Possible Co-Conspirator Ginni Thomas Accountable? I've been asking why Garland doesn't go after the low hanging fruit before the statute of limitations run.
What most struck me about this morning’s discussion was Reich dismissing democracy as a campaign issue, portraying it, admittedly justifiably, as an abstraction for most people and Reich then simply moving on.
I would submit we have to drive home what it would mean to lose our democracy and how our way of life would change. Trump already has stated he would enact the Insurrection Act on Day 1 of his presidency. He’s already spoken about rounding up his political enemies. Imagine what America would look like were the President to start moving the army around to put down our voices, our right to protest policy with which we disagree, perhaps jailing us. This is not without precedent. Trump had wanted to criminalize protests around Black Lives Matter for the murder of George Floyd.
I would note I’ve barely touched upon rights and freedoms that would be ripped away nor have I even mentioned women losing control of their bodies, or what it would mean were we unable to depend on an independent judiciary (we’re already starting to see what that would look like), or depend on the rule of law, or an independent justice department, or an independent Federal Communications Commission—all things Trump has said he would do, and I’m just getting started.
I chose "Dems and Independents will defeat it, But all of the above works too, except MAGAs will take over the 'Republican' party ' that has already happened!
All of the Above, and know they are ruthless and cunning. There is no line, no moral nor ethical boundary they will not cross. Their cruelty, their lying and cheating, their intimidation, their violence, and their destruction of everyone and everything good, is their thrilling badge of honor. This is life or death to them, well to their super-egos. We have only seen the tip of the iceberg of their insanity.
There is so much more to come. We will have to help ground each other, so our fears and anger and divisions don't overcome us. We will need every bit of strength, energy, and rational and strategic thinking to overcome them.
Also, look for Putin to bail Trump out of his $500 million corruption fines, just as Putin did in 2008 for his failing businesses by (1) ordering Russian banks to lend Trump money when western banks refuse, and/or (2) sending oligarchs to buy Trump's failing assets at twice the market value. (Remember Dmitry Rybolovlev who bought Trump's derelict Palm Beach $41M mansion for $95M?).
The Trumpist wing of the Republican party has already taken it over; that is not something in the future. As such it certainly threatens American democracy not just this election year but for the indefinite future, as long as the Republican party remains in this form and that promises to be a long time. It will not revert to even its Reagan past, let alone its Eisenhower past. But it is not just American democracy that it threatens but whatever remains of "order" in the "international order". Trump has already abandoned Europe and democracies everywhere and whoever is his MAGA successor will continue that stand. So, the future of the world, that is any kind of future worth having, is at stake. Please remember that the Nazis came to power in Germany in 1932 by winning just 38% of the vote. This allowed them to take power as the most powerful party in the Parliament, and then a few months later Hitler staged a coup against the constitution, assuming total control, ending the Wiemar republic. How different is that from what Trump attempted in his first term and his announced plans for his second? Anyone who is complacent about the future of America and the world has been doing a Rip Van Winkle sleep-a-thon.
IT WILL FAIL. To quote Liz Cheney, “ Tonight , I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain”
A new Russian - American -Chineese and eastern Europe Mob is Born after pandemic that will try to undermine US democracy with A.i. desinformacion and at other Latin American countries trough adoctrinacion of the poorest to become usefull Idiots to Use them to instigate confrontation not to solve their dispar or inequality but to simply use them as pawns in a eath west unnecessary lack of reasonable stable governance
The problem of distance. If anyone of us was transported into Gaza and saw and felt the horror, we would be so overcome by it-by Israel's disproportionate leveling slaughter-complete wipe out ...that policy words would escape us we would say oh the extreme inhumanity! Israeli media does not show the true horror to Israelis...but those who have dared to go in are just overwhelmed.
Ever so often Putin likes to rattle the West monkey cage and see the monkeys go ape. He feels it gives him some leverage to blunt Western measures. What else can you do with nuclear weapons except use them or threaten governments with them?
Why would the SCOTUS take Trump's Immunity case? The 3 member panel of DC Court of Appeals heard the case and made a unanimous decision. Nobody, including the President, is above the law. So why is SCOTUS taking the case? Is it political, substantive or both?
All I can figure is that some members of the SCOTUS would like to argue the case widely, and not the narrow specifics of the case. For instance, what if the President ordered waterboarding to save the counrty from a terrorist threat? If this is their reasoning, they are creating a hypothetical situation that ultimately leads to "legislating from the bench." Regardless, now that the SCOTUS is going to hear the case, they must present a strong reason to hear the case.
I do not think this is possible, unless they make the matter a very wide interpretation of Presidential immunity. Are we going to hear them wax poetically about the Unitary Executive Theory? It's possible. "Former White House Counsel John Dean explains: "In its most extreme form, unitary executive theory can mean that neither Congress nor the federal courts can tell the President what to do or how to do it, particularly regarding national security matters." [Wiki]
Given the circumstances and timeline to the election, I do not think it's appropriate or ethical to have a wider discussion about Presidential immunity in hypocritical situations. If a President really believes the waterboarding is necessary to prevent a terrorists attack, is a narrow decision by the DC Court of Appeals going to stop him or her? I think not.
I think the SCOTUS made a bad decision to hear the case. I believe that unless the SCOTUS makes a solid case to question the lower courts decision, the SCOTUS will be seen as playing politics and further erode Americans trust in the Supreme Court. I am very interested to hear HOW, WHY, and WHEN the SCOTUS believes that a President MAY be above the law. And if the SCOTUS makes a determination that in certain situations the President MAY have immunity, it sets a very dangerous president that the POTUS IS a above the law at times. I think it can be argued that by hearing the case, the SCOTUS is entertaining the idea that the three branches of government are not equal because the Executive is not ALWAYS bound by, and subject to, the Legislative and Judicial branches. This is a perilous argument for the SCOTUS.
And why hasn't Thomas recused himself? Is it possible that if Thomas recused himself then the SCOTUS would not have the number of Justices needed to hear the case? I believe Joyce Vance wrote it was 5, but I could be wrong. I am interested to hear why the Justices want to hear the case in the first place. I wonder if Justices have asked Thomas about his wife's involvement in J6? If so, did he tell them that she was busy at Social Security for Embryos Conference? Lol.
I sent this letter to the SCOTUS. We need to insist that Trump appointees and Thomas recuse themselves from ruling on Trump...
Supreme Court of the United States
1 First Street, NE.
Washington, DC 20543
In my opinion, those of you who were appointed by the former president should recuse yourselves from weighing in on the matter of presidential immunity in all cases where he is a defendant.
Unless you do, any decision that you hand down in his favor has the potential to mark you in the annals of history as “bought and paid for” and as co-equal conspirators against the democratic republic that we call the United States of America.
Read the January 6th report, peopled by folks from his own administration sounding the alarm about his malfeasance while in the highest office in the land. Do the right thing for the Constitution of the United States.
No man is above the law. Trump’s alleged actions before, during, and after the attempted coup implicate him six ways from Sunday. Listen to his own feeble ramblings, and his attorney’s, stating that he should be able to order the assassination of political rivals with impunity unless Congress (most of whom on the right are scared spitless of him and the potential for his cult to attack them) puts him on trial and finds him guilty.
I am fully aware that it will be perilous for you to do the right thing, but only by doing the right thing can this domestic assault on our most cherished ideals be defeated.
Sincerely,
Kris M Smith
Voter-Patriot-Activist
P.S. Justice Clarence Thomas should also recuse himself because of the activities his wife Ginny allegedly undertook during the January 6th fomentation, according to reputable news sources.
Feel free to send a duplicate or one like it under your name! The more they get, the more powerful it will be!
Christian Nationalism is the biggest threat to our democracy.
Question: If you were going in for brain surgery to have a tumor removed and your choices of who would do the procedure were a surgeon who has over 40 years of experience or a surgeon just out of college who would you choose? That’s our choice this November! A man who has over 40 years experience in politics or Trump!
1. Putin - How about the thousands of Russians openly risking prison to support Navalny?
1. a. How about the hope that “several” House Republicans are willing to sign a discharge petition to force Maga Mike to bring a national security supplemental measure to the floor for a vote?
1 b.. What if the senators who support Putin had to face recall petitions as a result?
2. Supreme Court -- It's clear they are an obstacle. The only way we can ensure a win is at the polls and the best hope is to expand out base. Robert and Heather could be taking the income disparity issue to the lumpen in states where they don't have billionaires instead of preaching to the choir. States like WVA, where there is open resentment of the wealthy. Take some field trips to places like Charleston, WVA. They have a senate election. Unless something is done, we lose a senate seat.
We also should be aware that Gen Z can swing the election.
2a. Yesterday we had a discussion on Thom Hartmann. . Is It Time to Hold Possible Co-Conspirator Ginni Thomas Accountable? I've been asking why Garland doesn't go after the low hanging fruit before the statute of limitations run.
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What most struck me about this morning’s discussion was Reich dismissing democracy as a campaign issue, portraying it, admittedly justifiably, as an abstraction for most people and Reich then simply moving on.
I would submit we have to drive home what it would mean to lose our democracy and how our way of life would change. Trump already has stated he would enact the Insurrection Act on Day 1 of his presidency. He’s already spoken about rounding up his political enemies. Imagine what America would look like were the President to start moving the army around to put down our voices, our right to protest policy with which we disagree, perhaps jailing us. This is not without precedent. Trump had wanted to criminalize protests around Black Lives Matter for the murder of George Floyd.
I would note I’ve barely touched upon rights and freedoms that would be ripped away nor have I even mentioned women losing control of their bodies, or what it would mean were we unable to depend on an independent judiciary (we’re already starting to see what that would look like), or depend on the rule of law, or an independent justice department, or an independent Federal Communications Commission—all things Trump has said he would do, and I’m just getting started.
Maga cretins must be solidly vanquished at the polls
I chose "Dems and Independents will defeat it, But all of the above works too, except MAGAs will take over the 'Republican' party ' that has already happened!
All of the Above, and know they are ruthless and cunning. There is no line, no moral nor ethical boundary they will not cross. Their cruelty, their lying and cheating, their intimidation, their violence, and their destruction of everyone and everything good, is their thrilling badge of honor. This is life or death to them, well to their super-egos. We have only seen the tip of the iceberg of their insanity.
There is so much more to come. We will have to help ground each other, so our fears and anger and divisions don't overcome us. We will need every bit of strength, energy, and rational and strategic thinking to overcome them.
Also, look for Putin to bail Trump out of his $500 million corruption fines, just as Putin did in 2008 for his failing businesses by (1) ordering Russian banks to lend Trump money when western banks refuse, and/or (2) sending oligarchs to buy Trump's failing assets at twice the market value. (Remember Dmitry Rybolovlev who bought Trump's derelict Palm Beach $41M mansion for $95M?).
The Trumpist wing of the Republican party has already taken it over; that is not something in the future. As such it certainly threatens American democracy not just this election year but for the indefinite future, as long as the Republican party remains in this form and that promises to be a long time. It will not revert to even its Reagan past, let alone its Eisenhower past. But it is not just American democracy that it threatens but whatever remains of "order" in the "international order". Trump has already abandoned Europe and democracies everywhere and whoever is his MAGA successor will continue that stand. So, the future of the world, that is any kind of future worth having, is at stake. Please remember that the Nazis came to power in Germany in 1932 by winning just 38% of the vote. This allowed them to take power as the most powerful party in the Parliament, and then a few months later Hitler staged a coup against the constitution, assuming total control, ending the Wiemar republic. How different is that from what Trump attempted in his first term and his announced plans for his second? Anyone who is complacent about the future of America and the world has been doing a Rip Van Winkle sleep-a-thon.
IT WILL FAIL. To quote Liz Cheney, “ Tonight , I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain”
A new Russian - American -Chineese and eastern Europe Mob is Born after pandemic that will try to undermine US democracy with A.i. desinformacion and at other Latin American countries trough adoctrinacion of the poorest to become usefull Idiots to Use them to instigate confrontation not to solve their dispar or inequality but to simply use them as pawns in a eath west unnecessary lack of reasonable stable governance
The problem of distance. If anyone of us was transported into Gaza and saw and felt the horror, we would be so overcome by it-by Israel's disproportionate leveling slaughter-complete wipe out ...that policy words would escape us we would say oh the extreme inhumanity! Israeli media does not show the true horror to Israelis...but those who have dared to go in are just overwhelmed.
Putin has threatened use of nuclear weapons in the past around this war, perhaps not so explicitly.
https://www.vox.com/world/2022/9/21/23364683/russia-mobilization-war-ukraine-nuclear-threats-putin-speech
Ever so often Putin likes to rattle the West monkey cage and see the monkeys go ape. He feels it gives him some leverage to blunt Western measures. What else can you do with nuclear weapons except use them or threaten governments with them?
Why would the SCOTUS take Trump's Immunity case? The 3 member panel of DC Court of Appeals heard the case and made a unanimous decision. Nobody, including the President, is above the law. So why is SCOTUS taking the case? Is it political, substantive or both?
All I can figure is that some members of the SCOTUS would like to argue the case widely, and not the narrow specifics of the case. For instance, what if the President ordered waterboarding to save the counrty from a terrorist threat? If this is their reasoning, they are creating a hypothetical situation that ultimately leads to "legislating from the bench." Regardless, now that the SCOTUS is going to hear the case, they must present a strong reason to hear the case.
I do not think this is possible, unless they make the matter a very wide interpretation of Presidential immunity. Are we going to hear them wax poetically about the Unitary Executive Theory? It's possible. "Former White House Counsel John Dean explains: "In its most extreme form, unitary executive theory can mean that neither Congress nor the federal courts can tell the President what to do or how to do it, particularly regarding national security matters." [Wiki]
Given the circumstances and timeline to the election, I do not think it's appropriate or ethical to have a wider discussion about Presidential immunity in hypocritical situations. If a President really believes the waterboarding is necessary to prevent a terrorists attack, is a narrow decision by the DC Court of Appeals going to stop him or her? I think not.
I think the SCOTUS made a bad decision to hear the case. I believe that unless the SCOTUS makes a solid case to question the lower courts decision, the SCOTUS will be seen as playing politics and further erode Americans trust in the Supreme Court. I am very interested to hear HOW, WHY, and WHEN the SCOTUS believes that a President MAY be above the law. And if the SCOTUS makes a determination that in certain situations the President MAY have immunity, it sets a very dangerous president that the POTUS IS a above the law at times. I think it can be argued that by hearing the case, the SCOTUS is entertaining the idea that the three branches of government are not equal because the Executive is not ALWAYS bound by, and subject to, the Legislative and Judicial branches. This is a perilous argument for the SCOTUS.
And why hasn't Thomas recused himself? Is it possible that if Thomas recused himself then the SCOTUS would not have the number of Justices needed to hear the case? I believe Joyce Vance wrote it was 5, but I could be wrong. I am interested to hear why the Justices want to hear the case in the first place. I wonder if Justices have asked Thomas about his wife's involvement in J6? If so, did he tell them that she was busy at Social Security for Embryos Conference? Lol.