Rob, I think there is an additional piece to the Hispanic puzzle in Florida. The white Cubans want to be seen in this country as white and despite rich white people claiming they have no privilege, they do have privilege, and the white Cubans want that. I suspect they think if they vote along with the privileged white folks they will b…
Rob, I think there is an additional piece to the Hispanic puzzle in Florida. The white Cubans want to be seen in this country as white and despite rich white people claiming they have no privilege, they do have privilege, and the white Cubans want that. I suspect they think if they vote along with the privileged white folks they will be included as the Irish, Italians, and Eastern Europeans were a century ago. They probably will be because the white population is increasingly becoming a smaller and smaller majority. I think the white Cubans are making a mistake going in the direction of supporting the DeSantis crowd, but as you say, they are stuck in the 1950s and can't get past it and DeSantis and friends are very willing to exploit it, and everyone loses.
When the communists ousted Batista in 1959 a bunch of white Cuban's fled to Miami, which was SEGREGATED at that time. Of all the Cubans I know here only one was black (and I met him thru his Puerto Rican wife). I have been to crumbling Havana a few years ago and that's where all the black Cubans are. BTW, I have encountered racist Cubans when I lived in Hialeah in the '70s. Tho Hispanic, it appears they are the same as all the other Southerners in Dixie.
Rob, to let you know how ignorant I was until I was grown, I didn't even know about Black Cubans. I had never met one although I had met many white Cubans. How is it I didn't know when I knew slavery was big on the island. We gave haven to the white Cubans, but not so much to the Black Cubans. And, I have heard white Cuban racism is as well entrenched as that of the confederates. Just pay attention to Ted Cruz. How sad to come to a country so you can put all your hometown racism to work here too.
I had suspicions for years. Every time LIFE magazine or National Geographic did a feature on Cuba, there were lots of black ppl in the background. Since living in Miami, it is almost all white Cubans you see. Just a remnant of the ugly history of the 1960s Cold War era. I do have lots of Cuban-American friends here who are actually liberal and respect blacks & gays & other ppl out of favor in the last century. When I first got here in the '70s there were Cuban terrorists bombing anyone who did not support hard-line anti-socialist views.
We knew that many in the Cuban community want a caudillo and long for the days when they had absolute control over minorities. Thus los pendejos DeSantis and Rubio.
But I am also pissed at Blacks and other minorities for not voting. I am pissed at BLM for giving Florida to that mentality by endorsing the Cuban government over the dissidents in Cuba, who happen to be 99% Black. I am pissed at Bernie for his complete ignorance about Cuba, I am pissed at the DNC, with whom I spoke, for pulling out support for local candidates in Miami Dade. I am pissed that we didn't have viable candidates to run against Gutierrez and Mario Diaz-Balart. I'm also pissed at myself for spending time and money on dead losers' when I should have spent it on Ohio, Georgia, Nevada and Aridzona.
Rob, I think there is an additional piece to the Hispanic puzzle in Florida. The white Cubans want to be seen in this country as white and despite rich white people claiming they have no privilege, they do have privilege, and the white Cubans want that. I suspect they think if they vote along with the privileged white folks they will be included as the Irish, Italians, and Eastern Europeans were a century ago. They probably will be because the white population is increasingly becoming a smaller and smaller majority. I think the white Cubans are making a mistake going in the direction of supporting the DeSantis crowd, but as you say, they are stuck in the 1950s and can't get past it and DeSantis and friends are very willing to exploit it, and everyone loses.
When the communists ousted Batista in 1959 a bunch of white Cuban's fled to Miami, which was SEGREGATED at that time. Of all the Cubans I know here only one was black (and I met him thru his Puerto Rican wife). I have been to crumbling Havana a few years ago and that's where all the black Cubans are. BTW, I have encountered racist Cubans when I lived in Hialeah in the '70s. Tho Hispanic, it appears they are the same as all the other Southerners in Dixie.
Rob, to let you know how ignorant I was until I was grown, I didn't even know about Black Cubans. I had never met one although I had met many white Cubans. How is it I didn't know when I knew slavery was big on the island. We gave haven to the white Cubans, but not so much to the Black Cubans. And, I have heard white Cuban racism is as well entrenched as that of the confederates. Just pay attention to Ted Cruz. How sad to come to a country so you can put all your hometown racism to work here too.
I had suspicions for years. Every time LIFE magazine or National Geographic did a feature on Cuba, there were lots of black ppl in the background. Since living in Miami, it is almost all white Cubans you see. Just a remnant of the ugly history of the 1960s Cold War era. I do have lots of Cuban-American friends here who are actually liberal and respect blacks & gays & other ppl out of favor in the last century. When I first got here in the '70s there were Cuban terrorists bombing anyone who did not support hard-line anti-socialist views.
I agree with everything Rob says.
We knew that many in the Cuban community want a caudillo and long for the days when they had absolute control over minorities. Thus los pendejos DeSantis and Rubio.
But I am also pissed at Blacks and other minorities for not voting. I am pissed at BLM for giving Florida to that mentality by endorsing the Cuban government over the dissidents in Cuba, who happen to be 99% Black. I am pissed at Bernie for his complete ignorance about Cuba, I am pissed at the DNC, with whom I spoke, for pulling out support for local candidates in Miami Dade. I am pissed that we didn't have viable candidates to run against Gutierrez and Mario Diaz-Balart. I'm also pissed at myself for spending time and money on dead losers' when I should have spent it on Ohio, Georgia, Nevada and Aridzona.
That is very interesting! I have been trying to understand the Latino vote in Florida, but haven't made any sense of until now.