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Xplisset's avatar
2dEdited

Could be? How about WiILL BE. This is Payback Policy in plain sight. It’s power that stops governing and starts punishing. Not “rule of law,” but rule by warning which ie hurt the targets today so everyone else learns to flinch tomorrow. I’ve written about this.

Listen, it never never never stays contained. First it’s “them.” Then it’s “anyone.” Then it’s you. That’s the whole point of Payback Policy: make fear the message www.xplisset.com

Tom van Doormaal's avatar

Xplisset: the word Pay Back policy seems wrong to me. It is to close to Trumps retribution.

I was born in Europe, 40 days before Adolf Hitler committed suicide in his bunker, in the rubble of former Berlin. I studied a lot about this close history, I was told a lot about the occupation, I visited the concentration camps the Germans used to transport millions of Jews to the Vernichtungslager.

In this story of Bob it adds all up. I thought I made alarmist comparisons with Hitler and tried to brake them. But it is right to make them: the Gestapo is now ICE, the army almost toes the line, the international adventures are in full swing.

There is only one hopefull difference: in this fase Hitler scored maximal support of the people. This regime is so incompetent that it "only" scores some 40%. That is much and it can rise, when succes is reached with kidnapping the ayatolla's of Iran, or with the Anschluss of Greenland. My former prime minister, now SG of Nato, has a role in controlling the chosen madman; maybe he can.

Paula Dean's avatar

Our Hitler is also creating concentration camps. He is such a thin-skinned malignant narcissist that I worry about the apex of his retribution: when defeat is looming and he knows he will be facing dire consequences, what is to stop him from blowing up the world?

Merrill's avatar

Trump and his carefully selected administration is at war with America. The America we know and love. POTUS is the real terrorist threat. Potentially, we are all collateral damage.

William L Miller's avatar

Merrill,

Yes, an illegal war is underway. What happened to Renee Nicole Good can happen to many of us because the legal system in America is corrupt with bad doctrines and lack of enforcement of felony crimes including the crime of insurrection by federal officials.

What we are seeing in Minneapolis with the criminal murder of an innocent US citizen by an ICE agent is the result of the punishable felony crime which is the ongoing insurrection led by Trump. Insurrection is outside the scope of official acts and invalidates any immunity for Trump and others in the federal government.

Trump is the sociopathic narcissist acting head of a lawless fascist autocracy that was planned and launched in 1971 with the Powell memo and led by an organization to attack and remove democracy and create a corrupt legal system in America that permits the felony crime of insurrection and the murder of innocent citizens. The organization was led and funded by Republicans, corporations, billionaires, and Christian nationalists who hate science and oppose a woman’s healthcare including abortion.

The corrupt legal system in American has intentionally created inhumanity and enabled an ongoing insurrection in America to create a lawless fascist autocracy that violates the Constitution and federal criminal law. The insurrection began on January 6, 2021, and continued in 2025 as planned in PROJECT 2025 by the Heritage Foundation. From 2021 to 2024, Biden, Garland and Jack Smith were blocked from enforcing the law and putting Trump the insurrectionist in jail. The corrupt SCOTUS created by Republicans illegally refused to enforce Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to bar Trump from being on the ballot and holding office which was illegal support of the insurrection.

Doctrine is not law. Qualified immunity as doctrine should never exist and protect the unjustified ICE murder in Minneapolis or anywhere in America. But doctrine is being widely used as an escape from violations of law. Doctrines make a mockery of the rule of law. ICE acted outside their official duty in Minneapolis which was finding and detaining illegal immigrants not replacing domestic police and unjustified murder of innocent citizens.

Murder is a crime with no time limit in the statute of limitations for murder in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The 10th Amendment authorizes states to enforce the criminal law like murder committed in their state. Therefore, the ICE agent can legally be prosecuted based on evidence of probable cause in the criminal action outside the scope of ICE official duty which was not detaining illegal immigrants and without any threat if bodily harm to the ICE agent.

As mentioned, Trump, his administration and ICE are conducting an insurrection that violates federal law.

The federal criminal law in the United States is created by Congress and then described in Title 18 Part 1 of the U.S. Code which has multiple Chapters.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I

The crime of insurrection is defined in 18 U.S. Code Chapter 115 Part I - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115

Specifically, the crime of insurrection is defined in 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection. The Code clearly states who is guilty of the felony crime with this language:

“Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

What is the solution? The law must be enforced on insurrectionists including Trump, members of his administration, Republicans in Congress, and six justices on the Supreme Court. When Democrats get elected to the presidency and take control of Congress in 2028, the insurrectionists must be arrested, convicted and imprisoned. And the corrupt legal system must be revised which includes removing corrupt doctrines including qualified immunity.

Alan Goldhammer's avatar

Agree as to all of the above but add that an associated purpose is to make Trump and his henchmen richer. What Trump calls tariffs is extortion and his agreement to reduce these are mostly bribes to himself.

Judith Wynn's avatar

You have helped settle my panic-driven desire to emigrate. May as well stay were I am and fight it out.

William L Miller's avatar

Judith,

Glad I helped. Democrats just need to enforce the law against insurrection and they can also fix affordability which is a problem created by the Republicans and corporations who are controlled by billionaires and oligarchs. Reset the taxes on the top 1% and 5% to 1965 rates and use the revenue to fix affordability of healthcare, housing, food, child care, wages, family leave from work, and higher education.

JudithMontreal's avatar

"Potentially, we are all collateral damage."....

So is everyone else on the globe at this juncture if his ego driven warmongering continues. The madman is in control of how many nukes???.

Robot Bender's avatar

The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists estimates that the US currently has about 3,700 nuclear weapons.

Dennis King's avatar

That would be enough to incinerate the 370 largest cities in North America ten times over. By the World's established rules of military engagement, the first wave of nukes would be released upon weapon silos and military installations, but should these already be emptied, what would be next? For human survival, access to the store of weapons of mass destruction must be removed from the clutches of serial mass murderers.

Pamela Mendenhall-Howard's avatar

Robot......enough to kill the planet!!!😢

Beverley Short's avatar

It only takes one nuclear attack on Iran, Judith, to start a chain reaction involving other Nuclear Powers and bring about a nuclear winter in the Northern Hemisphere that will cause mass starvation due to crop failure and general upheaval of human and natural life.

Connie Larsen's avatar

202 225 3121 or 202 224 3121

Will reach any member of congress!! Call n tell them to rein in trump n his kkkabinet!

We the people pay them to work for us! Not have their head up trumps a$$!

N no nobel! Write n tell them!

https://www.nobelprize.org/contact

Charles J. Gibson's avatar

Below, is the final edition of the anthem, "No Kings". The accompanying music is nearing completion. When the recording of it is finished, a link to it will be posted here. Thank you for your patience. Please remember: This is an anthem for all of the USA.

“No Kings”

An Anthem for America

By The People, for The People

Verse 1

Two hundred fifty years gone by,

Our patriots fought and bled,

They carved a path for unity,

That wrote our country’s name;

Now chaos threatens our union,

Yet the Constitution shows,

A promise for the future,

From our Founding Fathers long ago!

Chorus 1

No Kings! No kings! No kings!, we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Fear and hate will not stand!

Verse 2

Through trials, storms, and oppression,

This vision still holds true,

Democracy’s enduring light,

Belongs to me and you;

Our Constitution guides us still,

From division and through strife,

It calls us back to Liberty,

The heartbeat of our life!

Chorus 2

“No King! No kings! No kings!” we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Injustice will not stand!

Verse 3

Thrones and crowns and kings alike,

The warning signs we face,

Our love of country sees clearly,

Tyranny’s ruthless shame;

Both red and blue we gather now,

Drawn by equality’s flame,

Our common mission raised in song,

For the USA!

Chorus 3

“No King! No kings! No kings!” we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Demagogues will not stand!

Pamela's avatar

Very nice. I will look forward to the music with it. Thank you.

Ruth Sheets's avatar

Merrill, and that is treason, the "enemy from within" and our senators and representatives should start treating this as treason, because it is!

Carol H's avatar

I have seen pictures of ICE agents in the New York Times, etc. They wear military clothing and helmets and masks; they carry very large guns. They look like they are operating in a war zone. In fact, the war zone is the blue city where they are stationed. These war zones are creations of this administration. Nobody is safe in a war zone.

Victor's avatar

Yes, Carol, and that's the point: to anger and intimidate. Treat ICE as the protective force they claim to be. Focus instead on each instance of cruelty, brutality, and arbitrariness. Build up the case against the operation itself, not individual ICE agents or units. Staying focused on the real enemy is critical!

ISOequanimity's avatar

His own morality. That’s what he said is the only limit on his conduct. https://thehill.com/policy/international/5680714-trump-morality-international-law/

Rich Penc's avatar

more like mortality. No one lives forever. Unfortunately the good die young, as Billy Joel once sung.

ISOequanimity's avatar

I wish 47 long life and good health so that ICC can prosecute and convict the lot of them for war crimes and sentence them to the notorious prisons of member nations: La Makala (Congo), Kamiti (Kenya), Muhanga (Rwanda), and Mendoza (Argentina). I doubt that Niedermeyer will have access to mayo. But “Susie” Wiles (WH COS, former corporate lobbyist, and the wind beneath 47’s wings) reportedly makes casseroles for friends and neighbors. Maybe that will work on prison guards in Congo. I’m not proud of the schadenfreude but it keeps my head from exploding. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/susie-wiles-trump-cabinet-chief-of-staff-net-worth-b2682925.html

Pam Reese's avatar

I pray every night about maniacal Orange. I am glad my parents and grandparents and brother are dead to avoid living through this time. If my brother was still alive Trumps et.al actions would KILL him

Beverley Short's avatar

No it wouldn't Pam, because you would go to your brother's side and stay there until he was able to cope without your support, or the end of the Trump Regime, whichever came first. I wish for all of those frightened seniors in the USA, that a good relation or neighbour or friend comes to their side and stays there for as long as they are needed. That's what I will pray for from here, in the south Pacific. Prayers know no time nor distance.

Beverley Short's avatar

And as Trump has no morality, ISO, that translates to NO limit on his conduct. And he knows this.

ISOequanimity's avatar

For now. I have faith that ICC will step up. And if that fails, there’s always the afterlife. Like Keyser Söze said, “the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.”

Charles J. Gibson's avatar

Through the history of civilization, including today, devils walk our earth.

Victor's avatar

Anyone who supports Trump obviously shares his "morality." So what is Trump's morality? Here is a revealing instance: "The woman was disrespectful. Very disrespectful" to the ICE agent who shot Renee Good. Moral: Respect, obey. If you don't, you will die, and you will have only yourself to blame. Death penalty for exercising 1st Amendment rights.

ISOequanimity's avatar

Says the convicted felon found guilty of dozens of counts of fraud and liable for SA and defamation. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-wants-to-make-disrespect-grounds-for-ice-violence.html

Robert Nemoyer's avatar

Those nice Jails Trump is sending undocumented immigrants to, they are known for torturing the prisoners. 4 have already died. Well, there aren't any gas chambers or ovens, so we should be glad for that. :(

Brooks Keogh's avatar

no gas chambers-yet

Catherine Logsdon's avatar

Maybe that's why he wants to control Venezuela's oil. He can build the biggest gas oven in the world.

Brooks Keogh's avatar

good one,catherine-and bury the remains in greenland?

MKW's avatar

“Nazi officials established the first concentration camp, Dachau, on March 22, 1933, for political prisoners. It was later used as a model for an expanded and centralized concentration camp system managed by the SS.”

“What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison (in the modern sense) is that it functions outside of a judicial system. The prisoners are not indicted or convicted of any crime by judicial process.”

“The major purpose of the earliest concentration camps during the 1930s was to imprison and intimidate the leaders of political, social, and cultural movements that the Nazis perceived to be a threat to the survival of the regime.”

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/concentration-camps-1933-39

JudithMontreal's avatar

Now, the talk is that he wants to convert Amazon warehouse for that purpose....

It's all quite insane.

Tom van Doormaal's avatar

Shit hole countries enought to build them in; the sacred soil of America must not be polluted

Anon's avatar

Tom - Our soil was polluted a long time ago when the Native Americans were murdered all in the name of expansion and the government. That was by the whims of rich white men, too.

Tom van Doormaal's avatar

Yes, absolutely. I was only hinting at the Nazi practice: the murder camps were in Poland, or south Germany, far away from the 'civilised' world....

Catherine Logsdon's avatar

Trump is a paranoid Schizophrenic. We know he is paranoid, he believes everyone is out to get him. His multiple personality is caused by the voices he hears both inside his mind and the people he is surrounded by. I came to that unprofessional opinion because he uses the words: everyone says, people tell me, I am never wrong.

Putin's voice seems to be the loudest. Fox news is just the echo chamber he relies on to re-enforce "everyone". Who is going to be the last voice he hears. Who will tell him it's time for the nuclear bomb to be launched? And where will the voice tell him to drop it?

Or am I the one who is paranoid?

Dale Greer -- Dagnar's avatar

Catherine it's not you being 'paranoid'. Example: My youngest brother came home from college (40 + years ago) diagnosed as 'paranoid schizophrenic' hearing voices, talking to himself, seeing 'things' where no one else - could - connecting unconnectable dots..... He's lived alone on the family acreage since mom died in 2011. My other brother near by keeps an eye on him to help when needed. Curiously that isolation has been his 'salvation' ~ he can't deal with the 'real world' ~ And (IMO) neither can djt so he 'creates' his own world and only the "special few" are welcome in/to it ~

Catherine Logsdon's avatar

Thanks for sharing this. I would guess there are many coping methods for people afflicted with this disorder. It is just a shame our president uses cruelty to escape his real world. I wish you and your brother a peaceful, gentle life.

Joanne Beck's avatar

my heart hurts when I think of concentration camps/internment camps any type of controlled containment of a human being. It's stupidity at it's best. No thought, just reaction. I can't. I just can't.

Paul Cesmat's avatar

If he does blow up the world, it will be "their" fault. "They" will have made him do it. "They" were vermin anyway.

Tom van Doormaal's avatar

Yes Paula, that is the fear that inspires me...

Helen K. Haynes's avatar

Trump's eventual exit plan worries me too.

Gordon Berry's avatar

From life?!! (his own? - ..

Robot Bender's avatar

Your concern is valid. Mary Trump (his niece) says if he thinks he's going down he'll try to take everyone with him. I believe her.

Paula Dean's avatar

I do too! He has the nukes to take out the planet many times over. Nothing will survive and, sorry Elon Musk, but Mars is uninhabitable. We are nowhere near to finding a Planet B.

Joan Earle's avatar

I saw this post on my FB today: "ICE going door to door? That's why Anne was hiding in that attic. just FYI."

Edie Sadowski's avatar

tRump won't be gone soon enough 🙄

Ruth Sheets's avatar

Paula, Trump has dementia and he is living in a fantasyland of his brain's making. It is being enhanced by Miller, Vought, Vance, and the rest of Trump's toddler pool, the ones with no moral compass, no ability to empathize with anyone. That is why they will have to be stopped and it looks like We the People are going to have to stop them because we have no one else.

Paula Dean's avatar

Utter monsters, the bunch of ‘em!

Pamela Mendenhall-Howard's avatar

Paula.....good question! And vey scary! 💙💙💙🇺🇸

Timothy Blevins's avatar

This one is Bishop Ranch farms.

Alan Goldhammer's avatar

He is already trying to blow up the sane world.

Opal's avatar

Yes, ICE is the new Gestapo [or expanded KKK?] . Wherever their hatred comes from, We the People must do whatever we can to unmask the real terrorists/enemy within beginning with ICE agents. Unmask the enemy within and go from there. Only cowards wear masks to conceal their identity when acting maliciously against innocent people Outright murder of a woman in Minnesota is a prime example of why ICE (so-called) agents must be unmasked and held accountable.

Anon's avatar

Opal - Add in the eight who were shot before her. Add in the disappeared. Add in the people who are being detained now and possibly charged later. Add in….

John Hofer's avatar

There is also the phenomenon of growing toward the Fuhrer, a further coordination of groups, associations, institutions, falling into line. We have seen this already with universities and law firms and some of our military. We have no reason to believe it will not continue to grow.

The point is that this fascist state now has legs and can now go anywhere, meaning anything that we have previously seen in history. We know the horror that has happened, and we must realize it still can happen again, and again, and again.

We must be brave.

Tom van Doormaal's avatar

I'm afraid so, rhyming with the thirties...

Dale Greer -- Dagnar's avatar

which seems to be trumps play book, i.e. Mein Kampf on his bedside table (?)

Charles J. Gibson's avatar

Below, is the final edition of the anthem, "No Kings". The accompanying music is nearing completion. When the recording of it is finished, a link to it will be posted here. Thank you for your patience. Please remember: This is an anthem for all of the USA.

“No Kings”

An Anthem for America

By The People, for The People

Verse 1

Two hundred fifty years gone by,

Our patriots fought and bled,

They carved a path for unity,

That wrote our country’s name;

Now chaos threatens our union,

Yet the Constitution shows,

A promise for the future,

From our Founding Fathers long ago!

Chorus 1

No Kings! No kings! No kings!, we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Fear and hate will not stand!

Verse 2

Through trials, storms, and oppression,

This vision still holds true,

Democracy’s enduring light,

Belongs to me and you;

Our Constitution guides us still,

From division and through strife,

It calls us back to Liberty,

The heartbeat of our life!

Chorus 2

“No King! No kings! No kings!” we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Injustice will not stand!

Verse 3

Thrones and crowns and kings alike,

The warning signs we face,

Our love of country sees clearly,

Tyranny’s ruthless shame;

Both red and blue we gather now,

Drawn by equality’s flame,

Our common mission raised in song,

For the USA!

Chorus 3

“No King! No kings! No kings!” we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Demagogues will not stand!

Pam Reese's avatar

Interesting comment and frightening, Tom

Elizabeth Sellwood's avatar

I was born just after the end of WWII. It coloured our days and nights. Documentaries, radio interviews, magazine articles bombarded us with insight and information constantly. My dad was in Europe, and then Germany at the end of the war. He instilled the lead-up and evolution of the rise and fall of the Third Reich into his children. He wanted us to be vigilant, and work to prevent this from happening again. And here we are. Foolishly, perhaps, I feel like I and my generation let down my father and all of the veterans from that odious war. We could see this US fascist state unfolding before our eyes. The seeds were planted long before Trump, though. He exacerbated the situation. Arrogance and greed.

Beverley Short's avatar

Tom, thanks for your thoughtful reply to Xplisset, which you are replying to in a language other than your own. It shows that people from many cultures and places on the Globe want to join with their brothers and sisters in the United States, to express solidarity and prevent any more damage by this Mafia regime - supporting those literally in the firing line, as Professor Reich clearly points out in today's SubStack posting. Kia Kaha as we say in New Zealand.

Tom van Doormaal's avatar

Does it show, that I have another language? I try to be clear, but sometimes I fear my syntax and understandability a lot.

But I should do something about all this; knocking on heavens door I must be able to tell St.Peter that I did what I could for a better world.

Beverley Short's avatar

Dear Tom, my point is that while it takes considerable effort on your part, you are offering your support. It is a simple task for me, English is my first language. For you, this is a tricky exercise, but you do it any way, for a better world for which the Angels will bless you. How interesting that titles of popular songs keep coming up. "Knocking on Heaven's Door" is a beautiful song written by Bob Dylan and performed later by Guns N' Roses, Eric Clapton and Avril Lavigne. Originally it was about the death of a frontier lawman played by Slim Pickens in the 1973 Western film "Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid".

LieHeardAroundWorld's avatar

alarming fundraising letter from a lying president who projects in lue of keeping promises. Housing, Healthcare and groceries would all be affordable! pharmaceuticals would be down 1600%, create jobs and American made manufacturing companies, stop wars, decrease the deficit, give tax payers DOGE & Tariff Dividend Checks, release the Epstein files and hold SA offenders accountable, deport violent illegal criminals & better tax breaks for working class! however the liar has produced only the opposite: Housing, Healthcare, Groceries & pharmaceuticals are soaring! we are losing jobs, starting wars, adding to the national deficit, stealing tax breaks from the working class, providing expensive tax loopholes for low paying job creating billionaires, no DOGE/Tariff Dividend Checks, protecting the villains in the Epstein files; including himself and detaining/killing/deporting tax paying hard working non-violent people in our communities. so when the president says democrats are going to confiscate your guns, what he's really implying is he'll be taking away our second amendment rights just like all the other rights & freedoms he's slowing taking away from all Americans! successfully grooming us away from the idea that the American Dream for affordable homes, Healthcare & livable wages go hand-in-hand with being apart of the working class. desensitizing us from being unsettled that so much of our money goes to war&violence within & outside of our borders. he controls the media, politicians, military, universities, corporations, lawyers & judges and soon he'll control our guns! he lies and takes and repeats; leaving his signature of blame: it's the democrats, radical left, liberal lunatics, crooked Joe Biden, Obama & Kamala fault.

Richard Brody's avatar

He is not just Hitleresque. He is the reincarnation of perhaps the most evil person to ever walk the earth. I continue to make your case. We all should do the same.

Janna Ritz's avatar

But now the news is hand held phone cameras, globally, simultaneously. That is what is different about this era. So the 40% support may be calculated from here, but what about globally. He does have a following ,and no one really brings up Bannon and his worm influences over other countries to lean right......

James Konsevich's avatar

Thank you for you insight. We also have our jobs to do to stop this madman.

Denise Donaldson's avatar

I don't think his support is at 40%; probably about 30%, but very vocal and brainwashed. But otherwise, I couldn't agree more on all points, Tom.

Charles J. Gibson's avatar

Below, is the final edition of the anthem, "No Kings". The accompanying music is nearing completion. When the recording of it is finished, a link to it will be posted here. Thank you for your patience. Please remember: This is an anthem for all of the USA.

“No Kings”

An Anthem for America

By The People, for The People

Verse 1

Two hundred fifty years gone by,

Our patriots fought and bled,

They carved a path for unity,

That wrote our country’s name;

Now chaos threatens our union,

Yet the Constitution shows,

A promise for the future,

From our Founding Fathers long ago!

Chorus 1

No Kings! No kings! No kings!, we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Fear and hate will not stand!

Verse 2

Through trials, storms, and oppression,

This vision still holds true,

Democracy’s enduring light,

Belongs to me and you;

Our Constitution guides us still,

From division and through strife,

It calls us back to Liberty,

The heartbeat of our life!

Chorus 2

“No King! No kings! No kings!” we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Injustice will not stand!

Verse 3

Thrones and crowns and kings alike,

The warning signs we face,

Our love of country sees clearly,

Tyranny’s ruthless shame;

Both red and blue we gather now,

Drawn by equality’s flame,

Our common mission raised in song,

For the USA!

Chorus 3

“No King! No kings! No kings!” we cry,

Here throughout the land,

Our stalwart voices ring aloud,

Autocracy will not stand,

Demagogues will not stand!

Robot Bender's avatar

IMHO, Godwin's Law is obsolete.

ISOequanimity's avatar

This nightmare was as predictable as it was preventable. Here are links with info on Jonathan Ross, whose father “couldn’t be more proud.” What’s missing is Renee Good saying “I’m not mad at you,” before she was shot in the face. Was “F*cking B*tch” the last thing she heard?

https://www.wbur.org/news/2026/01/09/johnathan-ross-ice-killing-renee-good-minneapolis-background.

https://www.sacurrent.com/news/ice-shooter-jonathan-ross-reportedly-married-to-filipina-who-immigrated-to-the-u-s/

Fay Wells's avatar

Hopefully the proud father will live to see his beloved son jailed for life

ISOequanimity's avatar

At a minimum, their life is very different now. Jonathan Ross and his family are reportedly on the run. Even if it’s true that they’ve amassed 400K+ in crowd funding, where will they spend it? Books will be written about the shooter, his upbringing, and his training. Since when do US military veterans shoot an unarmed mother of 3 in the face?

uRNangel423's avatar

That crowd fund that’s amassed 400K+ should go to Renee Good’s family for their loss of a mother and care for her children!

Robert's avatar

Rebecca should be facing charges as well.

Fay Wells's avatar

US soldiers were possibly shooting women and children in Vietnam; however, there weren't phones recording it. The violence has been around for decades

ISOequanimity's avatar

You’re right. But William Calley was held accountable. https://armyhistory.org/my-lai/ In this case, JDV has publicly praised the service of the shooter. BTW We also fathered and deserted a generation of “amer-Asian” babies who were shunned in their own countries. It was the purpose behind the Pearl S Buck foundation. https://pearlsbuck.org/korea-foundation/

Fay Wells's avatar

Just one conviction was pathetic given the circumstances, and Calley only served 10 years. It doesn't give me any confidence that America will serve justice now

gerald f dobbertin's avatar

Good point Ms. Wells. It is frightening that so many Americans do not realize that the whole point of a military is to kill and destroy. I am sick of this constant fawning over everything associated with the military. It has always been, at its core, throughout history, an evil institution.

Robert's avatar

“Since when do US military veterans shoot an unarmed mother of 3 in the face?”

Well, if they’re scared because of previous life-threatening experience, and have a split second to make a decision …

It occurs to me to ask what a mother was doing on the frontline anyway. It looks like a manifestation of the same mentality whereby Hamas deliberately puts children in the line of fire and to get maximum coverage from a demshevik “fake news” media, thereby fooling the “Peggys”.

Victor's avatar

Cowardly White male chauvinism has spoken. You are giving MAGA a bad image, Robert.

ISOequanimity's avatar

Or maybe the shooter was trained to do what he did. LA Times published this report in 2014: “Patrol agents have deliberately stepped in the path of cars apparently to justify shooting at the drivers and have fired in frustration at people throwing rocks from the Mexican side of the border, according to an independent review of 67 cases that resulted in 19 deaths.“ They’ve ha a dozen years since to refine their tactics. https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227-story.html

DeLani R. Bartlette's avatar

Good. May he never know a moment of peace.

JP4M's avatar
2dEdited

Renee Nicole Good made the comment, “I’m not mad at you.” so kindly, and it certainly should have been understood. There is no doubt that she meant it truly and politely.

JudithMontreal's avatar

I wonder about this monster's homelife. I wonder if his wife was beaten to a pulp when she uttered the same phrase, or something similar; "I'm not mad at you", as he the proceeds to bash her against the kitchen wall (as the kids cower in a corner).

There are a lot of these creeps out there...sadly.

Juliette Craig's avatar

His wife comes from a country where women are raised to be submissive.

JudithMontreal's avatar

You could be talking about red state USA, and the current rage that is the Christo-fascistic "trad wife" (always be submissive, always defer to your man, never challenge). Women born into many religious and oppressive countries, like Iran and Saudi Arabia, DON'T want to be oppressed, suppressed, objectified, or prevented from embracing their inherent freedoms. It's their lot in life and little they can do about it.

The USA is moving backwards.

Carol MacPherson's avatar

I don’t call someone who went to Iraq for one year a veteran.

Judith Lindquist's avatar

Friends in Minneapolis have reported many incidents of ICE brutality. ICE targets anyone of color, ram vehicles, follow people home, bang in doors, and drag people out of their homes all without warrants, while wearing bullet proof vests with POLICE on the back. Pepper spray is used on observers, and observers are threatened with guns. It sounds super scary. I applaud the brave people in Minnesota who make videos of these thugs so the rest of us know about what's happening.

Joanne Steacie's avatar

Absolutely applaud MN!

ISOequanimity's avatar

They’ve had a dozen years to practice since this report was published. “Patrol agents have deliberately stepped in the path of cars apparently to justify shooting at the drivers and have fired in frustration at people throwing rocks from the Mexican side of the border, according to an independent review of 67 cases that resulted in 19 deaths.“ https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227-story.html

Anon's avatar

Xplisset - You are correct in saying that this isn’t about anyone’s safety. This is about smashing first and then maybe gluing it back together later. Is anyone asking why ICE is being sent to the states for purposes that ICE usually doesn’t do? In Minnesota the government claims that they are investigating fraud but sent ICE. Border Patrol is a long way away from patrolling/protecting the border. Congress gave DHS way too much money (who are getting ready to fraudulently and absolutely abuse and waste it) but instead of being transparent (as they claim they are doing) and buying body cameras they are doing the opposite of documenting potential crimes to which would hold up in court. There’s a reason why they are losing their cases. All the while this administration is back to separating families from their loved ones in even more extreme ways. If we do have elections that don’t favor the party currently in the majority what’s to say that they will actually honor the vote and leave? Power and money are dangerous motivators but it is an even more dangerous time when the person knows they are going to lose it.

stephanie's avatar

Did they pass it through congress yesterday? To legal give ICE the legal right to shoot us because we protest peacefully?

Joyce T. SMITH's avatar

I may not be the only one who's thinking about this every day now: "It's late in the day ~ I must prepare my will. I could be shot at any moment, along with who knows how many others, at the supermarket, or anywhere I go. Demonstrating in the street, which we do a lot in Tucson. Driving my car." (Yet another DemntoJDump bad joke: Threatening Iran for killing demonstrators.) Though most others may already have their will prepared, unless they're invincible 20-somethings. Gabby Giffords & 18 others were shot and 6 killed on 1.8.11 here And it happens anywhere and everywhere. I'd love to end this comment on a positive note.... ❣️RESIST❣️

Ruth Sheets's avatar

Xplisset, that is what could happen if we permit it. We need to be sure we don't. The reason ICE thugs wear masks and come armed is because they are poorly-trained or possibly disturbed cowards, but we now know there are ways to figure out who they are, maybe not all of them, but some of them. We need Republicans in Congress to be reminded over and over that they are not the employees of Donald Trump, Steve Miller, or anyone else in the white house toddler pool. They are working for and were elected by the American people of their states or districts. We need to just short of embarrass them into standing up to this regime that wants to rule like Nazi Germany, something we lost a lot of lives fighting 80+ years ago.

JudithMontreal's avatar

I also believe they wear masks because the objective is to "terrorize" the population. Masks depersonalize; it's not a human face, it's a non-human entity, there is no real person there, no mercy, no compassion. It's not just illegals, Trump now intends to increase the ICE presence and numbers to such an extent that the entire population is threatened - white, brown, black, leftist, democrat, vocal opponent - no matter. ICE is scheduled to become trump's personal army, of thugs, his Gestapo, and beyond the law.

Everybody's Mamá's avatar

This is the international simple peaceful movement we are looking for. I am nobody, this movement needs a well known respected, trusted voice and platform like yours, to lead this resistance. I implore you to pick up the touch and make this your movement.

MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE - DUMP THE tRump!

The People’s Project 2026 is a International Peaceful Movement to Defeat the denomic tRump regime, his rogue ICE huntsmen, and the evil oligarchs that control them all. This movement includes economic disruptions, boycotts and more options so everyone can find ways for their families to support the Anti-tRump / Bankrupt the Oligarchs Resistance.

Public protests are important because unity helps build universal solidarity but they do not provide the requires sustained daily resistance necessary to evoke positive change like this movement does.

These are the three most vital steps:

~ 1.) There will be no support or change if our Calls for Action go Unheard - SPREAD THE WORD about our Resistance Efforts Everywhere! Convince others to join us. Use the power of the internet and every means of communication available to flood the media and get our decelerations into every home around the world. Let's go Viral!

~ 2.) Limit Your Spending - BUY ESSENTIALS ONLY - BANKRUPT THE BILLIONAIRE OLIGARCHS and Return the Power to the People! Show them we control the economy. Demand they pay fair wages and taxes. When they start losing money they will call for the tRump's resignation themselves. Boycott Amazon, boycott the USA, avoid dealing with mega American businesses, chain stores, restaurants, entertainment, delivery and travel services. This saves you time, money, helps build your emergency fund and it’s great for the environment too! Support small local community businesses whenever possible.

~ 3.) DON'T BE A tRump! Be Kind, Be the change you want to see. Provide random acts of kindness. Pay them forward. Support & Encourage each other. Look out for each other. Talk to each other. Stand up to ICE together. Courage and kindness are contagious, reach out to one another, let your people know that they are not alone in this fight. A smile can change a life - use it often. Share Meals, Swap Services, Volunteer, Donate, Help the less fortunate and anyone who may be affected by our economic disruption.

That's it - rediculously simple and easy! I have done the research. That's all it takes to end this evil madness. This is a mild form of resistance when compared to loss of life and destruction due to impending ICE raids and global threats by the tRump regime. These attacks could soon lead to civil war and/or WWIII. The regime is already planning to draft our kids. This time a world war could land on American soil if we don't end this denomic monster now.

The Game Plan contains an overview and separate articles highlighting ways the whole world can support the Anti-tRump / Bankrupt the Oligarchs Resistance - all while promoting peace and kindness!

The game plan includes these optional steps:

~ Resist and Protest Peacefully

~ Support the Resistance Organizers

~ Market Movements & Events

~ Boycott to Bankrupt the Oligarchs

~ Print, Display, Screenshot & Distribute E-posters & Flyers

~ Commit to Resist Daily

~ Distribute Money Saving Tips for Food, Healthcare & Medications

~ Promote kindness & Pay it Forward

~ Volunteer opportunities and more.

UNITED WE STAND - DIVIDED WE FALL has never been more true! This movement requires millions of people united together, resisting in multiple ways - everyday. The more participants the less impactful the sacrifices will be to each individuals. The only way this works is if we ALL do it together!

Get the full plan here; https://onemommy.substack.com/p/project-defeat-the-trump?r=113nff

Volunteers needed to translate into multiple languages and spread the word in your countries!

Leigh Horne's avatar

At the protest against the murder of Renee Good here one little girl, around the age of Renee's orphaned son, stood in her woolen hat and mittens, holding a bunch of white roses, which she later placed on a memorial, in turn with the rest of us. "What if she was harmed? Crossed my mind. She was too young and innocent to be afraid, but surely her parents were aware of the risks. That says something profound, something we'd do well to heed. What kind of a future would that little girl have in a world controlled by murderous tyrants?

Joanne Beck's avatar

HOW IT WILL BE!!!!! I love that!

Markets Zoon's avatar

Recent popular unrest in the United States reflects more than temporary instability. Persistent economic and social pressures can shift the political system away from its center. As a result, probability mass moves from the middle toward the extremes, increasing the likelihood that political power concentrates in the tails of the distribution rather than among moderate actors.

https://open.substack.com/pub/marketszoon/p/quants-of-politics?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

LieHeardAroundWorld's avatar

We pay to empower OUR GOVERNMENT! Ice is cool like unaffordable housing, increased grocery cost, soaring Healthcare premiums, bitchin' pharma fees, affordability/Livable wage hoax/lie, $1.5 trillion war budget, no justice for Epstein survivors, billionaires who create low paying jobs, forcing one religion, LESS tax deductions for working class, ripping families apart, 3 in the dome of a mother, expensive tax loopholes for the wealthy, school/university pew pewings, endangering woman's health, torturing immigrants, lying, stealing, seizing & WAR! As rights and freedoms are slowly erased from our American lives, we acclimate into modern slavery completely unaware that they'll soon take our Amendments too, even our USA favorite: The Second. He controls schools/universities, lawyers, religion, Healthcare, judges, media, politicians and military...and soon he'll control our guns too. he already rules by martial law status. we just don't realize it yet. fighting back against the power we pay to empower: OUR GOD DAMN GOVERNMENT, is vital. or the future of America looks a lot like modern day Ukraine

Victor's avatar

So how do we combat this? Trump's despotism has the full support of white supremacists. They want to deport or at least dominate non-whites, and they are willing, eager perhaps, to kill whites who stand in their way. To them, Trump's Truth is the only truth that matters, because, thus far, Trump speaks for them. This is the stance of individuals who feel threatened by foreigners, minorities, the new and the unfamiliar. When fear is coupled with resentments over perceived past wrongs hate and the potential for violence emerge. Trump and the plutocrats who support him are gambling with our very survival, and we cannot help but feel threatened and angered by what they are doing. If we become their mirror image we will surely destroy this once great country. Like the Iranian Revolutionary Guards ICE is a reactionary organization whose cruelty and brutality stems from the conceit that they protect the nation from traitors, terrorists and criminals. When we protest we must focus on behavior, not the organization itself. The same logic applies to Trump himself. We must focus on each despicable act, and let people draw their conclusions. This is a long and frustrating struggle requiring resolve, courage, discipline, and patience..We have powerful intellectual tools at our disposal, and the courts, although much weakened, still remain independent--and Trump is his own worst enemy.

Xplisset's avatar

Victor, I’m with you on staying disciplined and letting the facts do the cutting. And I’ll add one thing that keeps me weirdly hopeful: when a team is already ahead and starts playing for the highlight reel, that’s when the unforced errors pile up, Super Bowl LI style, and suddenly the clock isn’t your friend anymore. This payback posture feels like that, louder by the day, more performative by the hour, like he can’t help himself. Historically that kind of overreach is how leaders lose: the decision that creates the two-front war is often the moment the outcome gets baked in, Hitler invading Russia while already fighting elsewhere kind of miscalculation. That’s what I mean when I say payback always leaves a crime scene, because the arrogance makes them sloppy and the receipts stack faster than they can bury them. Daylight comes the same way every time: not by magic, by accumulation.

Keith Olson's avatar

There’s no doubt that we all are frogs in a boiling pot !!

Roberta Maxwell's avatar

Yes.. we have been feeling the ‘heat’ since 2016.

The temperature is rising..With the murder of Renee Good has it reached the ‘boiling’ point? 1,000 more of T’rumps Troops will be released into MLPS..What’s next?

The man has only been in power for a year..What’s next?

Ronin Core's avatar

What's next you ask? I wouldn't doubt that Trump would nuke his own country.

Klare K.'s avatar

Roberta, he's sending 2,000 more troops to Minneapolis, not just 1,000!

uRNangel423's avatar

Why does he need to send 3000+ ICE/CBP agents to Minneapolis? Because they are supporting their 1st Amendment right? And peacefully protesting?

Laurie Blair's avatar

Keith Olson, especially if we do not do whatever we can. let's hope that there are enough Governors who do what is necessary to end Citizens United. Cut off their dirty money rule. Push to defund the regime wherever it can be defunded. pressure to get justice, say it out loud when we are seeing murder for kicks. I can't believe that so many can be OK with what is happening. If Congress passes the release of the Epstein files, there must be enough votes to end this regime. 25th amendment NOW! It's do or die. it will not get better.

Donald Hodgins's avatar

Keith--No matter how perverse they become--They can only kill me once.

Catherine Logsdon's avatar

The pot's walls are too high. We don't seem to be able to jump out.

I am always amazed by how lyrics of Pink Fly Songs predict life. "In the Flesh" from The Wall could be the MAGA theme song. Without permission I'll risk copying it here:

So ya

Thought ya

Might like to

Go to the show.

To feel that warm thrill of confusion,

That space cadet glow.

I've got some bad news for you sunshine,

Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel

And they sent us along as a surrogate band

We're gonna find out where you folks really stand.

Are there any queers in the theater tonight?

Get them up against the wall!

There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,

Get him up against the wall!

That one looks Jewish!

And that one's a coon!

Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?

There's one smoking a joint,

And another with spots!

If I had my way,

I'd have all of you shot!

Laura Bloom, MSW's avatar

I prefer to call myself a lobster, thank you very much.

T.R.'s avatar

We used to say that 10-years ago; now we're in so far we've stopped noticing the water level. :(

GrrlScientist's avatar

Professor Reich: sadly, you are preaching to the choir. the people who need to know this are ignorant and unconcerned -- it will NEVER happen to me!! -- with what could happen to them or to their loved ones. these terrible events makes me wonder how long it will be before the orange rapist and his regime begin acting in the same way that iran's ayatolla and regime are acting: detaining and lining up literally thousands of people for public execution, just for protesting? i would not be surprised if the orange rapist and his gestapo are looking to iran for examples for how far they can go.

i also am ASTOUNdED to learn that the first bombings of fishers in the carribean was carried out by military planes that had been repainted to look like commercial airlines -- this is so clearly illegal that words fail me. how can the military people sleep at night knowing the crimes they are committing?

Paula Dean's avatar

Yes, when I saw that on Heather Cox Richardson's Letter, I was blown away 😱! I can't believe they found a pilot willing to do something so blatantly illegal. They will be expecting a pardon, I'm sure.

Jane DeLong's avatar

WOW I did not know this. Thank you.

Pamela Mendenhall-Howard's avatar

Jane....me neither! 😢

Laurie Blair's avatar

Paula Dean, maybe even the medal of freedom.

Diane Hayworth's avatar

If was also against the well known Geneva convention and at least one other international agreement

Anon's avatar

GrrlScientist - It wasn’t too long ago (even though it feels like it) that they got in a tiffy about what people posted about the Kirk shooting but were so quick to disparage any person unjustly shot by their own. Double standards.

Vivian Fletcher's avatar

WTH! Are you kidding me?

I also agree and have said before...how can the military carry out illegal orders?! Where is their consciences?

Joan Grabe's avatar

Don’t you see it ? Our military has been undermined by itself !! I was thinking of the many military traitors whose actions are still taught at our military academies. Benedict Arnold, Robert E Lee, Douglas McArthur, Edwin Walker, Michael Flynn among others. They are not the well trained neutral mass we have been led to believe. Has anyone heard one further word about those 2 men clinging to a boat that were deliberately finished off by orders of our general in charge off Venezuela ? Our national attention span is as fleeting as the President’s !

Charles's avatar

Joan, the Military Academy teaches about three of those commanders, Arnold, Lee and MacArthur, because of either leadership or strategic skills, not because of political decisions they made. Would it be appropriate to also point out the errors they made regarding politics or loyalty? I certainly think so.

Robert's avatar

“Has anyone heard one further word about those 2 men clinging to a boat that were deliberately finished off by orders of our general in charge off Venezuela?“

No, because it’s a nothingburger.

Robert's avatar

Interesting list:

> Benedict Arnold,

Realising he was on the wrong side during a civil war.

> Robert E Lee,

My state, right or wrong.

> Douglas McArthur,

Apparently violated the civilian control of the military. You should include Mark Milley under that heading, too, for far more serious offences.

> Michael Flynn

An early victim of the present phase of the Deep State. He knew too much about the corruption of the 44 joke zombie “administration”, and had to be sidelined/silenced.

Robot Bender's avatar

I haven't heard about the repainted planes. Where did you find that out? I want to go look at the articles.

Mike Hammer's avatar

Check out Kris Goldsmith “On Offense” on Substack. He’s an army combat veteran who did tours in Iraq and his videos give information that can be lifesaving during these times. Whether you are in a car, on foot or in your home, this information is free and provides useful legal information to tactical awareness. One example is not to take your phone to a rally but to take an old or spare one to call and take videos so when confiscated they will be unable to gain access to your sensitive data, find reasons to keep you.

Catherine Beck's avatar

WIRED suggests not taking your phone.

Susan Iwanisziw's avatar

That is certainly appropriate for foreign visitors to the USA.

Anon's avatar

Mike - It has also been reported that the government is using technology to track phones and spoofing hot spots to then gain access to your phone. Doesn’t surprise me.

Gregory Brian King's avatar

Or a 'thro-a-way', eh, folks?

Diane B's avatar

Yes we need to be peaceful as much as possible, but I refuse to be murdered without defending myself from murderous criminals disguised as law enforcement.

Mary Ann Dimand's avatar

Peacefully and noisily obstructing, objecting, and organizing against them-- and also doing so honestly and reliably.

Because this administration's conduct breaks down not only democracy, but civilization and the under appreciated institutions that have usually kept us able to live and cooperate in close proximity.

(Additional note: Sending out illegal military killers in planes disguised as civilian threatens the safety of all civilian air travel and transport.0

Carol's avatar

Even without the personal threat and the frustrating incompetence of the Trump Administration, the cruelty is intolerable to anyone who is even superficially aware of the fascist authoritarianism at the heart of Project 2026.

Patrick Alesse's avatar

February 16 is President's Day. Do you want to know how I'm going to celebrate President's Day? I'm going to send money to the DEMOCRATS. I Hope you do the same.

Paula Dean's avatar

That would be an excellent day for our former presidents to get together for a rally of some kind. I would even include GWB!

Ford Regina's avatar

Agreed. They need to speak out against what is going on.

Lana May's avatar

Yes, but our former presidents are MIA. No comments from them. They don’t want to lose their “tax breaks.”

Polly Armstrong's avatar

Hey, Obama has been yelling from the rooftops for a long time.

Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

As a co-Founder of a local Indivisible chapter I am deeply concerned by the repeated assertion in my presumably progressive home state that local and state authorities have limited power to constrain federal agents and that instances of federal overreach must be addressed solely at the federal level. This position is especially troubling at a moment when we are witnessing a lawless federal administration that is terrorizing communities, endangering lives in the name of public safety, and then attempting to obscure what actually occurred.

Paula Dean's avatar

It really is terrifying! I wonder how long it will be before neighbors start 'turning in' neighbors. The Nazis did that, and even some Jews - called 'Juden-rah' - turned in their fellow Jews. I have a few MAGA's in my building, and now I'm wondering if I should take the 'ANTI TRUMP AF' sticker off my apartment door. Even people on social media could point out Democrats.

No one is safe. But giving up is impossible.

Janet's avatar

I worry that by sending emails to my senators and congressman--all Republicans-that my name is getting put on a list somewhere--but so far I continue to do it. I am elderly and I am unable to go to marches anymore or stand on the corner holding a sign, but I have to do something.

Dennis King's avatar

Janet, our strength has to be in numbers, and we have no choice but to resist.

The alternative has been shown by history.

Dr. Iris St. John's avatar

I am also elderly and have considered the possibility that our names are being recorded. (My names was once on a Nixon list.)

Like you, I’m unable to march. Not to worry, we’ll have lots to talk about if we’re in the same cell. Remember dial telephones? GoGo boots? Making walkie-talkies with tin cans and string? The real people to worry about will be the ones on the outside of prison bars.

Paula Dean's avatar

👍👍👍💙

Dennis King's avatar

In Stalin's dictatorship the iron rule of the collective was that all material goods were to be declared to the state, under penalty of execution. One time a farmer hid some food for his family to survive a harsh winter. His young son, indoctrinated by state propaganda, brought this up at his school. Soon, state goons turned up to rip the father from his family, never again to be seen. Fascist, Marxist, Communist, Cultist...what is the difference now?

Paula Dean's avatar

Good question!

Victor's avatar

the difference now is Trump and his Project 2025--much easier to deal with. Have patience.

Barbara Jo Krieger's avatar

Paula,

Thank you for your final statement. While we have every reason to be afraid, past precedent reveals that if we capitulate we’re destined to face an even worse fate.

Currently, our local Indivisible chapter is seeking constitutional guidance from our State Attorney General’s Office. Our objective is to ensure that our work is informed by accurate, grounded, and actionable counsel—firmly rooted in constitutional law and the established authority of our Commonwealth—so that we can respond effectively and responsibly to the challenges before us.

Paula Dean's avatar

That's very smart! I applaud you! 👏

Linda B's avatar

You should definitely take that sign off your apartment door! Be courageous, but be safe! ❤️

David Blecha's avatar

No, that's what they want.

Linda B's avatar

It is, but she’s in a majority MAGA apartment building. I agree that we can’t be silent, though.

Dennis King's avatar

Barbara, you are right to be concerned about the reluctance of your state's authorities to exercise their legal powers, since they are the last bastion of justice that we have, and most federal authority has succumbed to trump. The lawless murderers and kidnappers must be held to account by the states; else we are done as a republic. trump's "Icestapo" is the key element of enforcement of his police state, and they answer only to him. History actually is repeating itself.

Paula Dean's avatar

It's easy to see how tRump admires dictators. He's using their playbook religiously, with ongoing coaching from Orban, Putin and Netanyahu.

Robot Bender's avatar

Minnesota disagrees and says they don't have immunity to state laws. Trump can't pardon someone breaking the law at the state level. They're sueing.

John Edward Cochran's avatar

What can we expect from a secret police recruited from our society's rejects: incels, "Proud" Boys, Oath Keepers, and other nefarious elements? These individuals are steeped in self-hatred that finds expression in brutality. They revel in cruelty. They celebrate our suffering.

The only effective response is love, as anti-intuitive as it may seem. We will bring them down with sustained, non-violent protests. They will fall, and they will be held to account.

SOLIDARITY SAVES.

Kath Ro's avatar

Dream On! It’ll take more than that.

Gregory Brian King's avatar

I agree Kath, look, many Jews and others, (i.e. E.European), tried that back in pre & early years of WW2. Look what it got them...

Mary E's avatar

Since Renee Good’s execution, likely by Jonathan Ross, those of Ross’ ilk have been roughing up those recording their lawless antics. The losers have been asking those recording: ‘haven’t you learned anything?’, seemingly referring to the murder of Renee Good. Yes, all of us could be next and my guess is those rabid goons who remain masked and unidentified would love nothing more than to take out some, to quote the perp, “f-in bitch”. What a lousy group this administration is, what lousy individuals they hire. Yes, all of us could be next because we are being lawfully targeted.

Ken Cooper's avatar

It’s very sad to watch this unfolding from Australia let alone what it must be like living it! I don’t think I’d get in to the US with my social media history, so, please do everything to get rid of these mongrels for yourselves and the rest of the world!

Paula Dean's avatar

We're working on it! We will fight to the end, and we are the majority.

Donna Henderson's avatar

We SHOULD! But, will we just capitulate like the Germans because we’re afraid to lose our comfy lifestyle? That is the question! I foresee our situation getting worse rapidly! When people are starving and dying because they can’t get medicine they need … what are we going to do? Because that’s coming soon!

Debi's avatar

A whole lot of us are doing the best we can and we appreciate your support.

JRM's avatar

We don’t have till 2028.

brad ziegel's avatar

You are very correct and after talking to a MAGA at the food pantry line yesterday I realized how absolutely brainwashed these people are,they will worship Trump under any circumstances and defend everything he does like a good little cultist. This man was terrifying to listen to and especially his speech to me about how it's about time the US pushes the world around to gain respect. My fear is a civil war by the midterms which Trump will try to sponsor. There appears to be a military industrial complex who are in full support of Trump and using him to keep wealth and power.

Wizarat Rizvi's avatar

Yes, anyone of us could be next We have allowed a clown in the White House and he has turned it into a circus

Dave Cregg's avatar

https://tinyurl.com/4uzpc7rj

Camouflage in a City: The Uniform of Unaccountability

Camouflage in a city is either a tragic cry for attention or a government-issued Halloween costume with a federal pension. It’s not stealth — it’s intimidation with a dress code. The message isn’t “we’re here to help,” it’s “we’re anonymous, you’re powerless, and your rights are negotiable.” And then the cartoon drops the hammer: a child, smiling, holding a balloon that promises safety — while the armed man in war gear looks at her and thinks “Terrorist?” That single thought bubble tells you everything about what this country is starting to confuse with protection.

Mweiner's avatar

we need to commit to make sure we have midterm elections- FAIR elections.

Ford Regina's avatar

The administration will do something to not allow elections to take place. They do not follow the laws. This is insanity, what is going on in Minnesota.

Isn’t Minnesota a big hunting state? I assume all those hunters have weapons. Can’t they use them to defend their fellow citizens?

Robot Bender's avatar

I'm surprised that hasn't happened already.

FWIW, in Greenland almost everyone has a high powered rifle. They subsistence hunt caribou and need to protect themselves from polar bears.