If Dominion wins the lawsuit then part of the settlement should specify that they make a statement of transparency about the aforementioned litigation they lost and why.
When Dominion wins this suit, Fox News must be designated as "entertainment" and have a crawl at the bottom of the screen announcing that no one should consider Fox News a credible source of information.
American's are being lied to. That happens in Russia, not here--until Fox news.
Most Fox viewers never change the channel. They don't know it's all a lie. The only way to break the cult like hold is to stop Fox News.
The GOP has been in a battle for survival for 40 years now, as American demographics have shifted. For the last 10 years, it has been a battle to the death; GOP vs Democracy.
"An evil GOP enemy will burn his own nation to the ground .. just to rule over the ashes."
My two cents: IMHO, most of you nailed it. As long as there’s big money to be made by selling lies, weaponizing Trump viciousness, and peddling conspiracy theories, Fox News will continue to do it. The network will appeal any verdict that goes against it, and even if it ultimately loses on the law it will negotiate damages lower than $1.6 billion — and quickly make it up in future revenue. Rupert Murdoch doesn’t give a fig about the public interest or even the opinion of most of the public as long as he can continue to inject profitable toxins into the brains of his viewers (and readers). And he has rounded up sufficiently venal and unprincipled hosts — Tucker Carlson et al — who will also sell dangerous lies as long as they make big bucks doing so.
Advertisers don’t care, either, as long as Fox News viewers continue to watch the network’s appalling content.
The basic question here is whether lawmakers are willing — and courts are willing to let them — impose any special responsibilities on cable networks, as they did with the old “fairness doctrine” as once applied to broadcasters who utilized the public spectrum. I doubt it.
Wish I could be more optimistic about this, but profiting off of dangerous lies has become a big business in America. This is one of the core challenges to the future of democracy.
In Canada, Canadian Radio-television Commission regulations prohibitive the publishing of false news. This regulation, on the books since the 1980's in Canada, would have resulted in the removal of licence from FOX news. In the US, opinion Trumps the truth.
I’m obviously an optimist but I’m hoping that there will be a judgement beyond monetary payments that Fox News is required to admit to lying about the election on every show that claimed otherwise.
As for for compensation I hope there’s a hefty punitive penalty that will wipe out Rupert and his faux news empire.
He/they have plenty of money to burn… what about the other like right outlets? Are they telling the truth? Even the national enquirer is skewed as we just learned with the recent trump stuff..all seems to be geared at working class and low income folks that instead of realizing who’s actually screwing them want to churn hate with these guys.. I find giving Jared Kushner and team info on BIDEN’s commercials before they would air during his campaign so trumps team could whip something up is part of manipulating the vote .. Until we have accountability in journalism and the lies are punished as well as criminal laws that are beyond a slap on the wrist for knowingly lying at this scale and until all this dark money and lobbying will be illegal, nothing will change … but I do feel hopeful these days that it does seem, slowly, that justice will be served - just have to stay on track !
As lying to their audience is part and parcel of the Murdochs' business model across brands (they do it in England too, they do it in Australia as well) they must continue to do it in the US. Predictably just a matter of time before they're caught once more. Perhaps Australia can call Rupert home?
Their content will be dominated by pieces about the First Amendment being “under attack.” There will be no need to even mention Dominion. They will dredge up any story involving a gag order or hate speech prosecution they can find.
The $billion dollar fine will, I fear be simply a cost of doing business for Fox.
The United States operates a two-tier system of “justice”. One that kills teenagers eating a sandwich in a car and another that provides comfort and never ending free passes to those the Attorney General deems to be “too powerful” or who are in, or are running for, elected office. So Fox will likely amp up its lying rhetoric and continue to black out any news of their complicity with Trump’s corruption and his attempted coup d’etat.
Unless the Fairness Doctrine is re-imposed on “news” organizations and we have a DOJ willing and able to actually enforce the law, the likes of Fox will continue to obtain free passes to poison the minds of millions.
William Joyce (“Lord Haw Haw”) was an Irish-American who broadcast from Germany (“Garmany Calling…Garmany calling) during WW2 lies and propaganda. He was captured by British troops, extradited to the UK for trial, found guilty of treason, and executed. What Fox does and has done to sow violent division in the US deserves no less a fate but at the very least a DOJ willing to hold “news” organizations accountable for the violence they promote and egg on through their lies. Fox, like many of its adherents in the GOP, hide behind the First Amendment or the “speech and debate” clause for Congress. Yet their speech is dishonest, indecent, designed to enflame violence and tear apart an entire nation. For what Fox has done and continues to do their broadcasters, executives and board must be held accountable and pay by losing ALL of their freedoms for the rest of their sordid lives.
I don’t imagine the outcome of the Dominion defamation lawsuit will have any meaningful impact on Fox, dare I say, News’ so-called bread and butter— namely to consolidate its orthodoxy into the official view of reality from which any deviation becomes unpatriotic heresy. Its viewers, an indoctrinated people fed only on partisan information and opinion that confirm their own bias, will continue, largely, to listen only to each other.
If Dominion wins the lawsuit then part of the settlement should specify that they make a statement of transparency about the aforementioned litigation they lost and why.
When Dominion wins this suit, Fox News must be designated as "entertainment" and have a crawl at the bottom of the screen announcing that no one should consider Fox News a credible source of information.
American's are being lied to. That happens in Russia, not here--until Fox news.
Most Fox viewers never change the channel. They don't know it's all a lie. The only way to break the cult like hold is to stop Fox News.
The GOP has been in a battle for survival for 40 years now, as American demographics have shifted. For the last 10 years, it has been a battle to the death; GOP vs Democracy.
"An evil GOP enemy will burn his own nation to the ground .. just to rule over the ashes."
- Sun Tzu
My two cents: IMHO, most of you nailed it. As long as there’s big money to be made by selling lies, weaponizing Trump viciousness, and peddling conspiracy theories, Fox News will continue to do it. The network will appeal any verdict that goes against it, and even if it ultimately loses on the law it will negotiate damages lower than $1.6 billion — and quickly make it up in future revenue. Rupert Murdoch doesn’t give a fig about the public interest or even the opinion of most of the public as long as he can continue to inject profitable toxins into the brains of his viewers (and readers). And he has rounded up sufficiently venal and unprincipled hosts — Tucker Carlson et al — who will also sell dangerous lies as long as they make big bucks doing so.
Advertisers don’t care, either, as long as Fox News viewers continue to watch the network’s appalling content.
The basic question here is whether lawmakers are willing — and courts are willing to let them — impose any special responsibilities on cable networks, as they did with the old “fairness doctrine” as once applied to broadcasters who utilized the public spectrum. I doubt it.
Wish I could be more optimistic about this, but profiting off of dangerous lies has become a big business in America. This is one of the core challenges to the future of democracy.
RR
In Canada, Canadian Radio-television Commission regulations prohibitive the publishing of false news. This regulation, on the books since the 1980's in Canada, would have resulted in the removal of licence from FOX news. In the US, opinion Trumps the truth.
I’m obviously an optimist but I’m hoping that there will be a judgement beyond monetary payments that Fox News is required to admit to lying about the election on every show that claimed otherwise.
As for for compensation I hope there’s a hefty punitive penalty that will wipe out Rupert and his faux news empire.
But as I said, I’m an optimist.
He/they have plenty of money to burn… what about the other like right outlets? Are they telling the truth? Even the national enquirer is skewed as we just learned with the recent trump stuff..all seems to be geared at working class and low income folks that instead of realizing who’s actually screwing them want to churn hate with these guys.. I find giving Jared Kushner and team info on BIDEN’s commercials before they would air during his campaign so trumps team could whip something up is part of manipulating the vote .. Until we have accountability in journalism and the lies are punished as well as criminal laws that are beyond a slap on the wrist for knowingly lying at this scale and until all this dark money and lobbying will be illegal, nothing will change … but I do feel hopeful these days that it does seem, slowly, that justice will be served - just have to stay on track !
As lying to their audience is part and parcel of the Murdochs' business model across brands (they do it in England too, they do it in Australia as well) they must continue to do it in the US. Predictably just a matter of time before they're caught once more. Perhaps Australia can call Rupert home?
Is it too naive to think it will slowly slither away because ‘it is not about red or blue--it is about green’?
I’ve been calling them #PoxNews for decades because
Fox News is a
Pox on humanity
Spewing crafted lies
Through a tool named Hannity
A decade from now, let’s hope there will be conversations like this:
“My brother told me there used to be this network called Fox. That’s where the Simpsons came from!”
Their content will be dominated by pieces about the First Amendment being “under attack.” There will be no need to even mention Dominion. They will dredge up any story involving a gag order or hate speech prosecution they can find.
I Hope they are subject to huge punitive damages. Money is the only language Murdoch listens
The $billion dollar fine will, I fear be simply a cost of doing business for Fox.
The United States operates a two-tier system of “justice”. One that kills teenagers eating a sandwich in a car and another that provides comfort and never ending free passes to those the Attorney General deems to be “too powerful” or who are in, or are running for, elected office. So Fox will likely amp up its lying rhetoric and continue to black out any news of their complicity with Trump’s corruption and his attempted coup d’etat.
Unless the Fairness Doctrine is re-imposed on “news” organizations and we have a DOJ willing and able to actually enforce the law, the likes of Fox will continue to obtain free passes to poison the minds of millions.
William Joyce (“Lord Haw Haw”) was an Irish-American who broadcast from Germany (“Garmany Calling…Garmany calling) during WW2 lies and propaganda. He was captured by British troops, extradited to the UK for trial, found guilty of treason, and executed. What Fox does and has done to sow violent division in the US deserves no less a fate but at the very least a DOJ willing to hold “news” organizations accountable for the violence they promote and egg on through their lies. Fox, like many of its adherents in the GOP, hide behind the First Amendment or the “speech and debate” clause for Congress. Yet their speech is dishonest, indecent, designed to enflame violence and tear apart an entire nation. For what Fox has done and continues to do their broadcasters, executives and board must be held accountable and pay by losing ALL of their freedoms for the rest of their sordid lives.
Hopefully Fox News will be required to air the truth about this issue. Otherwise I will assume it will be business as usual at fox news.
I don’t imagine the outcome of the Dominion defamation lawsuit will have any meaningful impact on Fox, dare I say, News’ so-called bread and butter— namely to consolidate its orthodoxy into the official view of reality from which any deviation becomes unpatriotic heresy. Its viewers, an indoctrinated people fed only on partisan information and opinion that confirm their own bias, will continue, largely, to listen only to each other.
My prediction?
Fox Rues their hosts' behavior
Fox Hews to the Court's penalties
Fox Views diminish … SLOWLY
Fox Sues their own hosts for damages
Fox Dues get paid to the public. Finally.