Good luck with that. Eileen Cannon is handling that case, and has been dragging her feet from the beginning; ruling on several motions in favor of Trump without cause.
She’s bought and paid for by Trump Inc. Expect that case to be shelved until after the election.
Since the GOP likes to lie and bear false witness and cheat, our commander in chief needs to unleash the military to protect the polling sites. Once a GOP gains control of our military, there is little hope of a decent future for our children or anyone else's on Earth. It is easy to create a hell on Earth and it is a lot harder to create a heaven on Earth. The GOP is incapable of connecting the dots.
Unfortunately, if we try to use the military, we’ll be accused of everything Trump has tried to do. I agree. Republicans are pulling out every stop:
They’re trying to manipulate the election at the state level. Gerrymandering, voter suppression, a complicit media ecosystem, including the purchase of MSM entities like The Baltimore Sun and Univision.
As usual, they have too many built in advantages that make it easier for Trump to prevail. These people do not play fair!….:)
Robert Jaffee: That is why our President should use executive orders to enforce the Constitution. We are in peril of being terrorized by a bully and his cabal. Judges are given offers they can't refuse! If you can buy it, you can control it. Justice is supposed to be a major guardrail against tyranny! Our Freedom is at stake! President Biden is our Commander in Chief!
A Slave who can't be beaten is half free! This is war! The recalcitrant judges need to get it together!,which side are they on! Are they helping tfg to steal our very country?
I agree, but there are so many executive orders a president can approve without being in contemptuous of existing immigration laws. Lawsuits will follow, and the orders stayed until they work themselves through the court system.
Even Trump lost several cases using executive orders. It’s not a panacea for congressional action. It’s a band aid….:)
Robert Jaffee ; But But But But But! I think it's time to take a chance! doing nothing does not look promising! Our legal system is a snake pit when it is played the way it has been lately! Laws are interpreted; The process does NOT have to be a snail pace that allows justice to be denied. I would personally like to kick the asses of these 'Judges' to wake them up. What are they getting out of this? Their own private island where they can hide the rest of their lives?
No, they don’t play fair but they complain if anything goes against *them*. Did you see how JD Vance was complaining that E. Jean Carroll’s verdict was “unfair.” All I could think was “Crybaby!”
Well sure. But the shrinking, Traitorous Trumplican MINORITY is just that: the MINORITY. If 30% of anti-Americans FEEEEEEL that justice is unfair, then it sucks to be them.
The military, through its commanders, will not participate in any such thing. Active-duty servicepersons do not participate in domestic affairs, by law, and the National Guard belong to the State's governors - not the President. If the President were to try and federalize National Guard troops, I'm certain the state's governors will refuse. The military is not required to obey illegal orders - even if from the President. Your military is nothing to fear. We exist to protect you, America - not the President.
That is mostly true — but Donnie has said he will put people in place who WILL do his bidding next time. You are mostly right so far, but there are intentions to pervert even that …
In this case I think you may perhaps be giving too much credit to those who do not deserve it. After 24 years in the Marine Corps, I can reasonably assure you that the military culture does not change that quickly. Trump cannot put anyone in place who would do his bidding. Isay that because those in leadership positions (Joint Chief's of Staff for example) would never do as Trump wants - nor would those in position to replace them. Anyone else would not have the confidence of the troops and would go nowhere. Honestly, a Military leader is NOT like someone elected to Congress. Apples to Oranges comparison. If anything I would encourage you to take comfort in the fact the military will not support or enable Trump in any of his antics. Can't say the same for civilians - especially many lawyers who seem to think they are above all others in the food chain. Just look at the evidence as to who is under inditement.
Great response Jim, I believe the rank and file and officer corps will not be sucked into any nefarious or illegal acts. They are core patriots, top to bottom and would never set aside their oath.
Thank you, Jim, for your reassurance. I have always suspected our military leaders would have higher principles than our venal civilian leaders, even given the occasional Mike Flynn or Ollie North.
I want to think you are right. But, we do have a few wing nuts in the military who want to remake it as a Christian Force, and Gen. Flynn was not chopped liver, but admittedly, those are still in the minority and are not the whole of the military.
Still, I don’t know if the rank and file of our forces would resist a concerted move to obey an order that is dicey, but not outrageously illegal. I would like to think the Joint Chiefs would have their heads on their shoulders, but how easy would it be to replace THEM?
Jim (Bombguy24) my father and his father before him were Marines. I hope you are correct! I have this vague idea that there are laws that military must follow. I don't know the specifics, but I would bet that aiding an enemy of the USA (Putin and his puppet Donald J Trump) would violate any rules, or laws 🤔.
There are already "traitors" in the officer ranks, the Flynn borthers are just two.
Have you heard of Dominionism is an ecumenical religious ideology founded by R J Rushdoony, and Ted Cruz Father, Rafael.
No sooner did the AF Academy open it's doors than Megachurches arrived in town (Colorado Springs), and the military has relationship with religion (like Chaplains) and in basic training Chapel Guides,who march the troops to church services on Sunday's.
The AF Academy has such a program, and Cadets line up to go to church,just to get off campus, and meet girls.
Thus Dominionism was spread to the officer ranks, very bad in the Air Force. Remember Col Martha McSalley, the Right wing A-10 Squadron commander appointed to the Senate when McCain died and lost her bid for re election in 2020.
I sure hope that what you experienced is still valid. As you said in another comment, the Military is made up of ordinary Americans, many of whom have fallen victim to the Massive disinformation campaigns, the enlisted men and some leaders may also be programmed.
Programming funded and astroturfed by the Billionaire class and Putin, both of whom are doing everything in their power to gut what's left of our democracy.
Trump has a lot of power over MAGA, but he still seems to be captive to Putin and why do you think Rex Tillerson was his SoS?
Yes. Pat Goudey O'Brien: They are doing a Coup with every criminal lawless intention! We should be protected by the laws, and judges that are also sworn to follow the Constitution! If they cannot do their jobs, it's time to replace them! They are disqualifying themselves in plain sight! ENOUGH!
I wish I had your faith in the military but assuming that MAGA is as prevalent in their ranks as the general population I worry that their response might not be what we expect.
I understand your concern, but I will say that the servicepersons who may be MAGA adherents (and of course there are some) do not exercise any real control within their organization. The military is not a mob that can get caught up in the moment. Discipline and honor actually play an important role today, as in the past, during times of turmoil - just like the Vietnam era.
Thank you, Jim, for making that clear. My sister is a veteran and she has already reassured me that our military will protect American citizens from evil threatening to destroy Democracy whether it is outside forces or in our country. Thank you all military personnel!!! You are my heroes!
There are rules being misinterpreted and the Constitution's 14th amendment, section 3 is not being enforced : there are MAGA Republicans in Congress who should have lost their seats, because they did not honor their oaths of office! What is happening is high Treason if this criminal is allowed to occupy the Oval office in spite of his fealty to our enemy,, Vladimir Putin!
Interestingly, I find that I disagree somewhat to your argument about the 14th Amendment. I proposed on an earlier post from Dr. Reich that I found nothing in the written works on the 14th, section 3 that included the President. Why? Because, back then, the President already occupied the highest office in the land. Their thinking was, "Why would the President commit insurrection against himself?' That makes no logical sense. Also, back then we had a much more powerful Congress. Senators and Representatives were the highest office named because of the power and stature they had back then. "Officials" I take to mean everyone in an elected or assigned position, but not to include the President. Remember, the local tax-collector was an "Official" and had enough power to cause serious harm to the community. While I might think Trump actions are subject to the 14th Amendment, he absolutely committed crimes against his oath of office. Those in Congress who aided and abetted his actions should also be held accountable. We do not need a specific precedent for an action that has no precedent. He has clearly demonstrated his unfitness for the Office of the President. Congress CHOSE not to do their Constitutional duty in impeaching him and left it to the court system. It's on record, they abdicated their responsibility, and now we should let the legal system do its job. And Congress should not say a word - they have no say.
Our governor would bow to the Confederacy because he already bows to them. He would not impede federalizing the National Guard. He is not running for office again, so he follows the path of least resistance, which happens to be Red.
sad. I'm pretty confident my governor would fight this all the way. He makes the legislature so mad in WI! Unless the trash legislature gets the power to overrule his veto.
Yes, I take for granted that ALL of the rightwing MAGAt laden states' governors would do with their said National Guard troops whatever TF their putrid orange fuehrer demands of them, no matter HOW illegal, or barbarous. :(
I am a retired officer and I wish to inform you that troops and officers follow orders., all Trump has to do is staff the Pentagon with cronies, who will follow orders, like he did in late December 2019, in particular acting Secretary's of Defense and Army, and instruct them not to answer the phones. Lt Gen Charles Flynn, brother of the notorious traitor Lt Gen Mike Flynn, was seated at the Pentagon Desk were the phones are located, and he let them ring off the hook, as Pelosi and other Congressional leaders were trying to get the Acting Secretary of Defense to authorize the National guard to enter the Capitol.
Finally when Pence heard Hang Mike Pence, in the hallway, and shit a brick, he knew the score and called the Acting Secretary of the Army to release the guard. The acting Sec of the Army didn't know that he didn't have the authority, so followed Pence's orders and the Jan 6th traitors were ousted.
My point in all of us is that you have no idea how the chain of command works.
The Defense Department has already run exercises in deploying the military inside the U.S., to put down a riot.
Soldiers follow orders it is in their oath of enlisitment, google it.
As regard the National Guard, well there are 23 Republican trifectas, 17 Democratic trifectas, and 10 divided governments where neither party holds trifecta control.
There are 28 states with Republican Governors, and the National Guard is under control of the Governor.
Vic and everyone else, far more disturbing to me is that through threats of violence and acts of violence accomplished by what is to become the equivalent of the infamous Nazi “Brownshirts,” those jurists who disagree with or might rule against Trump are now literally afraid for their lives and the safety of their families. The closer Trump inches to a potential win, the greater the threat is. So in politics, opposers are not running for reelection for they are running for their lives, and in the justice system even judges are intimidated by his threats of “I am your retribution.” The course of personal safety is to “run out the clock.” None of us on this forum except for Professor Reich are yet to be threats of his “retribution.” Only when you are actually under that threat can you understand the pressures the justices may be facing. And why should they take that risk if the Supreme Court is already ripe to be purchased? Gangsters and oligarchs have always believed “Everyone has their price,” not only in financial incentives, but in fear for themselves and their loved ones.
Turning their backs on the whole mess are the ultra-wealthy capitalists and their corporations who could unitedly denounce Trump and stop funding the Ultra Right demagogues. Politics now runs on money, and that gives the Ultra wealthy the power to support fascism or end it before it becomes our new reality. But they have not nor will not. They will carry the shame of their support of fascism and use of threats of retribution through violence of to their graves. And it is all for money and power.
So back to my reoccurring theme, the ultimate threat is not Trump nor fascism, It is the system of Capitalism and supporting this system is our irrational belief that somehow it can be reformed and controlled. So again, “Why is Capitalism so rotten?” The answer is, because it has become an untamable monster and we need an economic system that limits wealth accumulation and power while assuring that the basic necessities of all are met. Communism and Socialism are failed systems because of the reliance on a centrally controlled economy. First we need a rational humane locally based economic system and then from that comes a true representative governance.
Under Trump and the removal of all regulation, Capitalism will fall as did Soviet Communism. When it does, we need to have developed a new system to replace it. Until then, you might get to visit me in either “Camp Troublemaker" or "Camp Vermin."
Only if enough people vote for trump! I still believe that true Americans are the majority and they will never support trump or his plans for (against) America!
We need to take steps, but I don’t see how they can be military. Individual National Guards might be appropriate, but they are under control of governors, and would not be used by the very states that need help.
I think it’s the RULES that Republicans are putting in place — not so much disruptions of the system — that are the problem, anyway.
Yes, the republicans are of the same mind of trump because they believe his lies and also think his plans will help THEM! The proof of that is in the republicans refusing to pass the border security bill, simply because trump told them NOT to! He has overstepped his boundaries so many times, but then he believes no boundaries apply to him.
The rank and file of Republicans in office seem to be in abject fear of Donnie, but the powerful rich guys in the back rooms manipulate him and know he’s a really a great tool for them to install a full-on oligarchy in the US.
I don’t think powerful guys believe a word he says. They just need him to keep saying it to provide cover for what they are doing out of sight of the rest of us who are focused on Trump. People who DO believe him are the ones who vote for him and get him and his minions elected, but the ones we need to fear even more are not even working out in the open.
This whole situation is F-ING AWFUL! [Sorry to be hollering, but I do that when I’m scared.]
The GOP is not incapable of connecting the dots. They just simply choose not to. When the controversy is between doing the job they were elected for and the money (and the fame game that goes with it)? The GOP will choose money first and always. They have seen what tRump has accomplished all the while thumbing his nose at law and order and they all want their piece of the pie. No matter that it might very likely toss our hard won and hard work on the promotion of our democratic Republic on the garbage heap after 250+ years. Money always seems to speak louder to some people and it's a pity that the Republican party is mostly overrun by them. To our nation's detriment, I'm afraid.
The GOP doesn't have to connect the dots. They just take orders. The Billionaire War Barons and Monopolizers who give the orders not only connect the dots, they make them.
While the Dems just react, or not.
It's so hard to watch. The Oligarchs are playing chess and the Dems are playing...what? Checkers I guess. Parcheesi. Except for the old Pelosi, and Biden sometimes, they seem perpetually surprised at all the "shocking" sh*t the Oli's come up with and send down. Usually to Texas.
Luckily McConnell seems to have lost some venom. He was the sharpest tool of the War Barons.
All of whom seem to support Putin, and of course, more war in the Sinai.
At any cost. Biden needs to stop the offensive weapons going to Bibi.
The MIC and Oiligarchs sure found his Achilles heal.
Once again I wonder, why didn't our Intelligence community see this coming?
Or did it?
After all, the IDF and Mossad intercepted the Hamas plan. Then sat on it.
Odd that it wasn't shared with their US IC counterparts?
Or did they?
How much did the TX National Guard know about Abbott's scheme (pardon, the Oligarch's scheme)? Their plans are so specific and long term and masked in fake MAGAism, when the goal is always just to take over our Gov from the inside out.
The coup was really the takeover of SCOTUS. One of their end goals.
McConnell's incredible, diabolical procedural skills and poker face slight of hand always caught the Dems by surprise. Or did they?
I wish we had another Pelosi in the Senate. But the Oli managed to take out Franken, so ...
The American people deserve to know if trump is a spy for foreign entities. He sells us out and is nothing but a grifter. Eileen Cannon appears to be part of this conspiracy. It’s not a documents case, it’s a selling of our country’s secrets case, akin to treason.
Robert Jaffee, new on the circuit, seeking teacher's pet with oligarch newspaper info:
Watch out, this guy is an attacker. Not asking for data, attacking. Making a show of it.. I will do this again at the beginning of substacks , if you continue. ... Now, I know what is done to kids by bullies on their sites.. And, what does the US currently do, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...
Emergency use of a vaccine is full of problems, especially novel vaccines like Covid RNA. This is what the biochemists are saying now: SPIKEOPATHY
And, you got the 38 page, peer reviewed medical article regarding the problems with the novel vaccine?
And, the bioweapon by DOD , using ticks as vectors for multiple diseases, US DOD still hiding from this, even Tufts Medical from Boston publishing an article saying this is a 'conspiracy theory". The conspiracy is the LIE by the DOD that ticks are a US bioweapon, have gotten out or been released (unclear yet) since the 1960s and have caused enormous pain and suffering of the US population, much of it unknown, with MDS in cahoots. Actually, 4 nonfiction awards for the book, BITTEN by KRIS Newby..
I don't write about what I don't know or have not read in multiple credible sites. I do have varying opinions. Just not a group thinker.. Like the DNC is utterly failing us with its commitment to money and power and Biden. And, I am proud of my education. Worked hard for it. Did innovative work.
Attacking others is a lowlife activity, just like trumpty the mobster.
I’m not sure where you’re going with this? Are you accusing me of attacking Cannon? She’s made several rulings in Trump’s favor that have been overturned on review by the circuit court, and have left legal experts scratching their heads.
That said, I’m not getting into the vaccine debate with you again, because you’re conflating information, and I don’t have the time right now. Perhaps, another day when I have more time to discuss.
IF there were any such thing as poetic justice in this effed up world, he would LOSE the election, BADLY and 'BIGLY' (as the scummy one would say), and then be CONVICTED of all of these crimes, with no way to weasel out of them, save for his violent, POS MAGAt NAZI brown shirts coming to the federal Pen and trying to break their putrid orange fuehrer out. ;)
Indeed, it's highly unlikely the Florida case will go to trial, if at all, before the election. Judge Cannon having found the perfect reason not to move forward. All because of an issue presented to her which she has deemed a a serious item and she must give it "great thought" before rendering an opinion. In that way she both gives her benefactor what he wants while not inviting yet another scathing reprimand from the appeals court. And, if by some trick Chump is "elected" again, I guarantee most if not all the cases will be dismissed completely or conveniently completely forgotten. Much to the detriment of the American people And subsequent joy of Donald McRonald Chump.
Oh indeed! She just managed this week to derail any further court proceedings till the 12th of never. With a pronouncement that "Gee whiz and willikers the last question you posed to me and how it might impact the case and America is a good one that I'll have to give great thought to before I consider my answer (as in I'm not rendering one before the election, if ever)." And thus she avoids having to use her nonfunctioning brain to actually think before rendering her answer. Well, not entirely nonfunctional. She finally found a way to stymie the prosecution as well as the court of appeals so she could give Chump a free pass on this case (and probably one of the most important ones) AND avoid another reprimand from above. And it only took two reprimands for her to figure out another approach to accomplish Chump's agenda to have his case either thrown out or adjudicated in his favor once he gets elected. Yes, Chump may dumb as a fence post in general things but he is extremely crafty in knowing how to manipulate people because he can read them. I think that is why he changed from a Democrat to a Republican. I think he surmised that Republicans could be bought off much more easily than Democrats or Independents. So he switched parties and he bought a presidency (thanks to the RNC, NRA, and his constituants cum cult members). Oh, and a healthy dose of Putin and Xi interference. And he's doing much the same again in the court system. Whether any of the court cases against him he wins is up for grabs. Because if he loses he will most certainly appeal it all the way to the SC, whose conservative justices (3 appointed by him in his previous term) will almost certainly find a way to give him a pass. As they have done so already in the past.
No, Chump may not be the smart cookie he thinks he is but he more than makes up for it by being shrewd, conniving, crafty and corrupt. He's extremely good at sniffing out the most gullible among the population, reading what their anger is most focused on and using their anger at a government that they feel doesn't serve them. Not that Chump will do so but it's a great way to really rile up the people, giving them an often false narrative and promising changes that he has no intention of doing. He's merely using these issues to "buy" votes and money. The only thing he's interested in along with avoiding the criminal charges stacking up against him.
Yes, Chump is dumb as a fence post but who needs smarts when you are great at manipulating people? Chump has been manipulating people his whole career to get what he wants and has done pretty well for himself so far. I mean, he "won" a 4 year run as president. Once. And because of that, his many benefactors (the filthy rich and authoritarian dictatorial leaders who support HIM) are pitching in even more to see him get elected again. The Especially those that have loaned him millions of dollars like Putin.
So I would endeavor NOT to dismiss Chump for his level of stupidity because he more than makes up for it in cunning and an innate ability to "read the room" and to harness all that angry energy in his favor through manipulation to obtain what he wants. We've seen what a truly destructive person Chump is and even his loyal fans will admit readily that while they agree he's engaged in unlawful nefatious behavior (some 91 counts of it) they'll still vote for him. Even when they agree that he's a clear and preset danger to Ameica and should never be president again, they'll still vote for him. Go figure. Because I sure can't.
It is my understanding, and I could be totally wrong, that the DOJ Special Prosecutor Jack Smith could request of a higher court that Cannon be removed from the case. If that is true, then why hasn't he done so?! That Florida Trump toadie, whether provided the black robe of a judge or not, clearly feels beholden to Trump, or she is simply as inexperienced and incompetent as judicial experts say she is or a combination thereof, should not be able to wield the power over our country by holding the power over the stolen classified documents case that she does. Her continuing powerful role combined with the recently revealed news that the FBI did not fully search all of the areas of Mar-A-Lago that they should have, combined with the recently revealed news that the DOJ/AG Merrick Garland refused to investigate and/or prosecute Trump because internal opposition to that kind of prosecution was too "hot" inside the DOJ - until the January 6 committee forced his hand - ALL of the above, and probably lots more unknowns, are contributing factors to the ongoing roaming around the country spreading lies and further treasonous ideas of the domestic terrorist tRump and his mob. WHY??!!! Maybe, finally, and at last the 3-judge unanimous decision today on Trump's insane and absurd claim of unfettered "executive immunity" will finally and at last move things along. In addition, I hope so profoundly that Fani Willis' poor personal judgement will not impair her ongoing work in Georgia; that is such a strong and righteous case. Why would she or anyone do anything to jeopardize it, and I hope her personal decisions have not done so.
Reading Tristan Snell's new book about "bringing down Trump" (he was the lead attorney on the "Trump University" case), and to do superb legal work against the slippery ability of Trump to elude justice, focus-focus-focus is imperative. Three judges today helped America. Even if America has not yet turned the corner away from this horrific era of tRump, maybe we can at least SEE the corner off in the distance and if we just keep on moving towards it...... there is hope.
I agree and blame it on Garland. First off his reason for trying the case in Florida is false as the crime was committed in DC when Waltine Nauta moved the boxes our of the White House to the plane. Garland said he moved the case to the place where the crime was committed, It was committed in DC, not in Florida
Second he specifically chose Aileen Cannon, blaming it on the wheel (chance named after the Wheel of Fortune), which is patent bull shit.
Garland is the Republican inside man. He hasn't prosecuted the insurrectionists in congress, has not prosecuted the rapist Matt Gaetz, has not appointed a special counsel to prosecute Ivanka and Jr, though there is hard evidence of their crimes and corruption, but couldn't wait to appoint David Weiss as special prosecutor of Hunter.
And ultimately I blame Joe for appointing this fifth columnist as AG.
I agree! Unfortunately, He has more coverage than any criminal I have ever seen. The media is afraid of him. They could get caught in his cross hairs of lies and slander and maybe even loose their jobs. The Democrats keep appearing weak. The Republicans that want to help are afraid to think for themselves.
These are court cases, democrats have nothing to do with it. It’s Trump appointed judge Cannon that’s been a thorn in the case, and appears to be in cahoots with Trump.
Indeed-Cannon that’s been a thorn in the case, and appears to be in cahoots with Trump and indeed, she is bought and paid for and like our not so illustrious stench of a Supreme Court, a political hack, a complete crony for Trump and the fascist GOP put in the last minute by Mitch & Trump, before he exited the door, now he hopes to run out the clock and renter that same door, if he does, dictator in chief, will unleash hell on earth unto America
I think The Media Moguls are part of the American Oligarch, GREED SQUAD. Plain & Simple.
It’s the era of $ $$ $$$ $$$$ only that matters and they don’t give a damn about anything but Their Bank Accounts. Not You, Not America, Not Me, NOT Your Children and not your grand children, NOT Democracy itself; which has made their lives & businesses possible. Vile!!!!!
So much that depends on the court of public opinion and this is where we need to keep the focus on. Just as he claims he is persecuted by Democratic witch hunt we can hammer say that he is being protected by Republican judges. The evidence is overwhelming and it can be shown over and over. Innocent people would want to go to court and clear their names, the delay is a sign of guilt. Why is he not willing to defend himself and instead is trying to delay?
We don’t need to depend on the judges and hope all this is settled before the election. When the indicted says they are immune they are not denying that they committed the crime, just that they have a “pass”.
The jury is the voters and we have the evidence and a defendant who isn’t defending himself. We ought to be able to win this.
Sadly, "ought to" are the operative words above, and they discount the myriad brown shirt, MAGAt masses who (brainwashed or not) DEMAND fascism, and that their putrid orange POS DESPOT be installed into power over all of us. :( :(
Those brown shirt / red hats are not enough to elect him. They won’t change and they don’t bring more people to their side. I think they scare people away.
No, they're not entirely incapable of thinking for themselves as Cheney and Kittzinger have shown but they are incredibly afraid of the retribution they and their families might be exposed to if they disagree with tRump and the rest of the turncoat GOP members Personally, those in office who are afraid of that whole dynamic should quietly resign their positions for some sort of innocuous reason and let the states decide who will replace them (hopefully with Democrats who are up to the task of returning this nation back to it's democratic roots).
It’s not only tRUMP on trial. The U.S. justice system is on trial. I, for one, am skeptical that our justice system is up to the task. And what is at stake? Our democracy.
Phil, I advise we follow Special Counsel Jack Smith’s lead, who recognizes nothing can be done about Aileen Cannon’s foot dragging as long as she’s not in violation of some major protocol, and focus, instead, on the J6 case, wherein the Judge (Tanya Chutkan) is as committed as the rest of us to expediting the proceedings. Moreover, regardless of the seriousness of the Mar-A-Lago case, everyday people, overall, view the J6 case as far more grievous.
Here I would note, though the Professor’s proposal of figuring out some way of lifting the stay on J6 pretrial proceedings, while Trump’s claim of absolute immunity is being litigated, is our best option— particularly seeing Trump then would have a vested interest in precipitating the litigation—I question whether outside, public pressure could have any impact.
Jack Smith should have asked to voir dire Cannon for bias as soon as she accepted the case.
She should not have accepted jurisdiction in case # 1 per local rule and per a published 11th Cir decision, and IMHO now she has a duty to stand for voir dire on bias.
28 U.S. Code § 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge
(a)Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his [or her] impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
In addition to her questionable conduct, she is married to Josh Lorence, a restaurant executive, whose employer may be tied to Trump.
Daniel, While, unlike you, I’m not an attorney, I have difficulty accepting, were Jack Smith to have recourse that had a reasonable shot at succeeding, he wouldn’t have pursued it.
Daniel, In my view, the point is not whether anyone can file a complaint; it’s whom does the layperson consult to learn whether a complaint has a shot at succeeding.
2. How to file a judicial complaint. "You may file a complaint about a federal judge who you have reason to believe has committed misconduct or has a disability that interferes with the performance of their judicial duties.".
That being said AND on that I do agree with you. NONE of the judges in most of the cases pending against tRump have even remotely considered removing themselves from these cases and won't unless forced. And that goes for the SC justices who SHOULD recuse themselves and don't do so mostly because they know the only way they can be forced from a case is if they are impeached. And, I wager, that will go as well for them as tRump's impeachments went. Even though he HAD committed these crimes with undeniable evidence attached, he got a free ride from his good buddies in the Senate. I'd expect an impeachment against SC justices would likely go the same way. Talk about justice being blind. In this case, I'd wager they're deaf as well. I'd say the questionably conservative 6 tend to exhibit the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" train of thought. At least when it comes to Republicans in office. I find it both hugely humorous and yet incredibly despicable at the same time. The GOP waste no time in admonishing and demonizing the Democrats to eliminate or prosecute members among them who've displayed, let's just say, less than ideal behavior. But, in the next breath, will give a known adulterer, thief, and all around criminal a walk on truly egregious rhetoric and behavior. And saying things like it's "only locker room talk" when such is obviously not the case and "it was only a peaceful political protest" which flies in the face of what was graphically displayed by the media right in front of the viewing public. It's a true conundrum to say the least.
The Trump Crime Family already copied and sold all of the really important documents. How do you think Jared scammed $2B from MBS? And want to guess why Cucker Tarlson is in Moscow right now?
Yeah, I just heard about that. I wonder if he can be prosecuted for treason. I hope someone is watching him closely and documenting everything he does.
What needs to happen is SOCTUS must define what happened on 1/6. Was the action taken by the goons sent by Trump to the capital considered an act of insurrection. SCOTUS will settle the mess with a decision. If they decide Trump insighted and led the mob on 1/6 then the individual states can decide whether or not to allow the past President to appear on the 2024 Presidential ballot.
How many of the (ONLY ones which COUNT, CRIMINALLY thanks to the evil, POS Electoral 'College'!) 'swing states' are fully Dem controlled enough to take advantage of this ruling, EVEN IF it were to happen??
That's because most Americans seem to want the same entertainment value from Washington as from Hollywood. Just look or listen to comments from prospective voters about how "boring" or "exciting" a given candidate is. Trump's personality and ability is to harness that entertainment value should not be discounted. We want to be entertained, not governed! Just imagine is folks started Talking to Trump as he does. I have two nicknames for Trump I use when speaking of him (when I'm not in a serious discussion) - the Popeye cartoon character's "Wimpy" and "Bluto the Buffoon." Can't decide which is the better.
Reagan, empty headed, was a great great communicator, but basically he was following somebody else’s script, the people with money loved it because they had him in the palm of their hand.
He did what they wanted and was a charming person…
Mostly there is a loneliness factor in the trumpet 🎺 phenomena most voters feel abandoned by both parties . Money 💰 is running the show democrats and republicans. No concern about about the working poor . I saw a family father two teen boys and Mom at a Good Will ( Salvation Army south ) shopping the used clothing rack for back to school clothing …
Dad looked like a guy with a physical type job I’m sure they voted if they voted for Trumpet 🎺 because that’s the guys and gals 🎺 addresses.
No one else gives a damn about the working poor trumpet 🎺 may have done much for the poor but he had a good rap.
Clinton help destroy the Social safety system that many families relied on no one sits down and consciously chooses to become poor or to remain poor .
To the dumber than a rock MAGAt masses, the 'went right over their collective empty heads' Colbert of the past (Report) is now considered an abject, 'libtard traitor' by the brown shirts. ;)
Also, he has that very annoying, GRATING voice (he 'grinds' the end of every diarrheal verbiage, nonsensical sentence spewing out of it's putrid puckered orifice).
Definitely NOT a 'smooth talking' type, grifting con man's voice!
But his MAGAt worshipers keep on adoring their POS 'god-savior' anyway.
I agree. It makes me crazy when memes are sent around about ridiculous things that Drumpf has said as though it is some kind of comedy act and supposed to be entertaining. If that's what he wants - someone give him a show that we can just ignore and let the adults in the country run things.
Unfortunately, he has a show (National Politics) that gives him better coverage than anything else comparable. AND we watch. AND the networks feed off the ratings. Why would he, or anyone else, want to change that. Obviously, it's working just fine for him.
yes, I know. I just thought the voting people in this country would agree that it shouldn't be allowed. My hopes were too high. I expected more from a lot of people that I shouldn't have. I was naïve. So were the framers of our constitution. Who could have thought we'd be in this position?!
I have to disagree with you. The framers of our Constitution did not have mass communication, opinion polls, the telephone or TV, social media, automatic rifles, or any of the other physical instruments of society of today. If they did, obviously our Constitution would have been written differently - if at all in that form. I always rile at the argument we should look to the framer's original intent when addressing Constitutional issues, primarily because we live in a completely different world other than the conceptual/philosophical aspect. I was taught that the Constitution was a "living" document, able to be changed and updated (slowly and deliberately of course) with the changes in society and even technology. They clearly stated our society would change over time. That's part and parcel to the American experiment.
I was taught that it could be changed as well. And in the framers' defense - who would have thought we would be facing the garbage we are now. I feel like there are so many changes that should have been done already; like updates to the 2nd amendment for example.
It's too bad we have to be adults in our interactions over Trump. Sometimes, I actually want someone on national TV, like in a debate, to deliberately make fun of Trump (like my 'Bluto the Buffoon' or yours) just to watch him explode. He does it, but we can see he hates being mocked. Sometimes though, what goes around comes around.....
It is. I was actually taught in school that real politics - the day-to-day stuff - was naturally boring to the populace. Just like accounting (sorry Accountants!). That's why we have the entertainment industry. Unfortunately, social media has changed that forever.
If there is a god, doubtful at this stage; this fat American FASCIST will die a horrible painful death. Or at least a Massive Stroke-where he cannot speak, waddle, or golf. Let’s see That, and I might think there could be a god.
Douglas, there aren’t enough of them. It’s the cheating that can succeed if the vote for Biden isn’t overwhelmingly a win. That makes the cheating much harder to do. Another worry with many berating Biden on the Israel/Gaza/Hamas issue. We can’t afford the loss of ANY votes.
Everyone, Everyone needs to look and appreciate A President Is One Leader, ONE Man in a government of hundreds of congress people & One Leader of ONE Country- not President of the World. We’re in the midst of a national emergency because (R)s in the legislatures WON’T legislate to FIX our border!
How can an American president sign legislation when Congress Won’t DO Their Job???
And if he can’t be effective because of these ass-wipes here; HOW is he going to “make” Netanyahu and the ass-wipes in Israel do the right thing?
Joe can’t declare a “ceasefire” in Israel, people… and if Palestinians/Arabs here think writing in “ceasefire” on their ballot is going to do anything except help tRump they’re wrong. Remember- tRump’s Muslim ban…he hates you.
The white-Supremacists He IS Part of will round you up and put you and other Brown Folks into concentration camps and/or ship you out to a place that’ll kill you for your ideas.
Joe believes in a 2 State solution for Palestinians- tRump DOES NOT. Never Has & Never Will. I hope people REALIZE those FACTs. I too am frustrated by this destruction in GAZA and In America.
Our Society MUST join together to be a free society - united - Or Liberty & Justice For ALL will not even be a dream any longer!!!
This is the most important comment on this stream. We can WANT Netanyahu to act differently and we can think that Biden—who has more experience on this front than most people on the planet—“should” make something change in Gaza & Israel, but the idea that Trump would handle this better for the Palestinians is absurd. He has no commitment to that goal—whatsoever. They are not important to him. America needs Biden, who prioritizes our constitution and values and who cares about the freedom of other people, including the Palestinians and the Ukrainians.
YES, somehow the Muslim faction in this land have forgotten about SCUMp's, and his devout followers and minions', abject HATRED of them, and persecution of them way too quickly!
If they help the SHITler succeed in taking over this land by doing the above in Michigan and elsewhere, they will be destroying their very SELVES in the process, and will not be able to protest anything going on in Gaza at that point!
He may have to 'turn' as abruptly on that issue as he did on the border issue. (Even though the RepugnaF**KS still would use it against him due to following their scummy fuehrer's marching orders. :( )
Our democracy cannot afford for him to lose, PERIOD, FULL STOP!!
Patricia Pustell ; I have had the same ideas. Maybe it's the death threats that he has made it difficult to tie him to, like the criminal mobster/terrorist that he is. It's a preview of what will come if he actually manages to get back in power! I cannot believe the latitude he has been given!
A guy who was ok with and made a joke about 83 year old Paul Pelosi getting hit with a hammer as he awoke still in his pajamas, is most likely not getting ulcers about offing someone ; especially a woman. He was quoted that he "treats women like Shit". His lawyers argued in a court of law that Trump should be able to murder his opponents (or anyone) and not be charged with murder. Immunity ; complete immunity. He wants concentration camps, likes Nazis...Get the idea? He is worse than Hitler! He calls our military who get imprisoned by the enemy ; Losers! His name for those who die in active duty ; Suckers! like the two young women and a man who died in the Middle East just a few days ago! HE is the loser! If he gets elected, the whole world will want to GET him! And not as a leader of any kind!
I'm sure Putin has shared with Trump lots of kompromat (gained by hacks of the RNC & various other surveillance) they have on Republican politicians to get them in line, which accounts for the sudden turnarounds in public positions of many Republicans on both Trump & Putin/Russia.
Jaime, that’s what I’ve been suspecting, too! Explains so much. I’m sure Putin also has dirt on Trump. Putin holds the carrot (business deals and adulation) and the stick (compromising documents, photos and videos).
Trump acts like a mob boss in an international syndicate headed by Putin. Some other mob bosses in this syndicate: Orban, Erdogan, Netanyahu, Modi, KJU, the Iranian leader, and at least when they were in power, Bolsonaro & Duterte. Xi may be like a godfather, pulling a lot of strings behind the scenes. MBS, too. Trump is in love with all these strongmen.
I would agree, (and DO), but, they are all so unabashedly SHAMELESS lately, that no matter HOW criminal, and 'perverse' said kompromat may be, it makes me wonder whether or not they would even care if they were 'exposed' at this point.
Such is their arrogant, belligerent, confidence in their abject power at this point. ;) :(
(Speaking to all of the Repugnaf**k pols, NOT SCUMp, who would probably BRAG to his adoring MAGAt brown shirt low lives about what went down in that Moscow motel room. ;) [puke])
There a few things that Trump will do anything to hide, including whatever happened in the Moscow hotel room & the various accusations of sexual assault, especially the underage ones. He pays hefty amounts of money to keep them quiet, & if that's not enough, he'll add some death threats.
MsLW, that’s another thing. Trump has threatened judges to their faces and their families. That should get him thrown in jail. If they are so afraid of the MAGA crowd, then we might as well hand the place over to them. What the hell?
We’ve seen this happen in other countries; criminals take over and government officials go along or pay the price.
Fear is a powerful force and DJT knows how to use it.
He’s been using mobster tactics all of his life.
Merrick Garland probably thought DJT would fade away….easy to blame Garland, but we don’t know what he was thinking or whether he would have had support from Joe Biden, et al. if he had acted earlier.
E. Jean Carroll says he is nothing. I think it’s more about the network that vomited him up and continues to give him power. They hide in the shadows for most of America but there must be people that know who they are. It’s just ashamed they have been allowed so much power. They are the unelected narcissistic sociopaths grifting on society.
After skating through all of his dirty deeds unscathed, over the past seven years, surely we have to know exactly where this is all going; nowhere. I never thought that I would live to see this country so terrified of one "common" man that they would "allow" him to be above the law, even though they continue with their redundant mantra, 'no one is above the law.' PROVE IT!!!!!
The Republican party---- The majority of the members in this group have been severely beaten with a stupid stick. From speaker Johnson down to the bottom of the barrel where we found MTG. The actions taken by the House membership are considered to be un-Democratic in nature and Un-American to the majority of the voting public. Trying to impeach an elected official over policy issues not legal ones is an asinine attempt to remove a member through normal channels. The lost members of the House who still listen to the orange fat guy have no place representing anyone from anywhere. The Republican party has become sickened by Trump's lies and the pathetic political stories Fox News spreads to the idiots who follow the cries of the MAGA goon squad's dyslexic leader. It's time to turn the page on a chapter in this country's history that saw a crook's attempt to take over something that didn't belong to him, The United States of America. A country he will never understand. Hitler wanted desperately to see New York burn; Trump wants to see that happen to our entire country.
I am feeling personally — and perceiving on this thread — a sense of this all coming to a head, as I am “at the end of my rope”!!! I am fairly well OUT OF PATIENCE and fearful of where we are right now, never mind even thinking about where this is heading.
SOMETHING is going to give … I hope it is a break in a positive direction, like Donnie’s house of cards falling down, and not the US of A imploding under the weight of that Orange Disaster.
We lost a great American, a great talent, and a truly great man yesterday. At the age of 62 Toby lost his battle with stomach cancer and passed away at home surrounded by his family and a group of close friends. More than the man will be missed, his American theme which echoed through so many of his songs, sadly will have to be expressed through alternative voices. One of my favorites was, "Courtesy of the Red, white, and blue. Trump approached Toby and wanted him to redo the song using a title that reflected a different theme. After their meeting Trump left their get together with a slight limp. All we could hear was something about Keith's boot.
Yeah, a nice image, though, eh? Mr. Keith’s boot and …. Someone’s something .. coming together with vigor. Even if only frivolous fiction, it’s still a nice image ..
Toby Keith isn’t someone I respect in the least. He referred to the Democratic party as kooks in 2008, Trump gave him the medal of Arts (trump wouldn’t do that for someone he didn’t like), Toby Keith performed at Trump’s inauguration!
Toby Keith was outspoken on conservative topics. I say good riddence!
Pat--Tighten your cinch, this ride is just beginning. We're approaching the top of that steep climb at the start of all rollercoaster rides. The screaming is yet to come.
Shanna--A little free verse as it were, no that didn't happen, but I wouldn't doubt he wanted to use one of Toby's songs at his rallies and he was refused.
I'm amazed Trump would ask. Most of the time Trump & other Republicans just go ahead & use a song without permission & then wind up being sued by the artist or songwriters.
The Right has downplayed what it means to be "impeached" and "indicted" for a felony to
the point where many people do not and CANNOT differentiate between crime and bad behavior! If "All politicians are greedy, self-serving crooks," then ANY and ALL actions are lumped into the category of expected (and oftentimes acceptable) behaviors.
HOW is trump's antics any different from all the other "crooks" in government? Maybe he is just BETTER at it?!? The words and terms are MEANINGLESS until the courts hold this monster ACCOUNTABLE... PLAIN & SIMPLE!!!
David, if by “better at it” you mean he makes threats, incites people to carry them out, carries grudges and has no moral standards (which is exactly what I think and bet you do, too!), he is indeed better at his crimes.
The Judicial (NON-Political) Branch of our "Government" ALREADY KNOWS what needs to be done to stop Herr Trump. The problem is that they CHOOSE NOT TO DO their NON-Partisan jobs and uphold the laws. The Judicial (NON-Political) Branch of our "Government" is CORRUPT. So, how to stop Trump from running out the clock? Replace all CORRUPT Judges. That is the ONLY way.
Ya hard to know what’s legitimate in my email inbox. I got crooks emailing saying my order is processed and payment of $350 has been received and I didn’t order anything . And nothing is taken from bank account. They want me to contact them and they’ll try to get my account info so they can “help”.
David Skoglund ; They want to sway public opinion, So they continue to trot out the polls. Unless it is Quinnipiac, or another known poll, I just ignore it. Fast forward or look at another news source, or podcast.
My brother and I both have gotten such emails, multiple times. We and you represent an "N" of three, but I'm guessing this experience online is universal. As a public service, spread the word. Part of an online response to a query about phishing was: "Send a copy of the email or the URL to the website to the U.S. government-operated website https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/report-phishing."
Your suggestion is based on sound legal arguments. My question is why the prosecution isn’t pushing to move the case forward more quickly? You are absolutely right that the two remaining judges could decide the issue right now, so why haven’t they come and why hasn’t the prosecution pushed for this?, America Democracy can’t possibly survive another Trump presidency. I am a retired criminal lawyer, admitted in for states, and so I understand Trump’s lawyers wanting delay, but I cannot understand why the prosecution is allowing this, when they have a perfectly good solution!We
She should not have accepted jurisdiction in this case and now she has a duty to stand for voir dire on bias.
28 U.S. Code § 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge
(a)Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his [or her] impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
Hi Dan, forgive the mistakes. I dictated my comment. Did you have any experience with these judges? You and I know the code and understand it. I doubt a GOP appointee will adhere to it in today’s world!
No, I'm too old... but my wife was in the US Atty's office when Alcee Hastings was removed, and lots of judges have to at least stand for a bias hearing. DC Cir had obvious ideologues like Kavanaugh.
I remember the Hastings case! And the he ran for Congress and won! Hopefully Thomas will face consequences. I knew Matyanne Trump Barry. I was truly surprised that she was involved in her brother’s fraudulent business transactions! So far, we don’t k ow that Judge Henderson has done anything wrong except delay. Judge Pan and Judge Childs need get off their you know whats and issue a decision immediately. If they don’t they are harming the vidity of the uocoming election!
That is at least promising news, since that arrogant, belligerent asswipe truly believes that he is immanently untouchable, and can do whatever TF he wishes, without ANY accountability or consequences, for the rest of his life!
And therein lies the problem. Define "reasonably" in today's culture, considering so many see the word as subjective, not objective. It's the muddying of the definition that causes so much debate over interpretation.
Voters should consider Trump guilty until proven innocent. The burden of proof is on him. So he should want to face the juries ASAP if he really believes he is innocent.
Exactly. If he were innocent, he would not be using all these delaying tactics. So, having no trial decision to base a decision on, the decision has to be based on the behavior up to the election. And he acts like a guilty man.
Sounds like Trump has been successful in creating his own Deep State in DC ‘s judiciary . And oh yes, in the U.S. senate too given the outcome over the border bill negotiations.
Let’s remind Americans that US border security rests more on the Ukraine Russian border than the Texas Mexican border. And fixing that more distant border crisis is a whole lot easier than fixing the southern border crisis which is caused by failed economies and its resulting cartel culture.
Failed economies in countries where peasants had their lives destroyed by the US and United Fruit corporation. Our CIA killed Guatemala’s democratically elected president (Arbánz) )when he proposed giving land grants to peasants who had suffered under previous regime debt slavery. (1954) Our greed for resources in South America created much of this!
Driven/fully fueled by OUR land's need/DEMAND for (currently) illicit drugs as much from those screaming about the effing border as from elsewhere (if not MORE so!). ;)
Interesting that I have been thinking that a two judge ruling would suffice. I didn't know the name of the (apparently) MAGA judge until now. Judge Karen Henderson, yet another name that will live in infamy.
Well, it seems reasonable if two of the three - a majority - are agreed on the ruling, and if a simple majority is all it takes, then the third is irrelevant no matter what they rule.
Some may claim that, to be credible, a fair hearing of dissent is called for before the other two judges enter a final judgment, but the operant word there is “fair,” and the delay is not fair. It is a ploy.
I agree, it’s clear that’s his strategy because he knows he’s guilty.
But why are we here now? It took Anthony Garland well over 2 years to appoint Jack Smith, waiting until after Trump announced his intention to run. Was Garland sitting on his hands? This whole process should have started 6 months after Garland was appointed
Of negative Anti Trumpet 🎺 publicity at the point of most impact the election (90 day prior ) if court cases started too soon by Election Day it’s forgotten
“0ld News” . Information has an expiration date the public’s span of attention is short.
I appears that trumpet is going to be overwhelmed in the Media with increasingly negative saturation coverage of his anti democratic anti American con jobs , criminal conspiracy, threats , and generally bad stuff he did , had others do , or did himself…
I can only hope it all drives him to reveal his true colors … he is the poster boy for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and I want to see more and more of it. It is NOT pretty, and America needs to recognize that.
Good question Ashley! I suspect that what we’re seeing is in part the monetization of justice (it’s very easy to put poor people in jail) and laws that allow those who can afford legal services an opportunity to draw out the process. But there is a “RULING CLASS” deference involved as well…that we should respect the office of president and its former occupants (Nixon’s pardon comes to mind).
The cure for American democracy is to remove money from our electoral politics. The rich 🤑 can’t win elections without rigging the game (CITIZENS UNITED money is free speech outcome is screaming one citizen one vote 🗳️ is wrong). All the disinformation and corruption of public institutions by money 💰 and little or no accountability to existing laws is intentional. The press has little leverage to get at the truth even if they wanted to which several powerful outlets seem laser focused on the opposite. Why? It’s the $$$$$$$ stupid!
…echoing GHW BUSH’s admonition that his loss to Bill Clinton was “…It’s the economy stupid!” Not directed at Ashley or anyone else in this discussion. My bad.
Sad days that aren’t getting any better. I am losing my patience. Even if just the two judges respond and rebuke Trump, he will appeal. From the time of the insurrection, which I might add, many watched on live television, we have been in a holding pattern. I want to get off this train wreck.
If it is legally viable for the two Biden- appointed judges to issue their ruling independently to move things forward, that’s good news, indeed. Whether or not those two justices have the will to do so is a separate issue. However, Robert, you suggesting its viability feels significant and promising. I would like to see this option discussed more publicly. The more widely the legal viability of this option is weighed, the more energized, the voting public who recognizes Trump‘s agenda can be. For decades, the Republicans have tried to exploit every vulnerability of the system. The more conscientiously, we support legitimate paths to overcoming stonewalling, the better. Either it prevails, or it doesn’t, but one step at a time. I am willing to send this question to Preet Bharara on his podcast. If other readers would like to help draft the question, I’m happy to review this message board later to pull something together. It’s 4:40 AM in the morning right now and I’m headed back to bed! I’ll check in later. And I certainly don’t need to be the only person floating this question, more publicly, for discussion on any podcast whatsoever. I am mindful that the courts are supposed to be above public opinion. And any options exercised by judges with integrity are also open to be exploited by Trump-apologist judges. I remind myself that there have been any number of Trump-appointed judges who have had the integrity of ruling against Trump all along. Judges exercising impartiality is ultimately what it’s supposed to be about.
Alison, there’s another podcast, “Justice Matters” with another federal prosecutor that I watch regularly. He teams up occasionally with Brian Taylor Cohen. (I can’t pull his name to mind-it’s 2:15 am here!) IANAL, nor am I knowledgeable about podcasts other than watching, but if I can help, I’m willing.
The Left must be willing to use every legal lever and exploit every legal pivot point. The R;s have played fast and loose {jamming up the House and Senate, not the least, and packing SCOTUS}, and Dems have to fight fire with fire.
Justice delayed is justice denied; that seems the essence to me. We saw Trump lead an insurrection, for years ago. This is what you get, not doing snythin decisive against it
Is there a parallel process here? Just as Republicans in the House (and Senate) fear opposing him, as justices fearing a public uprising if he is declared to have no immunity and did cause an insurrection?
Sounds like political/legal/security paralysis and feels as if he is playing (toying) with the world to serve his personal needs.
What about the stolen Documents case. That should lock him up for years. We need to fight this criminal. He’s Dangerous.☮️
Good luck with that. Eileen Cannon is handling that case, and has been dragging her feet from the beginning; ruling on several motions in favor of Trump without cause.
She’s bought and paid for by Trump Inc. Expect that case to be shelved until after the election.
Since the GOP likes to lie and bear false witness and cheat, our commander in chief needs to unleash the military to protect the polling sites. Once a GOP gains control of our military, there is little hope of a decent future for our children or anyone else's on Earth. It is easy to create a hell on Earth and it is a lot harder to create a heaven on Earth. The GOP is incapable of connecting the dots.
Unfortunately, if we try to use the military, we’ll be accused of everything Trump has tried to do. I agree. Republicans are pulling out every stop:
They’re trying to manipulate the election at the state level. Gerrymandering, voter suppression, a complicit media ecosystem, including the purchase of MSM entities like The Baltimore Sun and Univision.
As usual, they have too many built in advantages that make it easier for Trump to prevail. These people do not play fair!….:)
Robert Jaffee: That is why our President should use executive orders to enforce the Constitution. We are in peril of being terrorized by a bully and his cabal. Judges are given offers they can't refuse! If you can buy it, you can control it. Justice is supposed to be a major guardrail against tyranny! Our Freedom is at stake! President Biden is our Commander in Chief!
A Slave who can't be beaten is half free! This is war! The recalcitrant judges need to get it together!,which side are they on! Are they helping tfg to steal our very country?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/us/politics/trump-immunity-appeals-court.html?unlocked_article_code=1.TU0.32MC._MYvRg_iDduo&bgrp=g&smid=url-share
I agree, but there are so many executive orders a president can approve without being in contemptuous of existing immigration laws. Lawsuits will follow, and the orders stayed until they work themselves through the court system.
Even Trump lost several cases using executive orders. It’s not a panacea for congressional action. It’s a band aid….:)
Robert Jaffee ; But But But But But! I think it's time to take a chance! doing nothing does not look promising! Our legal system is a snake pit when it is played the way it has been lately! Laws are interpreted; The process does NOT have to be a snail pace that allows justice to be denied. I would personally like to kick the asses of these 'Judges' to wake them up. What are they getting out of this? Their own private island where they can hide the rest of their lives?
No, they don’t play fair but they complain if anything goes against *them*. Did you see how JD Vance was complaining that E. Jean Carroll’s verdict was “unfair.” All I could think was “Crybaby!”
Well sure. But the shrinking, Traitorous Trumplican MINORITY is just that: the MINORITY. If 30% of anti-Americans FEEEEEEL that justice is unfair, then it sucks to be them.
The military, through its commanders, will not participate in any such thing. Active-duty servicepersons do not participate in domestic affairs, by law, and the National Guard belong to the State's governors - not the President. If the President were to try and federalize National Guard troops, I'm certain the state's governors will refuse. The military is not required to obey illegal orders - even if from the President. Your military is nothing to fear. We exist to protect you, America - not the President.
That is mostly true — but Donnie has said he will put people in place who WILL do his bidding next time. You are mostly right so far, but there are intentions to pervert even that …
In this case I think you may perhaps be giving too much credit to those who do not deserve it. After 24 years in the Marine Corps, I can reasonably assure you that the military culture does not change that quickly. Trump cannot put anyone in place who would do his bidding. Isay that because those in leadership positions (Joint Chief's of Staff for example) would never do as Trump wants - nor would those in position to replace them. Anyone else would not have the confidence of the troops and would go nowhere. Honestly, a Military leader is NOT like someone elected to Congress. Apples to Oranges comparison. If anything I would encourage you to take comfort in the fact the military will not support or enable Trump in any of his antics. Can't say the same for civilians - especially many lawyers who seem to think they are above all others in the food chain. Just look at the evidence as to who is under inditement.
Great response Jim, I believe the rank and file and officer corps will not be sucked into any nefarious or illegal acts. They are core patriots, top to bottom and would never set aside their oath.
Thank you, Jim, for your reassurance. I have always suspected our military leaders would have higher principles than our venal civilian leaders, even given the occasional Mike Flynn or Ollie North.
I want to think you are right. But, we do have a few wing nuts in the military who want to remake it as a Christian Force, and Gen. Flynn was not chopped liver, but admittedly, those are still in the minority and are not the whole of the military.
Still, I don’t know if the rank and file of our forces would resist a concerted move to obey an order that is dicey, but not outrageously illegal. I would like to think the Joint Chiefs would have their heads on their shoulders, but how easy would it be to replace THEM?
Jim (Bombguy24) my father and his father before him were Marines. I hope you are correct! I have this vague idea that there are laws that military must follow. I don't know the specifics, but I would bet that aiding an enemy of the USA (Putin and his puppet Donald J Trump) would violate any rules, or laws 🤔.
I have you by two years service Jim.
There are already "traitors" in the officer ranks, the Flynn borthers are just two.
Have you heard of Dominionism is an ecumenical religious ideology founded by R J Rushdoony, and Ted Cruz Father, Rafael.
No sooner did the AF Academy open it's doors than Megachurches arrived in town (Colorado Springs), and the military has relationship with religion (like Chaplains) and in basic training Chapel Guides,who march the troops to church services on Sunday's.
The AF Academy has such a program, and Cadets line up to go to church,just to get off campus, and meet girls.
Thus Dominionism was spread to the officer ranks, very bad in the Air Force. Remember Col Martha McSalley, the Right wing A-10 Squadron commander appointed to the Senate when McCain died and lost her bid for re election in 2020.
Dominionism, aka Christian Reconstrution aka https://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/fundienazis/royal_race.htm
has since permeated the Academies, and share the same ideology as Mike Johnson, .
Thank you for that. It’s really comforting. 😀
I sure hope that what you experienced is still valid. As you said in another comment, the Military is made up of ordinary Americans, many of whom have fallen victim to the Massive disinformation campaigns, the enlisted men and some leaders may also be programmed.
Programming funded and astroturfed by the Billionaire class and Putin, both of whom are doing everything in their power to gut what's left of our democracy.
Trump has a lot of power over MAGA, but he still seems to be captive to Putin and why do you think Rex Tillerson was his SoS?
Oil. Weapons. Border wars. $$$
Does the name General Flynn not ring a bell?
That is because trump does not believe in the rule of law. He only wants to do what is good for HIM, certainly nothing that is good for America!
Yes. Pat Goudey O'Brien: They are doing a Coup with every criminal lawless intention! We should be protected by the laws, and judges that are also sworn to follow the Constitution! If they cannot do their jobs, it's time to replace them! They are disqualifying themselves in plain sight! ENOUGH!
I wish I had your faith in the military but assuming that MAGA is as prevalent in their ranks as the general population I worry that their response might not be what we expect.
I understand your concern, but I will say that the servicepersons who may be MAGA adherents (and of course there are some) do not exercise any real control within their organization. The military is not a mob that can get caught up in the moment. Discipline and honor actually play an important role today, as in the past, during times of turmoil - just like the Vietnam era.
How do you know that MAGAts in the military don't have any real control.? Not omnescient are you?
What a bold claim. I do not know if they do or don't, but odds say that some do, and that some are even general officers like the Flynn brothers.
Thank you, Jim, for making that clear. My sister is a veteran and she has already reassured me that our military will protect American citizens from evil threatening to destroy Democracy whether it is outside forces or in our country. Thank you all military personnel!!! You are my heroes!
There are rules being misinterpreted and the Constitution's 14th amendment, section 3 is not being enforced : there are MAGA Republicans in Congress who should have lost their seats, because they did not honor their oaths of office! What is happening is high Treason if this criminal is allowed to occupy the Oval office in spite of his fealty to our enemy,, Vladimir Putin!
Interestingly, I find that I disagree somewhat to your argument about the 14th Amendment. I proposed on an earlier post from Dr. Reich that I found nothing in the written works on the 14th, section 3 that included the President. Why? Because, back then, the President already occupied the highest office in the land. Their thinking was, "Why would the President commit insurrection against himself?' That makes no logical sense. Also, back then we had a much more powerful Congress. Senators and Representatives were the highest office named because of the power and stature they had back then. "Officials" I take to mean everyone in an elected or assigned position, but not to include the President. Remember, the local tax-collector was an "Official" and had enough power to cause serious harm to the community. While I might think Trump actions are subject to the 14th Amendment, he absolutely committed crimes against his oath of office. Those in Congress who aided and abetted his actions should also be held accountable. We do not need a specific precedent for an action that has no precedent. He has clearly demonstrated his unfitness for the Office of the President. Congress CHOSE not to do their Constitutional duty in impeaching him and left it to the court system. It's on record, they abdicated their responsibility, and now we should let the legal system do its job. And Congress should not say a word - they have no say.
A good number in Congress are traitors who betrayed their oaths of office.
I see you now Jim. Trying your best to lure the liberals to sleep.
I suspected as much, but your stance on the 14th Amendment cinched it.
Oops, change that to read. 'Trumps actions are not directly subject to'..... poor edit on my part.
Our governor would bow to the Confederacy because he already bows to them. He would not impede federalizing the National Guard. He is not running for office again, so he follows the path of least resistance, which happens to be Red.
sad. I'm pretty confident my governor would fight this all the way. He makes the legislature so mad in WI! Unless the trash legislature gets the power to overrule his veto.
Yes, I take for granted that ALL of the rightwing MAGAt laden states' governors would do with their said National Guard troops whatever TF their putrid orange fuehrer demands of them, no matter HOW illegal, or barbarous. :(
I'm curious; what State is that?
Ohio, where we vote but our elected officials ignore the results, spend time changing the law we voted on, and then sit on it.
You live in a world of your own creation Jim.
I am a retired officer and I wish to inform you that troops and officers follow orders., all Trump has to do is staff the Pentagon with cronies, who will follow orders, like he did in late December 2019, in particular acting Secretary's of Defense and Army, and instruct them not to answer the phones. Lt Gen Charles Flynn, brother of the notorious traitor Lt Gen Mike Flynn, was seated at the Pentagon Desk were the phones are located, and he let them ring off the hook, as Pelosi and other Congressional leaders were trying to get the Acting Secretary of Defense to authorize the National guard to enter the Capitol.
Finally when Pence heard Hang Mike Pence, in the hallway, and shit a brick, he knew the score and called the Acting Secretary of the Army to release the guard. The acting Sec of the Army didn't know that he didn't have the authority, so followed Pence's orders and the Jan 6th traitors were ousted.
My point in all of us is that you have no idea how the chain of command works.
The Defense Department has already run exercises in deploying the military inside the U.S., to put down a riot.
Soldiers follow orders it is in their oath of enlisitment, google it.
As regard the National Guard, well there are 23 Republican trifectas, 17 Democratic trifectas, and 10 divided governments where neither party holds trifecta control.
There are 28 states with Republican Governors, and the National Guard is under control of the Governor.
We are on the verge of being a criminal government, run by criminals and not by the rule of law.
Vic and everyone else, far more disturbing to me is that through threats of violence and acts of violence accomplished by what is to become the equivalent of the infamous Nazi “Brownshirts,” those jurists who disagree with or might rule against Trump are now literally afraid for their lives and the safety of their families. The closer Trump inches to a potential win, the greater the threat is. So in politics, opposers are not running for reelection for they are running for their lives, and in the justice system even judges are intimidated by his threats of “I am your retribution.” The course of personal safety is to “run out the clock.” None of us on this forum except for Professor Reich are yet to be threats of his “retribution.” Only when you are actually under that threat can you understand the pressures the justices may be facing. And why should they take that risk if the Supreme Court is already ripe to be purchased? Gangsters and oligarchs have always believed “Everyone has their price,” not only in financial incentives, but in fear for themselves and their loved ones.
Turning their backs on the whole mess are the ultra-wealthy capitalists and their corporations who could unitedly denounce Trump and stop funding the Ultra Right demagogues. Politics now runs on money, and that gives the Ultra wealthy the power to support fascism or end it before it becomes our new reality. But they have not nor will not. They will carry the shame of their support of fascism and use of threats of retribution through violence of to their graves. And it is all for money and power.
So back to my reoccurring theme, the ultimate threat is not Trump nor fascism, It is the system of Capitalism and supporting this system is our irrational belief that somehow it can be reformed and controlled. So again, “Why is Capitalism so rotten?” The answer is, because it has become an untamable monster and we need an economic system that limits wealth accumulation and power while assuring that the basic necessities of all are met. Communism and Socialism are failed systems because of the reliance on a centrally controlled economy. First we need a rational humane locally based economic system and then from that comes a true representative governance.
Under Trump and the removal of all regulation, Capitalism will fall as did Soviet Communism. When it does, we need to have developed a new system to replace it. Until then, you might get to visit me in either “Camp Troublemaker" or "Camp Vermin."
Here is an alternative. It may be the key to provide for a future.
https://www.proutinstitute.org/policy-solutions/economic-democracy-the-alternative-to-corporate-rule
Only if enough people vote for trump! I still believe that true Americans are the majority and they will never support trump or his plans for (against) America!
I WISH that I had as much optimistic faith in the denizens of this land as you do! :)
But I keep on seeing too much which makes me believe otherwise. :(
Just like Vlad The Butcher POOtin and his evil criminal oligarchs wanted.
Indeed, as to, "once a GOP gains control of our military, there is little hope of a decent future for our children or anyone else's on Earth."
We need to take steps, but I don’t see how they can be military. Individual National Guards might be appropriate, but they are under control of governors, and would not be used by the very states that need help.
I think it’s the RULES that Republicans are putting in place — not so much disruptions of the system — that are the problem, anyway.
Yes, the republicans are of the same mind of trump because they believe his lies and also think his plans will help THEM! The proof of that is in the republicans refusing to pass the border security bill, simply because trump told them NOT to! He has overstepped his boundaries so many times, but then he believes no boundaries apply to him.
The rank and file of Republicans in office seem to be in abject fear of Donnie, but the powerful rich guys in the back rooms manipulate him and know he’s a really a great tool for them to install a full-on oligarchy in the US.
I don’t think powerful guys believe a word he says. They just need him to keep saying it to provide cover for what they are doing out of sight of the rest of us who are focused on Trump. People who DO believe him are the ones who vote for him and get him and his minions elected, but the ones we need to fear even more are not even working out in the open.
This whole situation is F-ING AWFUL! [Sorry to be hollering, but I do that when I’m scared.]
Sounds like a conspiracy theory — and I agree with you. Some conspiracy theories are correct, sadly.
The GOP is not incapable of connecting the dots. They just simply choose not to. When the controversy is between doing the job they were elected for and the money (and the fame game that goes with it)? The GOP will choose money first and always. They have seen what tRump has accomplished all the while thumbing his nose at law and order and they all want their piece of the pie. No matter that it might very likely toss our hard won and hard work on the promotion of our democratic Republic on the garbage heap after 250+ years. Money always seems to speak louder to some people and it's a pity that the Republican party is mostly overrun by them. To our nation's detriment, I'm afraid.
Maybe some military can see what is going on. Some of the leaders can refuse to be criminals.
The GOP doesn't have to connect the dots. They just take orders. The Billionaire War Barons and Monopolizers who give the orders not only connect the dots, they make them.
While the Dems just react, or not.
It's so hard to watch. The Oligarchs are playing chess and the Dems are playing...what? Checkers I guess. Parcheesi. Except for the old Pelosi, and Biden sometimes, they seem perpetually surprised at all the "shocking" sh*t the Oli's come up with and send down. Usually to Texas.
Luckily McConnell seems to have lost some venom. He was the sharpest tool of the War Barons.
All of whom seem to support Putin, and of course, more war in the Sinai.
At any cost. Biden needs to stop the offensive weapons going to Bibi.
The MIC and Oiligarchs sure found his Achilles heal.
Once again I wonder, why didn't our Intelligence community see this coming?
Or did it?
After all, the IDF and Mossad intercepted the Hamas plan. Then sat on it.
Odd that it wasn't shared with their US IC counterparts?
Or did they?
How much did the TX National Guard know about Abbott's scheme (pardon, the Oligarch's scheme)? Their plans are so specific and long term and masked in fake MAGAism, when the goal is always just to take over our Gov from the inside out.
The coup was really the takeover of SCOTUS. One of their end goals.
McConnell's incredible, diabolical procedural skills and poker face slight of hand always caught the Dems by surprise. Or did they?
I wish we had another Pelosi in the Senate. But the Oli managed to take out Franken, so ...
She should be removed from the case since she is obviously prejudiced in favor of Trump!
AGREED. STEP DOWN
Mrs. Ex-Trump "Justice"!
100% she should be removed. Conflict of Interests. She owes Trump
Eileen Cannon, Mrs. Donald J. Trump IV. That Eileen Cannon?
That very one…:)
A wannabe Eva Braun. ;)
The American people deserve to know if trump is a spy for foreign entities. He sells us out and is nothing but a grifter. Eileen Cannon appears to be part of this conspiracy. It’s not a documents case, it’s a selling of our country’s secrets case, akin to treason.
I remember reading <somewhere > that Cannon was promised to be on the short list for a SCOTUS nomination. That’s a pretty big bribe.
Robert Jaffee, new on the circuit, seeking teacher's pet with oligarch newspaper info:
Watch out, this guy is an attacker. Not asking for data, attacking. Making a show of it.. I will do this again at the beginning of substacks , if you continue. ... Now, I know what is done to kids by bullies on their sites.. And, what does the US currently do, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...
Emergency use of a vaccine is full of problems, especially novel vaccines like Covid RNA. This is what the biochemists are saying now: SPIKEOPATHY
https://www.mdpi.com/2438302:
And, you got the 38 page, peer reviewed medical article regarding the problems with the novel vaccine?
And, the bioweapon by DOD , using ticks as vectors for multiple diseases, US DOD still hiding from this, even Tufts Medical from Boston publishing an article saying this is a 'conspiracy theory". The conspiracy is the LIE by the DOD that ticks are a US bioweapon, have gotten out or been released (unclear yet) since the 1960s and have caused enormous pain and suffering of the US population, much of it unknown, with MDS in cahoots. Actually, 4 nonfiction awards for the book, BITTEN by KRIS Newby..
I don't write about what I don't know or have not read in multiple credible sites. I do have varying opinions. Just not a group thinker.. Like the DNC is utterly failing us with its commitment to money and power and Biden. And, I am proud of my education. Worked hard for it. Did innovative work.
Attacking others is a lowlife activity, just like trumpty the mobster.
I’m not sure where you’re going with this? Are you accusing me of attacking Cannon? She’s made several rulings in Trump’s favor that have been overturned on review by the circuit court, and have left legal experts scratching their heads.
That said, I’m not getting into the vaccine debate with you again, because you’re conflating information, and I don’t have the time right now. Perhaps, another day when I have more time to discuss.
IF there were any such thing as poetic justice in this effed up world, he would LOSE the election, BADLY and 'BIGLY' (as the scummy one would say), and then be CONVICTED of all of these crimes, with no way to weasel out of them, save for his violent, POS MAGAt NAZI brown shirts coming to the federal Pen and trying to break their putrid orange fuehrer out. ;)
Indeed, it's highly unlikely the Florida case will go to trial, if at all, before the election. Judge Cannon having found the perfect reason not to move forward. All because of an issue presented to her which she has deemed a a serious item and she must give it "great thought" before rendering an opinion. In that way she both gives her benefactor what he wants while not inviting yet another scathing reprimand from the appeals court. And, if by some trick Chump is "elected" again, I guarantee most if not all the cases will be dismissed completely or conveniently completely forgotten. Much to the detriment of the American people And subsequent joy of Donald McRonald Chump.
True, and even if it does go to court, she’ll instruct the jury in a way that benefits Trump….:
Oh indeed! She just managed this week to derail any further court proceedings till the 12th of never. With a pronouncement that "Gee whiz and willikers the last question you posed to me and how it might impact the case and America is a good one that I'll have to give great thought to before I consider my answer (as in I'm not rendering one before the election, if ever)." And thus she avoids having to use her nonfunctioning brain to actually think before rendering her answer. Well, not entirely nonfunctional. She finally found a way to stymie the prosecution as well as the court of appeals so she could give Chump a free pass on this case (and probably one of the most important ones) AND avoid another reprimand from above. And it only took two reprimands for her to figure out another approach to accomplish Chump's agenda to have his case either thrown out or adjudicated in his favor once he gets elected. Yes, Chump may dumb as a fence post in general things but he is extremely crafty in knowing how to manipulate people because he can read them. I think that is why he changed from a Democrat to a Republican. I think he surmised that Republicans could be bought off much more easily than Democrats or Independents. So he switched parties and he bought a presidency (thanks to the RNC, NRA, and his constituants cum cult members). Oh, and a healthy dose of Putin and Xi interference. And he's doing much the same again in the court system. Whether any of the court cases against him he wins is up for grabs. Because if he loses he will most certainly appeal it all the way to the SC, whose conservative justices (3 appointed by him in his previous term) will almost certainly find a way to give him a pass. As they have done so already in the past.
No, Chump may not be the smart cookie he thinks he is but he more than makes up for it by being shrewd, conniving, crafty and corrupt. He's extremely good at sniffing out the most gullible among the population, reading what their anger is most focused on and using their anger at a government that they feel doesn't serve them. Not that Chump will do so but it's a great way to really rile up the people, giving them an often false narrative and promising changes that he has no intention of doing. He's merely using these issues to "buy" votes and money. The only thing he's interested in along with avoiding the criminal charges stacking up against him.
Yes, Chump is dumb as a fence post but who needs smarts when you are great at manipulating people? Chump has been manipulating people his whole career to get what he wants and has done pretty well for himself so far. I mean, he "won" a 4 year run as president. Once. And because of that, his many benefactors (the filthy rich and authoritarian dictatorial leaders who support HIM) are pitching in even more to see him get elected again. The Especially those that have loaned him millions of dollars like Putin.
So I would endeavor NOT to dismiss Chump for his level of stupidity because he more than makes up for it in cunning and an innate ability to "read the room" and to harness all that angry energy in his favor through manipulation to obtain what he wants. We've seen what a truly destructive person Chump is and even his loyal fans will admit readily that while they agree he's engaged in unlawful nefatious behavior (some 91 counts of it) they'll still vote for him. Even when they agree that he's a clear and preset danger to Ameica and should never be president again, they'll still vote for him. Go figure. Because I sure can't.
Well said…:)
It is my understanding, and I could be totally wrong, that the DOJ Special Prosecutor Jack Smith could request of a higher court that Cannon be removed from the case. If that is true, then why hasn't he done so?! That Florida Trump toadie, whether provided the black robe of a judge or not, clearly feels beholden to Trump, or she is simply as inexperienced and incompetent as judicial experts say she is or a combination thereof, should not be able to wield the power over our country by holding the power over the stolen classified documents case that she does. Her continuing powerful role combined with the recently revealed news that the FBI did not fully search all of the areas of Mar-A-Lago that they should have, combined with the recently revealed news that the DOJ/AG Merrick Garland refused to investigate and/or prosecute Trump because internal opposition to that kind of prosecution was too "hot" inside the DOJ - until the January 6 committee forced his hand - ALL of the above, and probably lots more unknowns, are contributing factors to the ongoing roaming around the country spreading lies and further treasonous ideas of the domestic terrorist tRump and his mob. WHY??!!! Maybe, finally, and at last the 3-judge unanimous decision today on Trump's insane and absurd claim of unfettered "executive immunity" will finally and at last move things along. In addition, I hope so profoundly that Fani Willis' poor personal judgement will not impair her ongoing work in Georgia; that is such a strong and righteous case. Why would she or anyone do anything to jeopardize it, and I hope her personal decisions have not done so.
Reading Tristan Snell's new book about "bringing down Trump" (he was the lead attorney on the "Trump University" case), and to do superb legal work against the slippery ability of Trump to elude justice, focus-focus-focus is imperative. Three judges today helped America. Even if America has not yet turned the corner away from this horrific era of tRump, maybe we can at least SEE the corner off in the distance and if we just keep on moving towards it...... there is hope.
I agree and blame it on Garland. First off his reason for trying the case in Florida is false as the crime was committed in DC when Waltine Nauta moved the boxes our of the White House to the plane. Garland said he moved the case to the place where the crime was committed, It was committed in DC, not in Florida
Second he specifically chose Aileen Cannon, blaming it on the wheel (chance named after the Wheel of Fortune), which is patent bull shit.
Garland is the Republican inside man. He hasn't prosecuted the insurrectionists in congress, has not prosecuted the rapist Matt Gaetz, has not appointed a special counsel to prosecute Ivanka and Jr, though there is hard evidence of their crimes and corruption, but couldn't wait to appoint David Weiss as special prosecutor of Hunter.
And ultimately I blame Joe for appointing this fifth columnist as AG.
Yes, she's a Trump appointee and she "owes" him.
I agree! Unfortunately, He has more coverage than any criminal I have ever seen. The media is afraid of him. They could get caught in his cross hairs of lies and slander and maybe even loose their jobs. The Democrats keep appearing weak. The Republicans that want to help are afraid to think for themselves.
These are court cases, democrats have nothing to do with it. It’s Trump appointed judge Cannon that’s been a thorn in the case, and appears to be in cahoots with Trump.
Indeed-Cannon that’s been a thorn in the case, and appears to be in cahoots with Trump and indeed, she is bought and paid for and like our not so illustrious stench of a Supreme Court, a political hack, a complete crony for Trump and the fascist GOP put in the last minute by Mitch & Trump, before he exited the door, now he hopes to run out the clock and renter that same door, if he does, dictator in chief, will unleash hell on earth unto America
Well said…:)
A stickler for grammar or punctuation? and here I was making a compliment, give me a break.
I was complimenting you. How did I offend you? I apologize.
I think The Media Moguls are part of the American Oligarch, GREED SQUAD. Plain & Simple.
It’s the era of $ $$ $$$ $$$$ only that matters and they don’t give a damn about anything but Their Bank Accounts. Not You, Not America, Not Me, NOT Your Children and not your grand children, NOT Democracy itself; which has made their lives & businesses possible. Vile!!!!!
Perfectly put.
So much that depends on the court of public opinion and this is where we need to keep the focus on. Just as he claims he is persecuted by Democratic witch hunt we can hammer say that he is being protected by Republican judges. The evidence is overwhelming and it can be shown over and over. Innocent people would want to go to court and clear their names, the delay is a sign of guilt. Why is he not willing to defend himself and instead is trying to delay?
We don’t need to depend on the judges and hope all this is settled before the election. When the indicted says they are immune they are not denying that they committed the crime, just that they have a “pass”.
The jury is the voters and we have the evidence and a defendant who isn’t defending himself. We ought to be able to win this.
This is SUCH an important point..where is
the Democratic pushback against the continuous lies?
Sadly, "ought to" are the operative words above, and they discount the myriad brown shirt, MAGAt masses who (brainwashed or not) DEMAND fascism, and that their putrid orange POS DESPOT be installed into power over all of us. :( :(
Those brown shirt / red hats are not enough to elect him. They won’t change and they don’t bring more people to their side. I think they scare people away.
No, they're not entirely incapable of thinking for themselves as Cheney and Kittzinger have shown but they are incredibly afraid of the retribution they and their families might be exposed to if they disagree with tRump and the rest of the turncoat GOP members Personally, those in office who are afraid of that whole dynamic should quietly resign their positions for some sort of innocuous reason and let the states decide who will replace them (hopefully with Democrats who are up to the task of returning this nation back to it's democratic roots).
It’s not only tRUMP on trial. The U.S. justice system is on trial. I, for one, am skeptical that our justice system is up to the task. And what is at stake? Our democracy.
Phil, I advise we follow Special Counsel Jack Smith’s lead, who recognizes nothing can be done about Aileen Cannon’s foot dragging as long as she’s not in violation of some major protocol, and focus, instead, on the J6 case, wherein the Judge (Tanya Chutkan) is as committed as the rest of us to expediting the proceedings. Moreover, regardless of the seriousness of the Mar-A-Lago case, everyday people, overall, view the J6 case as far more grievous.
Here I would note, though the Professor’s proposal of figuring out some way of lifting the stay on J6 pretrial proceedings, while Trump’s claim of absolute immunity is being litigated, is our best option— particularly seeing Trump then would have a vested interest in precipitating the litigation—I question whether outside, public pressure could have any impact.
Jack Smith should have asked to voir dire Cannon for bias as soon as she accepted the case.
She should not have accepted jurisdiction in case # 1 per local rule and per a published 11th Cir decision, and IMHO now she has a duty to stand for voir dire on bias.
28 U.S. Code § 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge
(a)Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his [or her] impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
In addition to her questionable conduct, she is married to Josh Lorence, a restaurant executive, whose employer may be tied to Trump.
Daniel, While, unlike you, I’m not an attorney, I have difficulty accepting, were Jack Smith to have recourse that had a reasonable shot at succeeding, he wouldn’t have pursued it.
Anyone, even you, can file a complaint against Cannon at the 11th Cir, Ct. of Appeals. the standard is the "appearance" of bias.
https://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/judicial-conduct-disability?fbclid=IwAR2xcadqadXE37Am-ps_CKGwiLK9Udt-gklQx4LzAB2bfyb1P9tNodDQtvQ
Daniel please, you're the lawyer and perhaps could, easily file that complaint of judge Cannon for all our children's sake!🙏
I have little gravitas. Need people like retired Cir Ct. judges.
Daniel, In my view, the point is not whether anyone can file a complaint; it’s whom does the layperson consult to learn whether a complaint has a shot at succeeding.
Get a lawyer. If you check the web site for the Judicial Conference, you will find numerous examples.
1. Code of conduct.
https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-united-states-judges
2. How to file a judicial complaint. "You may file a complaint about a federal judge who you have reason to believe has committed misconduct or has a disability that interferes with the performance of their judicial duties.".
https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-conduct-disability/faqs-filing-judicial-conduct-or-disability-complaint
A party before the court is supposed to file a motion asking the judge to recuse as soon as evidence of bias is discovered.
Daniel, can Jack Smith ask to voir dire Cannon for bias now?
I emailed her superior as soon as I learned she was the judge. She should not have been the judge in this case for the numerous reasons stated.
That being said AND on that I do agree with you. NONE of the judges in most of the cases pending against tRump have even remotely considered removing themselves from these cases and won't unless forced. And that goes for the SC justices who SHOULD recuse themselves and don't do so mostly because they know the only way they can be forced from a case is if they are impeached. And, I wager, that will go as well for them as tRump's impeachments went. Even though he HAD committed these crimes with undeniable evidence attached, he got a free ride from his good buddies in the Senate. I'd expect an impeachment against SC justices would likely go the same way. Talk about justice being blind. In this case, I'd wager they're deaf as well. I'd say the questionably conservative 6 tend to exhibit the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" train of thought. At least when it comes to Republicans in office. I find it both hugely humorous and yet incredibly despicable at the same time. The GOP waste no time in admonishing and demonizing the Democrats to eliminate or prosecute members among them who've displayed, let's just say, less than ideal behavior. But, in the next breath, will give a known adulterer, thief, and all around criminal a walk on truly egregious rhetoric and behavior. And saying things like it's "only locker room talk" when such is obviously not the case and "it was only a peaceful political protest" which flies in the face of what was graphically displayed by the media right in front of the viewing public. It's a true conundrum to say the least.
HOT OFF THE PRESS!!!!!!!!!!!: https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-loses-presidential-immunity-appeal-against-jan-6-lawsuits?utm_source=Common+Dreams&utm_campaign=e51a35871c-Court+Says+No+Immunity+for+Ex-President&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-47992a9c7b-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D
Finally some good news!!!
The Trump Crime Family already copied and sold all of the really important documents. How do you think Jared scammed $2B from MBS? And want to guess why Cucker Tarlson is in Moscow right now?
Yeah, I just heard about that. I wonder if he can be prosecuted for treason. I hope someone is watching him closely and documenting everything he does.
The judge in that case is also a trump devotee and will shuffle her feet and find ways to hold up that case as well!
Trump defies all natural justice and laws of the universe. It’s astonishing how the US is careering down this rabbit hole.
What needs to happen is SOCTUS must define what happened on 1/6. Was the action taken by the goons sent by Trump to the capital considered an act of insurrection. SCOTUS will settle the mess with a decision. If they decide Trump insighted and led the mob on 1/6 then the individual states can decide whether or not to allow the past President to appear on the 2024 Presidential ballot.
And, OF COURSE, the "repackaging" of the insurrectionists as
"patriots" and now "hostages" have helped to alter the "reality"
of THE EVENT in some voters minds...
David--What fools these mortals be.
What TOOLS these morons be.
Scott--Ya that to. Defiantly not Craftsmen.
Read Harry Dunn’s book. It was an insurrection, no question.
Paula--I know it, and so does every member of SCOTUS, the problem lies in getting them to say it in terms, so the MAGA goon squad will understands it.
That boggles my mind, Donald. George Orwell must be spinning in his grave.
Doublespeak is like the voice of their 'god-savior' to these MAGAts. ;)
I’m not sure they even process the meaning. All that matters is that it comes out of his pie hole.
Paula--I remember thinking that date will never arrive, now it has come and gone. He saw it coming.
He was wise, Donald. I wish he hadn’t been right.
But NOW is when we need that definition, and it’s not yet on the horizon….
Pat--It is a necessity.
YESSSSS {and I AM screaming!}
Pat--This may sound strange, but I hear ya.
😬
That is up to Jack Smith, which he WILL do, given the chance.
David--The chance is the issue.
How many of the (ONLY ones which COUNT, CRIMINALLY thanks to the evil, POS Electoral 'College'!) 'swing states' are fully Dem controlled enough to take advantage of this ruling, EVEN IF it were to happen??
David--Your guess is as good as mine.
That's because most Americans seem to want the same entertainment value from Washington as from Hollywood. Just look or listen to comments from prospective voters about how "boring" or "exciting" a given candidate is. Trump's personality and ability is to harness that entertainment value should not be discounted. We want to be entertained, not governed! Just imagine is folks started Talking to Trump as he does. I have two nicknames for Trump I use when speaking of him (when I'm not in a serious discussion) - the Popeye cartoon character's "Wimpy" and "Bluto the Buffoon." Can't decide which is the better.
Unfortunately. They want an Entertainer-in-Chief, & they sure got it with Trump. Reagan had that advantage, too.
Maybe the Democrats' only hope is to nominate John Stewart or Stephen Colbert. Imagine Stewart/Colbert vs. Trump/Carlson!
Reagan, empty headed, was a great great communicator, but basically he was following somebody else’s script, the people with money loved it because they had him in the palm of their hand.
He did what they wanted and was a charming person…
100% Charm 0% Brains …
Mostly there is a loneliness factor in the trumpet 🎺 phenomena most voters feel abandoned by both parties . Money 💰 is running the show democrats and republicans. No concern about about the working poor . I saw a family father two teen boys and Mom at a Good Will ( Salvation Army south ) shopping the used clothing rack for back to school clothing …
Dad looked like a guy with a physical type job I’m sure they voted if they voted for Trumpet 🎺 because that’s the guys and gals 🎺 addresses.
No one else gives a damn about the working poor trumpet 🎺 may have done much for the poor but he had a good rap.
Clinton help destroy the Social safety system that many families relied on no one sits down and consciously chooses to become poor or to remain poor .
To the dumber than a rock MAGAt masses, the 'went right over their collective empty heads' Colbert of the past (Report) is now considered an abject, 'libtard traitor' by the brown shirts. ;)
Only if you consider sadism entertaining, Jaime. I don’t find anything about him the least entertaining.
THIS!!
Also, he has that very annoying, GRATING voice (he 'grinds' the end of every diarrheal verbiage, nonsensical sentence spewing out of it's putrid puckered orifice).
Definitely NOT a 'smooth talking' type, grifting con man's voice!
But his MAGAt worshipers keep on adoring their POS 'god-savior' anyway.
I agree. It makes me crazy when memes are sent around about ridiculous things that Drumpf has said as though it is some kind of comedy act and supposed to be entertaining. If that's what he wants - someone give him a show that we can just ignore and let the adults in the country run things.
Unfortunately, he has a show (National Politics) that gives him better coverage than anything else comparable. AND we watch. AND the networks feed off the ratings. Why would he, or anyone else, want to change that. Obviously, it's working just fine for him.
yes, I know. I just thought the voting people in this country would agree that it shouldn't be allowed. My hopes were too high. I expected more from a lot of people that I shouldn't have. I was naïve. So were the framers of our constitution. Who could have thought we'd be in this position?!
I have to disagree with you. The framers of our Constitution did not have mass communication, opinion polls, the telephone or TV, social media, automatic rifles, or any of the other physical instruments of society of today. If they did, obviously our Constitution would have been written differently - if at all in that form. I always rile at the argument we should look to the framer's original intent when addressing Constitutional issues, primarily because we live in a completely different world other than the conceptual/philosophical aspect. I was taught that the Constitution was a "living" document, able to be changed and updated (slowly and deliberately of course) with the changes in society and even technology. They clearly stated our society would change over time. That's part and parcel to the American experiment.
I was taught that it could be changed as well. And in the framers' defense - who would have thought we would be facing the garbage we are now. I feel like there are so many changes that should have been done already; like updates to the 2nd amendment for example.
They already have done this in the past, and it is at least part of WHY this scummy (S)Hitler wannabe was able to gain power in the first place. :( :(
A POS reality TV show may be responsible for helping DESTROY our (somewhat of a) democracy.
I have been using “insipid clown” for years, he’s so far beyond loathing that the dictionary is not much help. 🤷♂️
It's too bad we have to be adults in our interactions over Trump. Sometimes, I actually want someone on national TV, like in a debate, to deliberately make fun of Trump (like my 'Bluto the Buffoon' or yours) just to watch him explode. He does it, but we can see he hates being mocked. Sometimes though, what goes around comes around.....
They have not yet invented the pejoratives, expletives, and explicit disses to accurately describe that putrid, evil, orange blob of shit. ;)
For sure, this is a HUGE part of the current problem with a portion [too large a portion] of our electorate.
It is. I was actually taught in school that real politics - the day-to-day stuff - was naturally boring to the populace. Just like accounting (sorry Accountants!). That's why we have the entertainment industry. Unfortunately, social media has changed that forever.
Argh!
I call him the orange blob.
If there is a god, doubtful at this stage; this fat American FASCIST will die a horrible painful death. Or at least a Massive Stroke-where he cannot speak, waddle, or golf. Let’s see That, and I might think there could be a god.
You’re funny, Beverly. I especially like “waddle.”
His face— which fits with his sloppy, undisciplined and morally filthy persona-makes me call him “Oinky.”
🤣🤣🤣
I am disappointed and discouraged. He is controlling this process. I don’t understand his power.
he is also controlling the House vote on Ukraine funding- it feels like he won!! our country is being bullied
MAGA listens to Trump and Trump listens to Putin. Cowards or traitors or both!
And drag down America to be a powerless, useless, untrustworthy country. Unimaginable that this is happening BUT It IS Happening.
We were attacked from within.
THAT is precisely what these "strong"man <LOFL! DESPOTS do!
The MAGAt masses are way too brain dead to realize that what they 'see' as 'strength' is really abject WEAKNESS!
His supporters are racists. Trump’s racism is his main draw for the MAGA crowd. Hopefully there’s not enough of these fools to return him to “office.”
Douglas, there aren’t enough of them. It’s the cheating that can succeed if the vote for Biden isn’t overwhelmingly a win. That makes the cheating much harder to do. Another worry with many berating Biden on the Israel/Gaza/Hamas issue. We can’t afford the loss of ANY votes.
Everyone, Everyone needs to look and appreciate A President Is One Leader, ONE Man in a government of hundreds of congress people & One Leader of ONE Country- not President of the World. We’re in the midst of a national emergency because (R)s in the legislatures WON’T legislate to FIX our border!
How can an American president sign legislation when Congress Won’t DO Their Job???
And if he can’t be effective because of these ass-wipes here; HOW is he going to “make” Netanyahu and the ass-wipes in Israel do the right thing?
Joe can’t declare a “ceasefire” in Israel, people… and if Palestinians/Arabs here think writing in “ceasefire” on their ballot is going to do anything except help tRump they’re wrong. Remember- tRump’s Muslim ban…he hates you.
The white-Supremacists He IS Part of will round you up and put you and other Brown Folks into concentration camps and/or ship you out to a place that’ll kill you for your ideas.
Joe believes in a 2 State solution for Palestinians- tRump DOES NOT. Never Has & Never Will. I hope people REALIZE those FACTs. I too am frustrated by this destruction in GAZA and In America.
Our Society MUST join together to be a free society - united - Or Liberty & Justice For ALL will not even be a dream any longer!!!
This is the most important comment on this stream. We can WANT Netanyahu to act differently and we can think that Biden—who has more experience on this front than most people on the planet—“should” make something change in Gaza & Israel, but the idea that Trump would handle this better for the Palestinians is absurd. He has no commitment to that goal—whatsoever. They are not important to him. America needs Biden, who prioritizes our constitution and values and who cares about the freedom of other people, including the Palestinians and the Ukrainians.
YES, somehow the Muslim faction in this land have forgotten about SCUMp's, and his devout followers and minions', abject HATRED of them, and persecution of them way too quickly!
If they help the SHITler succeed in taking over this land by doing the above in Michigan and elsewhere, they will be destroying their very SELVES in the process, and will not be able to protest anything going on in Gaza at that point!
Gerrymandering-
The way of death-to-America from Within.
He may have to 'turn' as abruptly on that issue as he did on the border issue. (Even though the RepugnaF**KS still would use it against him due to following their scummy fuehrer's marching orders. :( )
Our democracy cannot afford for him to lose, PERIOD, FULL STOP!!
not true
how so?
Patricia Pustell ; I have had the same ideas. Maybe it's the death threats that he has made it difficult to tie him to, like the criminal mobster/terrorist that he is. It's a preview of what will come if he actually manages to get back in power! I cannot believe the latitude he has been given!
Yeah. The mobster/Putin connection also makes me wonder if Ivana’s death was a warning but that’s far out. Maybe she was I’ll, idk.
A guy who was ok with and made a joke about 83 year old Paul Pelosi getting hit with a hammer as he awoke still in his pajamas, is most likely not getting ulcers about offing someone ; especially a woman. He was quoted that he "treats women like Shit". His lawyers argued in a court of law that Trump should be able to murder his opponents (or anyone) and not be charged with murder. Immunity ; complete immunity. He wants concentration camps, likes Nazis...Get the idea? He is worse than Hitler! He calls our military who get imprisoned by the enemy ; Losers! His name for those who die in active duty ; Suckers! like the two young women and a man who died in the Middle East just a few days ago! HE is the loser! If he gets elected, the whole world will want to GET him! And not as a leader of any kind!
I suspect he has collected video tapes of thousands of people misbehaving. (After all, he was buds with Epstein!)
I'm sure Putin has shared with Trump lots of kompromat (gained by hacks of the RNC & various other surveillance) they have on Republican politicians to get them in line, which accounts for the sudden turnarounds in public positions of many Republicans on both Trump & Putin/Russia.
Jaime, that’s what I’ve been suspecting, too! Explains so much. I’m sure Putin also has dirt on Trump. Putin holds the carrot (business deals and adulation) and the stick (compromising documents, photos and videos).
Agree - there are common interests and mobster methods between Putin and tfg
Trump acts like a mob boss in an international syndicate headed by Putin. Some other mob bosses in this syndicate: Orban, Erdogan, Netanyahu, Modi, KJU, the Iranian leader, and at least when they were in power, Bolsonaro & Duterte. Xi may be like a godfather, pulling a lot of strings behind the scenes. MBS, too. Trump is in love with all these strongmen.
I would agree, (and DO), but, they are all so unabashedly SHAMELESS lately, that no matter HOW criminal, and 'perverse' said kompromat may be, it makes me wonder whether or not they would even care if they were 'exposed' at this point.
Such is their arrogant, belligerent, confidence in their abject power at this point. ;) :(
(Speaking to all of the Repugnaf**k pols, NOT SCUMp, who would probably BRAG to his adoring MAGAt brown shirt low lives about what went down in that Moscow motel room. ;) [puke])
There a few things that Trump will do anything to hide, including whatever happened in the Moscow hotel room & the various accusations of sexual assault, especially the underage ones. He pays hefty amounts of money to keep them quiet, & if that's not enough, he'll add some death threats.
Perhaps judges are receiving threats and responding to them in a way that protects them/their families.
MsLW, that’s another thing. Trump has threatened judges to their faces and their families. That should get him thrown in jail. If they are so afraid of the MAGA crowd, then we might as well hand the place over to them. What the hell?
We’ve seen this happen in other countries; criminals take over and government officials go along or pay the price.
Fear is a powerful force and DJT knows how to use it.
He’s been using mobster tactics all of his life.
Merrick Garland probably thought DJT would fade away….easy to blame Garland, but we don’t know what he was thinking or whether he would have had support from Joe Biden, et al. if he had acted earlier.
He is supposedly 'INDEPENDENT' of influence from the Chief Executive, so Biden's 'support' should not have even factored into the decision. ;)
"Appearances" otherwise (and a nebbish FEAR of them!) is WHY we are in this BS precarious legal/judicial situation currently! :( :(
E. Jean Carroll says he is nothing. I think it’s more about the network that vomited him up and continues to give him power. They hide in the shadows for most of America but there must be people that know who they are. It’s just ashamed they have been allowed so much power. They are the unelected narcissistic sociopaths grifting on society.
(Hypothesis: Threats of violence & video tapes of people behaving badly - after all he was buds with Epstein & Putin)
After skating through all of his dirty deeds unscathed, over the past seven years, surely we have to know exactly where this is all going; nowhere. I never thought that I would live to see this country so terrified of one "common" man that they would "allow" him to be above the law, even though they continue with their redundant mantra, 'no one is above the law.' PROVE IT!!!!!
The Republican party---- The majority of the members in this group have been severely beaten with a stupid stick. From speaker Johnson down to the bottom of the barrel where we found MTG. The actions taken by the House membership are considered to be un-Democratic in nature and Un-American to the majority of the voting public. Trying to impeach an elected official over policy issues not legal ones is an asinine attempt to remove a member through normal channels. The lost members of the House who still listen to the orange fat guy have no place representing anyone from anywhere. The Republican party has become sickened by Trump's lies and the pathetic political stories Fox News spreads to the idiots who follow the cries of the MAGA goon squad's dyslexic leader. It's time to turn the page on a chapter in this country's history that saw a crook's attempt to take over something that didn't belong to him, The United States of America. A country he will never understand. Hitler wanted desperately to see New York burn; Trump wants to see that happen to our entire country.
"Bravo "and well stated, multiply your comment by infinity, is how too, I and many others most undoubtfully feel.
Jon--Two in one morning, the stars must be in flux.
Can’t ‘like,’ but must agree.
I am feeling personally — and perceiving on this thread — a sense of this all coming to a head, as I am “at the end of my rope”!!! I am fairly well OUT OF PATIENCE and fearful of where we are right now, never mind even thinking about where this is heading.
SOMETHING is going to give … I hope it is a break in a positive direction, like Donnie’s house of cards falling down, and not the US of A imploding under the weight of that Orange Disaster.
Toby Keith's passing--
Donald Hodgins <silencenotbad@gmail.com>
8:53 AM (1 minute ago)
to 360, Kimberly, Robert, Dan, Donald
We lost a great American, a great talent, and a truly great man yesterday. At the age of 62 Toby lost his battle with stomach cancer and passed away at home surrounded by his family and a group of close friends. More than the man will be missed, his American theme which echoed through so many of his songs, sadly will have to be expressed through alternative voices. One of my favorites was, "Courtesy of the Red, white, and blue. Trump approached Toby and wanted him to redo the song using a title that reflected a different theme. After their meeting Trump left their get together with a slight limp. All we could hear was something about Keith's boot.
Sad when someone dies young.
Yeah, a nice image, though, eh? Mr. Keith’s boot and …. Someone’s something .. coming together with vigor. Even if only frivolous fiction, it’s still a nice image ..
Pat--His voice and the message it carried will be missed.
it sure is!
Toby Keith isn’t someone I respect in the least. He referred to the Democratic party as kooks in 2008, Trump gave him the medal of Arts (trump wouldn’t do that for someone he didn’t like), Toby Keith performed at Trump’s inauguration!
Toby Keith was outspoken on conservative topics. I say good riddence!
Seeking--I was referring to that one song, maybe there was room for improvement.
Pat--Tighten your cinch, this ride is just beginning. We're approaching the top of that steep climb at the start of all rollercoaster rides. The screaming is yet to come.
is that true? Did he really ask him to revamp the song?
Shanna--A little free verse as it were, no that didn't happen, but I wouldn't doubt he wanted to use one of Toby's songs at his rallies and he was refused.
I'm amazed Trump would ask. Most of the time Trump & other Republicans just go ahead & use a song without permission & then wind up being sued by the artist or songwriters.
ok, I was just curious. It seems like many of these, 'country' artists tend to agree with him.
I agree, Pat. So many of us are at the end of our rope(s). Something does have to give and I hope this morning’s verdict is the beginning of it.
The Right has downplayed what it means to be "impeached" and "indicted" for a felony to
the point where many people do not and CANNOT differentiate between crime and bad behavior! If "All politicians are greedy, self-serving crooks," then ANY and ALL actions are lumped into the category of expected (and oftentimes acceptable) behaviors.
HOW is trump's antics any different from all the other "crooks" in government? Maybe he is just BETTER at it?!? The words and terms are MEANINGLESS until the courts hold this monster ACCOUNTABLE... PLAIN & SIMPLE!!!
David, if by “better at it” you mean he makes threats, incites people to carry them out, carries grudges and has no moral standards (which is exactly what I think and bet you do, too!), he is indeed better at his crimes.
Thank you David. I agree!
David--The answer isn't simple, and it may not be plain, but I hope one is out there.
Donald - As usual you read my mind and express my thoughts much more eloquently than I can.
Avon--You're scaring me.
Who called him a 'nothing'?
E. Jean Carroll, and I hope it made his effing putrid orange head EXPLODE, or at least brought him that much closer to a full-on aneurism. ;)
I would humbly suggest you send this piece to both Florence Y. Pan and J. Michelle Childs. Perhaps they need a nudge in the right direction.
Your illustrations are perfect, Professor.
Anne
🌻💙🙏
Ex parte communications are not permitted! Need to enter an appearance before speaking to them.
The Judicial (NON-Political) Branch of our "Government" ALREADY KNOWS what needs to be done to stop Herr Trump. The problem is that they CHOOSE NOT TO DO their NON-Partisan jobs and uphold the laws. The Judicial (NON-Political) Branch of our "Government" is CORRUPT. So, how to stop Trump from running out the clock? Replace all CORRUPT Judges. That is the ONLY way.
Judicial Conference is on the job.
The Fox is guarding the Hen House.
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I truly believe that if he were to delay these trials beyond the 24 election there will be no stopping him.
A lot of folks in the country don’t like trump . They’re not polled but they vote . I’ve not been polled . Have you??
Douglas D ; I sometimes see a poll in my inbox. I don't trust it. who knows what's behind it?
Ya hard to know what’s legitimate in my email inbox. I got crooks emailing saying my order is processed and payment of $350 has been received and I didn’t order anything . And nothing is taken from bank account. They want me to contact them and they’ll try to get my account info so they can “help”.
Douglas D : yep. Sketchy.
Polling is broken for that reason. And the msm keeps spinning it, even though they know it is broken.
David Skoglund ; They want to sway public opinion, So they continue to trot out the polls. Unless it is Quinnipiac, or another known poll, I just ignore it. Fast forward or look at another news source, or podcast.
My brother and I both have gotten such emails, multiple times. We and you represent an "N" of three, but I'm guessing this experience online is universal. As a public service, spread the word. Part of an online response to a query about phishing was: "Send a copy of the email or the URL to the website to the U.S. government-operated website https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/report-phishing."
Me too, Laurie. Which may indicate how unreliable the polls are.
nope
I may have, but I didn't pick up the phone.
Mutiny by our armed service members would be necessary. A country wide strike, too! They do that in European countries!
There’s still the 14th Amendment. Fingers crossed.
Your suggestion is based on sound legal arguments. My question is why the prosecution isn’t pushing to move the case forward more quickly? You are absolutely right that the two remaining judges could decide the issue right now, so why haven’t they come and why hasn’t the prosecution pushed for this?, America Democracy can’t possibly survive another Trump presidency. I am a retired criminal lawyer, admitted in for states, and so I understand Trump’s lawyers wanting delay, but I cannot understand why the prosecution is allowing this, when they have a perfectly good solution!We
Hi Joyce. You're right.
If someone has HARD EVIDENCE, like an admission Judge Henderson is biased, anyone can file a bias complaint against her!
Rules for Judicial-Conduct and Judicial-Disability Proceedings
U.S. Court of Appeals - D.C. Circuit (.gov)
https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/home.nsf/Content/VL%20-%20RPP%20-%20Rules%20Governing%20Complaints%20of%20Judicial%20Misconduct%20or%20Disability/$FILE/RulesJudicialConductAndDisability20210101b.pdf
She should not have accepted jurisdiction in this case and now she has a duty to stand for voir dire on bias.
28 U.S. Code § 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge
(a)Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his [or her] impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
Hi Dan, forgive the mistakes. I dictated my comment. Did you have any experience with these judges? You and I know the code and understand it. I doubt a GOP appointee will adhere to it in today’s world!
No, I'm too old... but my wife was in the US Atty's office when Alcee Hastings was removed, and lots of judges have to at least stand for a bias hearing. DC Cir had obvious ideologues like Kavanaugh.
Several judges, like Maryanne Trump Barry and Alex Kozinski resigned in the face of a Judicial Conference investigations. https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/governance-judicial-conference
Yesterday, Senator Whitehouse said the Judicial Conference is investigating Thomas, with a possible referral to DOJ for prosecution.
I remember the Hastings case! And the he ran for Congress and won! Hopefully Thomas will face consequences. I knew Matyanne Trump Barry. I was truly surprised that she was involved in her brother’s fraudulent business transactions! So far, we don’t k ow that Judge Henderson has done anything wrong except delay. Judge Pan and Judge Childs need get off their you know whats and issue a decision immediately. If they don’t they are harming the vidity of the uocoming election!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYoNL4g5Vg
Oh really? Clarence Thomas? That’s excellent news.
That is at least promising news, since that arrogant, belligerent asswipe truly believes that he is immanently untouchable, and can do whatever TF he wishes, without ANY accountability or consequences, for the rest of his life!
And therein lies the problem. Define "reasonably" in today's culture, considering so many see the word as subjective, not objective. It's the muddying of the definition that causes so much debate over interpretation.
Voters should consider Trump guilty until proven innocent. The burden of proof is on him. So he should want to face the juries ASAP if he really believes he is innocent.
Exactly. If he were innocent, he would not be using all these delaying tactics. So, having no trial decision to base a decision on, the decision has to be based on the behavior up to the election. And he acts like a guilty man.
Sounds like Trump has been successful in creating his own Deep State in DC ‘s judiciary . And oh yes, in the U.S. senate too given the outcome over the border bill negotiations.
Let’s remind Americans that US border security rests more on the Ukraine Russian border than the Texas Mexican border. And fixing that more distant border crisis is a whole lot easier than fixing the southern border crisis which is caused by failed economies and its resulting cartel culture.
Failed economies in countries where peasants had their lives destroyed by the US and United Fruit corporation. Our CIA killed Guatemala’s democratically elected president (Arbánz) )when he proposed giving land grants to peasants who had suffered under previous regime debt slavery. (1954) Our greed for resources in South America created much of this!
Which party was in office then?
Driven/fully fueled by OUR land's need/DEMAND for (currently) illicit drugs as much from those screaming about the effing border as from elsewhere (if not MORE so!). ;)
Interesting that I have been thinking that a two judge ruling would suffice. I didn't know the name of the (apparently) MAGA judge until now. Judge Karen Henderson, yet another name that will live in infamy.
Well, it seems reasonable if two of the three - a majority - are agreed on the ruling, and if a simple majority is all it takes, then the third is irrelevant no matter what they rule.
Yes. Exactly. Which is, as professor Reich points out, the reason for wonder about why they haven't gone ahead and issued their ruling.
Some may claim that, to be credible, a fair hearing of dissent is called for before the other two judges enter a final judgment, but the operant word there is “fair,” and the delay is not fair. It is a ploy.
Here, here
Yes, yet another Carl Schmitt type to help bring down our democracy.
I agree, it’s clear that’s his strategy because he knows he’s guilty.
But why are we here now? It took Anthony Garland well over 2 years to appoint Jack Smith, waiting until after Trump announced his intention to run. Was Garland sitting on his hands? This whole process should have started 6 months after Garland was appointed
The same day in my opinion.
Yup!
Way way WAY too much hand-wringing and pearl clutching over the 'visuals' of appearing too partisan and biased!
The NAZIS and MAGAts were going to claim that NO MATTER WHAT, so WHY TF did they not start sooner, to SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY (or at least ATTEMPT to!)?!?
Joe appointed a squeamish, nebbish chihuahua to do a pit bull's job. :(
(Even if it was a nice 'in your FACE' to scummy purple turtleboy, Moscow Mitch as payback for his BS at the end of the Obama term, at the time.)
January 7 is when this should have started.
WELL, it sort of did, as Trump WAS impeached over it, but Republicans stonewalled …But I agree Garland was too slow.
Slow on purpose to create a firestorm of
Of negative Anti Trumpet 🎺 publicity at the point of most impact the election (90 day prior ) if court cases started too soon by Election Day it’s forgotten
“0ld News” . Information has an expiration date the public’s span of attention is short.
I appears that trumpet is going to be overwhelmed in the Media with increasingly negative saturation coverage of his anti democratic anti American con jobs , criminal conspiracy, threats , and generally bad stuff he did , had others do , or did himself…
Stay tuned same Bat Time ;
Same Bat Channel …
I can only hope it all drives him to reveal his true colors … he is the poster boy for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and I want to see more and more of it. It is NOT pretty, and America needs to recognize that.
However, I think we didn’t know enough, then…the Brad Raffensperger tape is what really opened my eyes.
Good question Ashley! I suspect that what we’re seeing is in part the monetization of justice (it’s very easy to put poor people in jail) and laws that allow those who can afford legal services an opportunity to draw out the process. But there is a “RULING CLASS” deference involved as well…that we should respect the office of president and its former occupants (Nixon’s pardon comes to mind).
The cure for American democracy is to remove money from our electoral politics. The rich 🤑 can’t win elections without rigging the game (CITIZENS UNITED money is free speech outcome is screaming one citizen one vote 🗳️ is wrong). All the disinformation and corruption of public institutions by money 💰 and little or no accountability to existing laws is intentional. The press has little leverage to get at the truth even if they wanted to which several powerful outlets seem laser focused on the opposite. Why? It’s the $$$$$$$ stupid!
…echoing GHW BUSH’s admonition that his loss to Bill Clinton was “…It’s the economy stupid!” Not directed at Ashley or anyone else in this discussion. My bad.
Sad days that aren’t getting any better. I am losing my patience. Even if just the two judges respond and rebuke Trump, he will appeal. From the time of the insurrection, which I might add, many watched on live television, we have been in a holding pattern. I want to get off this train wreck.
If it is legally viable for the two Biden- appointed judges to issue their ruling independently to move things forward, that’s good news, indeed. Whether or not those two justices have the will to do so is a separate issue. However, Robert, you suggesting its viability feels significant and promising. I would like to see this option discussed more publicly. The more widely the legal viability of this option is weighed, the more energized, the voting public who recognizes Trump‘s agenda can be. For decades, the Republicans have tried to exploit every vulnerability of the system. The more conscientiously, we support legitimate paths to overcoming stonewalling, the better. Either it prevails, or it doesn’t, but one step at a time. I am willing to send this question to Preet Bharara on his podcast. If other readers would like to help draft the question, I’m happy to review this message board later to pull something together. It’s 4:40 AM in the morning right now and I’m headed back to bed! I’ll check in later. And I certainly don’t need to be the only person floating this question, more publicly, for discussion on any podcast whatsoever. I am mindful that the courts are supposed to be above public opinion. And any options exercised by judges with integrity are also open to be exploited by Trump-apologist judges. I remind myself that there have been any number of Trump-appointed judges who have had the integrity of ruling against Trump all along. Judges exercising impartiality is ultimately what it’s supposed to be about.
Alison, there’s another podcast, “Justice Matters” with another federal prosecutor that I watch regularly. He teams up occasionally with Brian Taylor Cohen. (I can’t pull his name to mind-it’s 2:15 am here!) IANAL, nor am I knowledgeable about podcasts other than watching, but if I can help, I’m willing.
His name is Glenn Kirschner.
Yes, another excellent MSNBC 'regular' as well!
Don, thanks a million!
YESSSSS.
The Left must be willing to use every legal lever and exploit every legal pivot point. The R;s have played fast and loose {jamming up the House and Senate, not the least, and packing SCOTUS}, and Dems have to fight fire with fire.
Justice delayed is justice denied; that seems the essence to me. We saw Trump lead an insurrection, for years ago. This is what you get, not doing snythin decisive against it
Is there a parallel process here? Just as Republicans in the House (and Senate) fear opposing him, as justices fearing a public uprising if he is declared to have no immunity and did cause an insurrection?
Sounds like political/legal/security paralysis and feels as if he is playing (toying) with the world to serve his personal needs.
Tragedy in Greek/epic proportions.
That says it, doesn’t it. Terribly sad and true.