Kevin forgot a few things. If you make a deal with the Devil, the Devil comes to collect. If you negotiate with terrorists, the terrorists up their demands. And finally, when you show yourself to be untrustworthy and a frequent bad faith actor, people don't trust you and know your word is worthless. And now Kevin McCarthy gets his just desserts. If he was smart, he would quit and make his successor's job even tougher with an even slimmer majority.
But as a practical matter, Dems need to coalesce around someone who could conceivably be a competent Speaker in order to protect the integrity of the institution. Our country can't afford to have a wounded dysfunctional House of Representatives for the next 15 months.
Since Republicans have a majority, they are entitled to the Speakership. But it needs to be someone who's non-MAGA Republican and respected by both sides. There are actually a few who fit the bill.
As many readers here know, I represent a network of ordinary citizens who've been advocating for removing and replacing Kevin McCarthy since January. We're now half-way there!!
In as much as Adam Kinzinger would be a valuable asset to the speakership, no republican will vote for him. Unfortunately, republicans think that standing up for the United States of America and determining what exactly happened on the day Trump's cult attacked our House is a very bad thing and have turned their collective backs on the true republicans that stood up and said 'No More'!
Adam Kinzinger would be an excellent choice but if course that would never happen and with the current state of disfunction I seriously doubt he'd take it if offered.
His problem is he can't corral any MAGA votes, & probably a lot of the other Republicans.
I think many Democrats would vote for him if he were nominated because of all his fine work with the January 6th Committee, but I'm not sure of that since up till now they've been steadfastly united in support of Hakeem Jeffries (who I really hope manages to become Speaker despite Democrats being in the minority, which could happen if enough Republicans abstained from voting, which I suppose could happen if the leading Republican wasn't popular enough).
Well, the majority margin is SO slim, that a Republican "turncoat", with the support of the great majority of the Democratic members of the House, plus those few Republicans with ordinary political principles, COULD elect a Adam K, or better yet (IMHO) Liz Cheney to Speaker. (And I don't think of her as an Angel, but DO respect her principles!
I've been waiting for at least one of the 18 Republicans that represent districts won by Biden in 2020 to step forward.
So far, crickets.
So the demand is ALL the democrats to vote for any candidate who will agree to name a few Democrats as chairs of some of the committees. Who wants to be speaker if only queen (or king) for a day?
Yes, I thought there was an opportunity for that when McCarthy was struggling through his 15 votes: put up a _moderate_ Republican who's willing to work across party lines (starting by dropping the Hastert Rule), and enough Democrats would vote for that Speaker that Gaetz and company can go pound sand. We could try it again now.
Not only would this get the Speaker's seat filled quickly, but it would be a Speaker explicitly committed to bipartisanship and (dare I say it?) actually getting laws passed, rather than performative partisan posturing. Which we'll desperately need in order to pass twelve budget bills in the next six weeks.
That probably amounts to no more than wishful thinking,, but we'll see.
We're probably just as likely to end up with someone as disastrous as Jordan, MTG or Gosar. I think they all voted to keep McCarthy, yet they all have strong ties to the extremists, especially Gosar. Can you imagine any of them being Speaker? Ugh!
Why? The 118th Congress has been dysfunctional from day one. They have passed no useful legislation, most of what they did passed died in the intelligent Senate. The Democrats can still invoke the Constitution to end the stupid "use the debt ceiling to close the Government" without a Speaker and we do have Hakeem Jeffries.
.....yes, the perfect opportunity to break from Trump, but that's not what motivates the sponsors of this move. Some mysterious forceful faction within the GOP must emerge at this moment with the "magic" to capture a new way of walking for the party--could happen, but not the normal unfold of the GOP. Actually, the same could be said for the Dems; do they have the cajones to fast-track Gavin Christopher Newsom ? Again, similar to the GOP, Newsom could solve so many campaign problems, and for the long-term.
My extended family lives in CA, as do many friends. They voted for him in that landslide—but not enthusiastically. Their alternative was the Republican.
as they did with McCarthy initially--stay out of it and do not vote for Speaker. The only reason to change this tactic would be if a pitential Speaker were to make promises to the Dems to key principles. That won't happen. Ultimately the chaos will make its way back to the voters. They have the power to fix this dysfunction. And that depends on their allegiance to Trump.
They voted consistently for Jeffries as Speaker, & they should continue to do so, at least until & unless a candidate comes who is moderate & bipartisan enough to work with Democrats, if such a person exists, which I frankly see no sign of among House Republicans.
My concern is that this is a Brer Rabbit moment. The fox has been convinced to throw Mr. Rabbit back into the briar patch, therefore helping him escape from the fox’s clutches. CNA the lack of a Speaker of the House shut down the system as well?
You wrote "some kind of moderate, sane Republican" - what were you thinking?
After my initial exuberance at the thought - since elsewhere I've just heard that DJT's name has been floated - that since the Speaker DOESN'T have to be even a member of Congress, that Liz Cheney would be an excellent choice, as a Republican, I realized that there probably aren't ANY sitting Republican members of the House of Representatives that could bring themselves to vote for her, or Kinzinger. So, only if enough Republican Congress "critters" (as Jim Hightower calls them sometimes) only voted "Present", could the Democrats elect the Speaker, possibly Hakeem Jeffries.
Wow. Is that true? Awful. They are a nasty bunch. Patrick McHenry is the interim and he is the guy in a bowtie who may have had some trouble lifting the gavel, but after raising it high brought it down HARD at the end of the session. Looks like he's trying to appear tough and maybe vie for the speakership. If he is evicting Nancy Pelosi, he is like trump who tried for a very long time to evict an elderly property owner in Atlantic City when he was trying to get her out of the way of his (failed) casino.
Patrick McHenry: give me liberty, or just give me a whole lot of power! See me? I'm wearing a bowtie! I'm tough.
Really? No respect for someone far more respectable than he..
Another name I hadn't heard before today... er, I guess it's now yesterday. Every new Republican I learn about is at least as bad as the ones I already know about.
How did he become assigned as interim Speaker? By vote of the Republican Caucus? So then he may have a leg up on potential competitors.
True. She’s been in CA—she flew here with Dianne Feinstein’s body and will stay through the lying in state and the funeral. So she’s directed her staff to pack up the office.
McHenry is violating a long-term tradition. Pelops I allowed Denny Hastert to keep his hideaway office when she became Speaker the first time. But McHenry is just petty like that.
What you say is of course spot on. ...Except those "principles" so far don't seem to apply to The Donald. Just remarkable, what 35% of "us" are willing to be comfortable with/settle for. Just remarkable. Pathetic.
Adolph Hitler’s portion of the vote in Germany in 1932 that placed him in a position to snatch the chancellorship was 36.8. (c/o HCR’s Democracy Awakening, Foreward, first page). We are at the tipping point, staring into the abyss.
Times were much tougher for German voters then economically, and the Weimar Republic was short-lived between 2 wars. Germans didn't have the historic tradition we have. All in our favor. Having said that, we are approaching Civil War territory in terms of difficulty governing if Dems don't win 2024 across the board. We also face multiple attacks from foreign agents. Social media is as bad or worse than ever, and AI will be used nefariously.
Sadly, no one who should step down for bad, unethical, corrupt behavior, or bad health seems to consider the common good, their primary responsibility as elected leaders to The House and Senate.
So true!!! McCarthy's word has been worthless!! Flying down to Mar A Lago to kiss the emperor's ring was one of his most embarrassing and shameful exhibitions!!!
So true!! McCarthy's word has routinely been worthless!! He stands for nothing...except the selfish desire of having the title "Speaker of the House" next to his name. His tenure has been shameful and cowardly!! Laughably, now he's gone there are Republicans wanting to put the very definition of damaged goods D. Trump's name forward for the speakership! Reportedly Trump won't take it if offered. Thank goodness for THAT mercy!! Now if the Republicans can get their act together and find a more suitable presidential candidate...one can only hope!!!...although it's unlikely...what an epic mess!!!
Well deserved for bowing down to #TraitorTrump after January 6th, for his Benghazi hearings to take down Clinton & for his fake Biden impeachment hearings.
I think it would be very entertaining to see Bobo Boebert in the role. Downright comical. The first speaker of the House to ever need 4 attempts to pass her GED!
No, no no! I thought the same thing when Trump first ran for president. Well I suppose it was entertaining at times it was a cluster that has had a horrific impact on our democracy, on the lives of women and our relationship with the rest of the world.
Good one, Meredith! She's an airhead and a bitch but her looks got her to where she is. I wouldn't take her home to Mom and Dad, but she might do in a pinch.
As a journalist, and no fan of corporate media, I must take issue. I think Trumpism taps into something much deeper than self-serving, right-wing media hype. Racism, insecurity, fear. We've seen it before, around the world, the hunger for a dictator to protect white supremacy, to blame problems on "them," others such as immigrants, non-white citizens, liberals, Democrats, people like Robert Reich.
Completely agree! White supremacy is at the core of the identity of the MAGATs and they are incapable of willfully separating from that. To do so would fracture their personalities as to induce drooling insanity. This will not end smoothly nor from changing clowns in the car.
Exactly. Fear is the chief driving force behind this movement; fear and lust for power by those who are feeding the fear. Over the last 40 years the legs of effective government have been slowly weakened and are now in the process of being knocked out from under us completely. Remember, there are those who would love to see our government small enough to drown in a bathtub. What they fail to add is, said government would be so small that the new rulers of this country could then run roughshod over any and all who would be left behind for them to rule over. I’m not sure what use the Kochs and their ilk would do with the husk that would be left, because this country isn’t the flag, the pledge or anything else physical but this country is a free and diverse people; always has been, always will be.
That was my exact thought since 2016: The Gop is the party of terrified children awaid of women so they sexually assault them, awaid of children . . . so they sexually assault them, afwaid of non-white humans so they try to get EVERYONE ELSE afwaid of them too, and afwaid of the 99% so they try to kill them. [sic]
I think that was the point of the original post you responded to in this thread. A bubble has been crested for these people. They are literally brainwashed.
That is the WHOLE issue. Russian philosophers told us a long time ago that America is NOT a democracy. (Actually, under our system of campaign contributions today, it is an oligarchy). Our enemies observed that the American people are so completely absorbed in their own personal pursuits, mainly of wealth or just keeping a roof over their families ...they have no time to participate in the operation of their government. This is the weakness that our enemies hope to leverage to do as they promised ...take down America from the inside. They said the American people will cut down the Stars and Stripes themselves, and on Jan. 6, the Trumpite militia did exactly that. They took down our flag and raised a Trump flag in its place over our Capitol. As an observer for over 30 years (reporter), I don't think that the American people realize that our nation is under attack. "If we don't hang together, we shall surely all hang separately." This is the "common good" that Reich and others stress. There are smart and principled people out there. If they don't step up, and if we don't step up to put aside our personal pursuits long enough to support them ...Hail Atlantis!
You make a good point, thanks. I do find it interesting that no one has yet mentioned the elephant in the room, the reactionary Christian Biblical interpretations that almost invariably are mentioned as the ultimate justification for all this bad behavior by MAGA followers. "It's in the Bible, so that's ok with me". Meaning mysogyny, slavery, murder, war, tribal loyalty over justice, homophobia and more.
But I'm pretty sure he wants to be the next Speaker. You can tell from photos from yesterday and today. Smug @#$%^. Someday we'll look back at a timetable dating from the campaign of 2015 to the day before the end of the world, and all of us idiots will say, "Gosh, why didn't we do something sooner?"
Although I think Gaetz has no chance of becoming Speaker for having created so many enemies among his Republican colleagues & having no allies among Democrats, I agree with your sentiment. I think some people who are just as bad like MTG, Gosar & Jordan each have a conceivable chance of becoming next Speaker, & any of them would be disastrous.
I don't know when the shift happened, from governing and compromise and using the best ideas from both sides of the aisle....to a scorched earth, extremist, brinkmanship, holding congress hostage. Let's start with making Congress great again. Also, technically, Donald Trump could be nominated for Speaker of the House. Send in the clowns, they're already here.
Kevin forgot a few things. If you make a deal with the Devil, the Devil comes to collect. If you negotiate with terrorists, the terrorists up their demands. And finally, when you show yourself to be untrustworthy and a frequent bad faith actor, people don't trust you and know your word is worthless. And now Kevin McCarthy gets his just desserts. If he was smart, he would quit and make his successor's job even tougher with an even slimmer majority.
"untrustworthy and a frequent bad faith actor, people don't trust you and know your word is worthless." That describes the entire party.
I can't disagree, dogant.
But as a practical matter, Dems need to coalesce around someone who could conceivably be a competent Speaker in order to protect the integrity of the institution. Our country can't afford to have a wounded dysfunctional House of Representatives for the next 15 months.
Since Republicans have a majority, they are entitled to the Speakership. But it needs to be someone who's non-MAGA Republican and respected by both sides. There are actually a few who fit the bill.
As many readers here know, I represent a network of ordinary citizens who've been advocating for removing and replacing Kevin McCarthy since January. We're now half-way there!!
Learn more here: www.FeathersOfHope.net or jerryweiss.substack.com
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How about Adam Kinzinger? There is no rule that says the speaker has to be currently serving in the House.
In as much as Adam Kinzinger would be a valuable asset to the speakership, no republican will vote for him. Unfortunately, republicans think that standing up for the United States of America and determining what exactly happened on the day Trump's cult attacked our House is a very bad thing and have turned their collective backs on the true republicans that stood up and said 'No More'!
Adam Kinzinger would be an excellent choice but if course that would never happen and with the current state of disfunction I seriously doubt he'd take it if offered.
His problem is he can't corral any MAGA votes, & probably a lot of the other Republicans.
I think many Democrats would vote for him if he were nominated because of all his fine work with the January 6th Committee, but I'm not sure of that since up till now they've been steadfastly united in support of Hakeem Jeffries (who I really hope manages to become Speaker despite Democrats being in the minority, which could happen if enough Republicans abstained from voting, which I suppose could happen if the leading Republican wasn't popular enough).
I don't believe MAGA would vote for Kinzinger because they do not want the cult members to turn on them.
Well, the majority margin is SO slim, that a Republican "turncoat", with the support of the great majority of the Democratic members of the House, plus those few Republicans with ordinary political principles, COULD elect a Adam K, or better yet (IMHO) Liz Cheney to Speaker. (And I don't think of her as an Angel, but DO respect her principles!
And Adam Kinzinger has been threatened, along with his family.
Exactly what I was about to say!
???
I've been waiting for at least one of the 18 Republicans that represent districts won by Biden in 2020 to step forward.
So far, crickets.
So the demand is ALL the democrats to vote for any candidate who will agree to name a few Democrats as chairs of some of the committees. Who wants to be speaker if only queen (or king) for a day?
Yes, I thought there was an opportunity for that when McCarthy was struggling through his 15 votes: put up a _moderate_ Republican who's willing to work across party lines (starting by dropping the Hastert Rule), and enough Democrats would vote for that Speaker that Gaetz and company can go pound sand. We could try it again now.
Not only would this get the Speaker's seat filled quickly, but it would be a Speaker explicitly committed to bipartisanship and (dare I say it?) actually getting laws passed, rather than performative partisan posturing. Which we'll desperately need in order to pass twelve budget bills in the next six weeks.
That probably amounts to no more than wishful thinking,, but we'll see.
We're probably just as likely to end up with someone as disastrous as Jordan, MTG or Gosar. I think they all voted to keep McCarthy, yet they all have strong ties to the extremists, especially Gosar. Can you imagine any of them being Speaker? Ugh!
Why? The 118th Congress has been dysfunctional from day one. They have passed no useful legislation, most of what they did passed died in the intelligent Senate. The Democrats can still invoke the Constitution to end the stupid "use the debt ceiling to close the Government" without a Speaker and we do have Hakeem Jeffries.
I'm 100% with you, Fay!
.....yes, the perfect opportunity to break from Trump, but that's not what motivates the sponsors of this move. Some mysterious forceful faction within the GOP must emerge at this moment with the "magic" to capture a new way of walking for the party--could happen, but not the normal unfold of the GOP. Actually, the same could be said for the Dems; do they have the cajones to fast-track Gavin Christopher Newsom ? Again, similar to the GOP, Newsom could solve so many campaign problems, and for the long-term.
Newsom? Ugh. Talk about bad faith. A slick, handsome, corporate Democrat.
That must be why he was reelected by a landslide.
My extended family lives in CA, as do many friends. They voted for him in that landslide—but not enthusiastically. Their alternative was the Republican.
Couldn't disagree more. Dems should do
as they did with McCarthy initially--stay out of it and do not vote for Speaker. The only reason to change this tactic would be if a pitential Speaker were to make promises to the Dems to key principles. That won't happen. Ultimately the chaos will make its way back to the voters. They have the power to fix this dysfunction. And that depends on their allegiance to Trump.
They voted consistently for Jeffries as Speaker, & they should continue to do so, at least until & unless a candidate comes who is moderate & bipartisan enough to work with Democrats, if such a person exists, which I frankly see no sign of among House Republicans.
I didn’t know that. 🤔
I didn’t know that Jerry Weiss represents a group of concerned citizens.
Good luck with your endeavours
Liz Cheney would be an excellent choice, also helping us to flush our system of trumpism
Excellent idea
She would do a good job but is in the same boat as Kinzinger!
Exactly!
“Chaos Caucus” would be a good name for the fascist Republicans we’re trying to name.
My concern is that this is a Brer Rabbit moment. The fox has been convinced to throw Mr. Rabbit back into the briar patch, therefore helping him escape from the fox’s clutches. CNA the lack of a Speaker of the House shut down the system as well?
I'm terrified someone will suggest Trump...
You wrote "some kind of moderate, sane Republican" - what were you thinking?
After my initial exuberance at the thought - since elsewhere I've just heard that DJT's name has been floated - that since the Speaker DOESN'T have to be even a member of Congress, that Liz Cheney would be an excellent choice, as a Republican, I realized that there probably aren't ANY sitting Republican members of the House of Representatives that could bring themselves to vote for her, or Kinzinger. So, only if enough Republican Congress "critters" (as Jim Hightower calls them sometimes) only voted "Present", could the Democrats elect the Speaker, possibly Hakeem Jeffries.
Most likely it will be someone even more conservative or radical than McCarthy.
But if no one was chosen by then, couldn't Democrats go on & pass an acceptable budget? It might be easier with Republicans so disunited.
Wow. Is that true? Awful. They are a nasty bunch. Patrick McHenry is the interim and he is the guy in a bowtie who may have had some trouble lifting the gavel, but after raising it high brought it down HARD at the end of the session. Looks like he's trying to appear tough and maybe vie for the speakership. If he is evicting Nancy Pelosi, he is like trump who tried for a very long time to evict an elderly property owner in Atlantic City when he was trying to get her out of the way of his (failed) casino.
Patrick McHenry: give me liberty, or just give me a whole lot of power! See me? I'm wearing a bowtie! I'm tough.
Really? No respect for someone far more respectable than he..
Another name I hadn't heard before today... er, I guess it's now yesterday. Every new Republican I learn about is at least as bad as the ones I already know about.
How did he become assigned as interim Speaker? By vote of the Republican Caucus? So then he may have a leg up on potential competitors.
True. She’s been in CA—she flew here with Dianne Feinstein’s body and will stay through the lying in state and the funeral. So she’s directed her staff to pack up the office.
McHenry is violating a long-term tradition. Pelops I allowed Denny Hastert to keep his hideaway office when she became Speaker the first time. But McHenry is just petty like that.
That is what a group of mainly Republicans and Christian right wing educators did to my husband.
What you say is of course spot on. ...Except those "principles" so far don't seem to apply to The Donald. Just remarkable, what 35% of "us" are willing to be comfortable with/settle for. Just remarkable. Pathetic.
Adolph Hitler’s portion of the vote in Germany in 1932 that placed him in a position to snatch the chancellorship was 36.8. (c/o HCR’s Democracy Awakening, Foreward, first page). We are at the tipping point, staring into the abyss.
Times were much tougher for German voters then economically, and the Weimar Republic was short-lived between 2 wars. Germans didn't have the historic tradition we have. All in our favor. Having said that, we are approaching Civil War territory in terms of difficulty governing if Dems don't win 2024 across the board. We also face multiple attacks from foreign agents. Social media is as bad or worse than ever, and AI will be used nefariously.
Voters need to wake up!
Also note "How Democracies Die" by Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt (2018), followed by their "Tyranny of the Minority".
He can thank Trump.
I would say we can thank Ronny Regean. Bunkerboy, ANOTHER dementia-addled c-list actor, is a DIRECT result of America settling for a dope.
The judge in the civil case against Trump didn't waste any time responding to his threats. Why
have the judges in the other cases taken so long
to shut him up???
It's always been pretty clear that Kev isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Were he smart, he'd be someone else.
Sadly, no one who should step down for bad, unethical, corrupt behavior, or bad health seems to consider the common good, their primary responsibility as elected leaders to The House and Senate.
Agreed, It is all starting to fall down. As you wrote, the Devil comes to collect. "No Free Lunch"!!!! Hopefully this miss wakes some people up.
Sorry, I don't believe it is "falling down" yet. It may get worse before it gets better. What if Jim Jordan becomes Speaker?
I believe we have to consider that "They" may take us all down with them
January 6th on Steroids!
Oh, God help us!
Jordan? Replace an unprincipled toadie with a certifiable lunatic? What a train wreck!
But that's the Republican Party for you. They go from bad to worse to worst.
So true!!! McCarthy's word has been worthless!! Flying down to Mar A Lago to kiss the emperor's ring was one of his most embarrassing and shameful exhibitions!!!
So true!! McCarthy's word has routinely been worthless!! He stands for nothing...except the selfish desire of having the title "Speaker of the House" next to his name. His tenure has been shameful and cowardly!! Laughably, now he's gone there are Republicans wanting to put the very definition of damaged goods D. Trump's name forward for the speakership! Reportedly Trump won't take it if offered. Thank goodness for THAT mercy!! Now if the Republicans can get their act together and find a more suitable presidential candidate...one can only hope!!!...although it's unlikely...what an epic mess!!!
Well deserved for bowing down to #TraitorTrump after January 6th, for his Benghazi hearings to take down Clinton & for his fake Biden impeachment hearings.
Lying Kevin deserves whatever Karma brings him.
Karma. Exactly what I was thinking.
There are plenty more idiots to take his place. Lauren Bobert, Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, et al. Will the American people ever grow up?
I think it would be very entertaining to see Bobo Boebert in the role. Downright comical. The first speaker of the House to ever need 4 attempts to pass her GED!
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No, no no! I thought the same thing when Trump first ran for president. Well I suppose it was entertaining at times it was a cluster that has had a horrific impact on our democracy, on the lives of women and our relationship with the rest of the world.
Just throwing it out on the table, Tim. Thanks for being cautious. I don't blame anyone for being cautious after the last 7 years.
Chuck Torres, You are being not nice.
Don't think it couldn't happen! I'd give a slightly higher probability for Jordan, Gosar or MTG, who are practically as bad.
Yes, it could happen. She would crumble under the pressure. Underneath her pretty face and body, is nothing of substance.
You need glasses!!
Funny thing Chuck, that adjective never comes to my mind when I look at her. Maybe if she took off her glasses…I guess a man would think so.
Good one, Meredith! She's an airhead and a bitch but her looks got her to where she is. I wouldn't take her home to Mom and Dad, but she might do in a pinch.
Yes, will they ever? They have to get off corporate media. Thanks
As a journalist, and no fan of corporate media, I must take issue. I think Trumpism taps into something much deeper than self-serving, right-wing media hype. Racism, insecurity, fear. We've seen it before, around the world, the hunger for a dictator to protect white supremacy, to blame problems on "them," others such as immigrants, non-white citizens, liberals, Democrats, people like Robert Reich.
Obama becoming president scared the hell out of the white supremacists. They lost their minds and Trump capitalized.
Right . When Obama won hate groups morphed as shown on a Southern Poverty Law map across the country like pus filled red pimples.
Completely agree! White supremacy is at the core of the identity of the MAGATs and they are incapable of willfully separating from that. To do so would fracture their personalities as to induce drooling insanity. This will not end smoothly nor from changing clowns in the car.
Exactly. Fear is the chief driving force behind this movement; fear and lust for power by those who are feeding the fear. Over the last 40 years the legs of effective government have been slowly weakened and are now in the process of being knocked out from under us completely. Remember, there are those who would love to see our government small enough to drown in a bathtub. What they fail to add is, said government would be so small that the new rulers of this country could then run roughshod over any and all who would be left behind for them to rule over. I’m not sure what use the Kochs and their ilk would do with the husk that would be left, because this country isn’t the flag, the pledge or anything else physical but this country is a free and diverse people; always has been, always will be.
That was my exact thought since 2016: The Gop is the party of terrified children awaid of women so they sexually assault them, awaid of children . . . so they sexually assault them, afwaid of non-white humans so they try to get EVERYONE ELSE afwaid of them too, and afwaid of the 99% so they try to kill them. [sic]
I hate to ❤️ your comment because you’re right. Got to keep that fear factor stoked at all costs. Otherwise the dweebs will figure it all out.
Agree on that point. And Fox "News" is the worst culprit.
I think that was the point of the original post you responded to in this thread. A bubble has been crested for these people. They are literally brainwashed.
We were pretty grown up until we elected Reagan and Wall St took over the country.
No significant signs of growing up yet revealed for the Rethugs and close to half the Dumbocrats. This wild party is just getting going.
I hope that they wake up and ditch these people and MTG and James Comer
Expel them to be precise. It's constitutionally mandatory.
If Shakespeare was alive think of the play he could have written
That is the WHOLE issue. Russian philosophers told us a long time ago that America is NOT a democracy. (Actually, under our system of campaign contributions today, it is an oligarchy). Our enemies observed that the American people are so completely absorbed in their own personal pursuits, mainly of wealth or just keeping a roof over their families ...they have no time to participate in the operation of their government. This is the weakness that our enemies hope to leverage to do as they promised ...take down America from the inside. They said the American people will cut down the Stars and Stripes themselves, and on Jan. 6, the Trumpite militia did exactly that. They took down our flag and raised a Trump flag in its place over our Capitol. As an observer for over 30 years (reporter), I don't think that the American people realize that our nation is under attack. "If we don't hang together, we shall surely all hang separately." This is the "common good" that Reich and others stress. There are smart and principled people out there. If they don't step up, and if we don't step up to put aside our personal pursuits long enough to support them ...Hail Atlantis!
You make a good point, thanks. I do find it interesting that no one has yet mentioned the elephant in the room, the reactionary Christian Biblical interpretations that almost invariably are mentioned as the ultimate justification for all this bad behavior by MAGA followers. "It's in the Bible, so that's ok with me". Meaning mysogyny, slavery, murder, war, tribal loyalty over justice, homophobia and more.
No tears for a sycophant bit by his own dog. I hope they keep reminding America why they cannot be trusted in government. Best campaign ad ever.
Benghazi
Benghazi
Benghazi 🤣
All Republicans in the house should be in jail for supporting Donald. He will join them soon
At the very least, one of McCarthy's allies should file a privileged motion to expel Matt Gaetz. I think it would pass overwhelmingly.
Absolutely. A two-for-one week. Historic.
Agreed. Expel Pervy McForehead and hope that he has an overdue mugshot in his future.
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But I'm pretty sure he wants to be the next Speaker. You can tell from photos from yesterday and today. Smug @#$%^. Someday we'll look back at a timetable dating from the campaign of 2015 to the day before the end of the world, and all of us idiots will say, "Gosh, why didn't we do something sooner?"
Although I think Gaetz has no chance of becoming Speaker for having created so many enemies among his Republican colleagues & having no allies among Democrats, I agree with your sentiment. I think some people who are just as bad like MTG, Gosar & Jordan each have a conceivable chance of becoming next Speaker, & any of them would be disastrous.
Great idea!!
They've been talking about it. Another motion that Democrats would be happy to join Republicans proposing it.
I’ve heard they’re working on it!
I wish for courage, but not from a single member in that crowd of crap.
I don't know when the shift happened, from governing and compromise and using the best ideas from both sides of the aisle....to a scorched earth, extremist, brinkmanship, holding congress hostage. Let's start with making Congress great again. Also, technically, Donald Trump could be nominated for Speaker of the House. Send in the clowns, they're already here.
That’s a horrifying thought!!