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Michelle Jordan's avatar

My question is, what did Congress expect after confirming a bunch of total incompetents, not to mention this particular alcoholic incompetent?

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bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

Let's remind the world that JD Vance cast the vote that confirmed Hegseth.

Hegseth was no more qualified for his position than was Matt Gaetz for AG

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

For that matter, neither is JD Vance qualified to be Vice President. He may have intelligence, but he clearly doesn't have a clue how to use it in a rational manner.

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Joan Halgren's avatar

JD is a sociopath too--a chameleon. (I don't understand women partnering with monsters--they must have low self-esteem.)

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Pamela's avatar

A lot of these men seem to have married foreign women. Maybe they are more accustomed to their boorish behavior. Sociopaths seem to flock together. Add Musk, the ketamine crazed man-boy to the list.

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Russell John Netto's avatar

Musk has fathered 14 children and written about his desire to found a new nation on Mars. Lock up your daughters!

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Seldom Seen's avatar

Musk upon landing on Mars:

"Hey where the white women at?"

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Richard Schoemer's avatar

the party of family values.........NOT, just hypocrites

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Seldom Seen's avatar

Good video! She is what we used to call "plastic". A Barbie Doll. Or, as I like to say, a typical Republikan kunt.

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William Farrar's avatar

The woman has no identity of her own, she is an impoverished personality, but also very typical of the American, maybe the species.

Her opinion of self is entirely dependent on the opinion of others, and she then associates herself with what she esteems is the ruling class.

1789

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Pamela's avatar

She is repugnant.

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Richard Schoemer's avatar

Birds of a feather, fail together, hopefully.

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Pamela's avatar

I can't wait.

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Laurie Schwartzer's avatar

Quite the under statement how about no self esteem?

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

Maybe she is using him as he is using her. I have a suspicion that she had a better idea of what she was taking on than he did.

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Russell John Netto's avatar

Melania is the perfect example of this. She's raking in the dough and hardly ever has go near Trump.

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Russell John Netto's avatar

JD's wife has been sent to Greenland. Don Jnr's ex-fiancee, Kimberley Guilfoyle, was packed off to Greece while he was carrying on with another woman. I wonder if there's any similarity in the two situations.

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JA's avatar

So glad you added the JDV comment! He is under experienced, too! God save our nation?

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Sheila's avatar

Oh, c’mon he has the intelligence to score highly on the T/F tests that make up most of law school testing. That’s it. Depth intelligence? Reasoning intelligence? Empathy? NADA.

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Bob Merlin's avatar

What intelligence?

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

He surely has earned a Ph.D. in BS. He couldn't make a straight statement of fact to save his life, but he ended up with a prestigious degree of some sort so he must have some brains. It's just that every single thing that comes out of his mouth is completely insane.

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Donna Maurillo's avatar

Sometimes they let you graduate just to get rid of you.

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Ann Hazard's avatar

Especially if a billionaire is footing the bill.

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Douglas D's avatar

U think criminal trump is qualified? Of course not

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Seldom Seen's avatar

I bet he knows how to make Moonshine.

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Victor Kamendrowsky's avatar

and Donald Trump is the least qualified! His bimbo nominees serve as distractions from his lack of qualifications.

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Cynthia Turner's avatar

I question how much ability he has.

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Kitty Kennedy's avatar

Pete Hegseth stated he would quit drinking if confirmed. Welp. That went over well. He appears to have the disease of alcoholism. And it’s pretty far advanced. From the looks of the gin blossoms on so many cheeks in Congress, I’d hazard a guess that many MOC are also alcoholics. So of course they approved Hegseth! Denial is not a river in Egypt, but it sure runs thru Congress.

Where is Hegseth’s bottom? Will it be an accidental war? Will it be destroying the military? Or our country? His decision making is obviously impaired and he needs to step down - yesterday.

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JA's avatar

Pete Hegseth’s name should be KEGS Seth?

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David Skoglund's avatar

Kavanaugh already has “Kegs”

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Seldom Seen's avatar

Call him "Tats"

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Peggy Martin's avatar

I call him hogsbreath

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Russell John Netto's avatar

During the leaked discussion, Hegseth boasts at one stage of guaranteeing “100 percent OPSEC – operations security” while celebrated Atlantic journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg, is reading his message. You really couldn't make it up. Hillary Clinton wrote on Twitter/X: "You have got to be kidding me."

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Janine Renee Perky's avatar

I especially like your observation, above, "Denial is not a river in Egypt, but it sure runs thru Congress. " 👏❤️

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RGHicks's avatar

Well - he was confirmed by the Senate and now we have confirmed that he's an alcoholic...What a surprise...🙄

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Kathy Hughes's avatar

He’s also a sex pest.

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RGHicks's avatar

Soooooooo true.... More than a pest actually...🙄

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Ed Weldon's avatar

Hegseth is unqualified because he lacks experience and training for the job he has. He may still have a drinking problem, but that is not something we need to focus on.

I expect the current administration to make some serious military strategic mistakes that lead to excess casualty counts due to poor leadership. This is not one such.

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JudithMontreal's avatar

Trump in the Oval = innocent people unnecessarily die (neglect, incompetence, ill conceived policies, insurrection, etc). More to come over the next four years.

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Ann Hazard's avatar

If he was drunk texting as he admitted, he definitely has a big problem.

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Ed Weldon's avatar

One other thought about this. The operating system on these smartphones, if that's what he was using, is highly prone to input errors. In the middle of a tense meeting environment of senior leaders, aides should be doing the input and cross checking for the outgoing message. Imagine for a moment a late 19th century situation where the captain of a warship has to send a message to another ship in a battle situation. (before they had radios) This was done with signal flags, one for each letter by specially trained signalmen. Do you think the captain or even the duty officer would do this? In modern days a major on a battle field situation might talk directly to an officer in another unit. But they would fully understand the limits of verbal communications by radio.

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Ed Weldon's avatar

I think he'll learn from this. Were I in his position I would find someone to be a trusted aide (a direct helper without significant military rank to watch over his physical and housekeeping shortcomings in a loving and loyal manner) Most of the flag and general officers have aides like this. A good aid suited to his particular physical shortcomings would have caught the error. There is no doubt that if Hegseth expects to keep this job he is going to have to grow into it pretty fast. It takes some maturity to accept and deal with one's shortcomings.

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Russell John Netto's avatar

Seriously, Ed? He should be sacked, along with the others involved in the discussion - Vance, Rubio, Gabbard and Waltz. The Signal messaging service these idiots used has auto-delete, a clear breach of the Federal Records Act 1950 which requires messages to be kept for a minimum period of two years. While confirming the leak, the White House has described the discussion as an example of “deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials”. During the discussion, Hegseth boasts about guaranteeing OPSEC - operational security - while the journalist was reading his message. Vance says: "I fully share your loathing of European free-loading"even though 20 countries are involved in the mission to protect shipping from Houthi attacks including British warships. The whole thing borders on farce were it not so breathtakingly serious and no military valet is going to sort this.

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Ed Weldon's avatar

Russell - You get to make your case in the 2026 election race. I'm more interested in preventing more damage in the months before that.

We were lucky this time. The enemy didn't have missiles ready to launch and shoot down our aircraft. I'm not big on sacrificing more American lives to boost our chances of winning an election. Enough of that is already happening.

You speak of diagnosis and investigation. I'm more interested in damage control. In the Navy of my memory the damage control people widely outnumbered the investigators.

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Laurie Blair's avatar

He should be off the job , like anyone else who is unfit to do it safely.

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Ed Weldon's avatar

That could happen. I doubt that it will. I have suggested elsewhere in today's comments that Hegseth would be better suited to management of Trump's plans for North America alone and stay from the playing field that involves our powerful international opponents. His lack of leadership qualities and management assets would well serve his three major opponents, Blue states, Mexico and Canada as well as the poor victims of red state regimes.

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Jersey Girl In Scotland's avatar

If anyone else working in a professional capacity where security and lives are at risk was found to be drunk whilst on duty, they would be removed & disciplined. I think very much the people of America should be concerned that the head of their military has an alcohol dependency issue! Bad enough the administration is incompetent & lives are at risk, Hegseth at the helm of the military compounds this and has done since day one when he was confirmed!

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Ed Weldon's avatar

"Should be" and "will be" are not the same. 2026 elections are 21 months away.

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Laurie Blair's avatar

Ed Weldon ; being an actively drinking alcoholic is a significant handicap for anyone with the responsibilities of his position. this is something that we need to be very concerned about. Do you have any loved ones in the military?

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Ed Weldon's avatar

The last of my family have left the United States and were never in the military. Only myself now (ex Navy).

Of course, be concerned about poor leadership, to the extent that it poses a threat. But welcome the liability it presents to those with evil ambitions.

The next step is action. I am doing what I can in this fight given the physical weakness of an aging body and the danger that my willingness to publicly articulate my position poses to my life.

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Laurie Blair's avatar

Ed Weldon. "Of course, be concerned about poor leadership, to the extent that it poses a threat. But welcome the liability it presents to those with evil ambitions.

The next step is action. I am doing what I can in this fight given the physical weakness of an aging body and the danger that my willingness to publicly articulate my position poses to my life." Is this a veiled threat? Who do you define as poor leadership? who are "those with evil ambitions"? Sounds like you are going to war. it poses a threat. "But welcome the liability it presents to those with evil ambitions." Is this a threat against anyone who opposes tRump?

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Ed Weldon's avatar

No illegal threat from me, veiled or direct. I have a First Ammendment right to verbally oppose actions by leadership as long as I do not threaten injurious physical action against individuals or definable groups.

My opposition is communicted in what we call "free speech".

I don't see how you got the idea that verbal opposition to public officials constitutes a physical threat to you or anyone else in any part of the political spectrum. And when I speak of liability that I welcome, it refers to a reduction of resources to support that individual's contribution to the success of the mission I oppose. A mission which, in the current frame of human events, consists of the establishment of a toxic authoritarian govenment in my country.

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Kitty Kennedy's avatar

He needs help.

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D . O. Olson's avatar

Or jd vance for that matter

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Ann Hazard's avatar

Or JD.

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Wendy Bloomenrader's avatar

Or RFK Jr, or Kristi Noem to name another few incompetents!

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Victor Kamendrowsky's avatar

and JD Vance is a bimbo like Pete, except that he has no qualifications whatsoever for being commander in chief, which he could become.

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Lois W. Halbert's avatar

So agreed

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Richard Schoemer's avatar

What are qualifications?

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Jenny's avatar

You speak the damn truth. Those spineless slugs approved that whole gaggle of clowns now running the circus

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

The question now is, how can we mitigate the damage and help future voters make better voting decisions?

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Laurie Schwartzer's avatar

Good question but I can’t wait for future we need to act NOW

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Klare K.'s avatar

NOW, NOW, NOW, NOW, NOW! GET THEM ALL OUT!!!

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Russell John Netto's avatar

Nailed it!

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

I am always hoping to gather ideas of how to act now -- what precisely can we do? We can speak up wherever we can, attend townhalls and rallies, and what else?

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Pamela's avatar

Plan to attend the rallies on April 5th. They are all over the country. Look up "Indivisible" if you need info.

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

My husband and I are planning on it.

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Dee of the Terrace's avatar

I'm making my sign. So many ideas of what to put on it. 'Program Deaths By 1000 Cuts', is one idea...with Social Security, Medicare, Education, Medicaid, FAA, USAID, USPS, etc, written all around the edge in red. I think that's the one. On the other side, so I can turn it around, TRUMP AND MUSK LIE, or something else. BE BRAVE...BE LOUD... SPEAK OUT. STOP THE TAKE DOWN OF OUR CONSTITUTION!. All ideas welcome. I'm going to make two signs because I have that many supplies.

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Beck's avatar

The whole chat list needs to be held accountable the same way any other DOD employee would be-- fired for breach of security Protocol.

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Klare K.'s avatar

Call representatives and senators daily! It's not rocket science!!! Get a hold of a Congressional Directory for the 119th Congress, or call the Congressional switchboard in D.C. and ask the operators to put you thru to their offices. I call daily. I call the Dept. of Justice and give Bimbo Bondi hell for not acting to move the Dumpster out and into federal prison for his treasonous crimes of insurrection both currently and in 2021!

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

I contact my own Senators and Representative regularly. I'm happy to say that they all have excellent voting records and hold town halls. But it never occurred to me to call the Dept. of Justice. So thank you for that idea.

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Jenny's avatar

You got me. And he wants to eliminate the Department of Education?!!!

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Patricia Ebert's avatar

And the clown car just keeps on rolling…geez🤡

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Seldom Seen's avatar

That would make a good poster!

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CJ Beegle's avatar

Republicans….don’t want government to work for ALL Americans.

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

How very short-sighted of them. Even Republicans have children and grandchildren who need food, clothing, healthcare, and education, not to mention parents and maybe grandparents on Social Security and Medicare for whom they might have to help pick up the slack when those programs are cut.

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Jill Stoner's avatar

This is the question I ask myself every day. The children and grandchildren. Every time I saw a picture of a toddler at a Trump rally my blood went cold. So very unfair.

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Shelley Zipp's avatar

Exactly! Just like cutting funding for NIH-they or a loved one might be diagnosed with cancer or other diseases for which NIH would be doing research in finding a cure! I’m a cancer survivor and that one of the main concerns I have, along with cutting of Social Security and Medicare. How do these people sleep at night?! 😡🤬

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Patricia Ebert's avatar

All true…but fear of Trump remains supreme

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

That's another thing I will never understand. The man is about as empty as a human being can be, with no power inherent in him -- no intelligence, no integrity, no nothing. So why do so many grant him so much power and cower in front of him? If enough people in Congress just grew a backbone and said no to him, there is very little he could actually do.

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JA's avatar

All these supporters should be asked - what do you respect about felon Trump?

1) Would you hire him?

2) Would you want to work for him?

3) Would you want your daughter to bring him home for a weekend?

4) Would you want him to babysit your children?

You have your answers! Trump is a lifeless, empty suit! He is a con man, uneducated, has no plan on anything, and useless piece of blubber! No family ethics. Dreadful husband and thoughtless father.

Why should this man be in the highest office in the World and gathering such lack of respect and admiration? What a phony!

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Greg Kapphahn's avatar

Because their own ability to be strong and independent was beaten out of them, verbally or physically the first time they tried to assert an opinion or behavior that their parents, teachers, clergy, or friends didn't approve of. Now, in order to feel like complete people, they need someone or something to fill in for that missing piece of themselves (guns also work). Many of them have emotionally attached themselves to Trump because he appears to have those personality pieces they lack. Without him, they fear they will feel like that beaten down adolescent cowering in the corner that they were when they were beaten down the first time. They NEED Trump to fill in for their deficits so much, that they will overlook who he really is in order to continue to believe he is what they need him to be.

They were set up to need a figure like Trump because they were raised so badly and abusively. Such bad parenting also leaves them with blind spots and deaf areas in their perspective which their psyche then compensates for by creating a warped worldview, which although it's full of holes, seems to them to be the totality of reality. Many of them are thus ill equipped to live healthy, productive lives because they literally can't comprehend why their lives are such a mess, but they've been raised to never accept blame and find scapegoats to hold responsible for the problems that are caused by their own deficits and dysfunctions. So here we are.

By the way, such missing pieces can be recovered with appropriate help using imaginative healing exercises, but doing so will generally get them kicked out of their "tribe."

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Victor Kamendrowsky's avatar

Billionaires don't need any of that.

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Gail T's avatar

Very, very sad... but also very, very true!

Greed and arrogance are tearing our country apart.

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Jenny's avatar

Exactly

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Oldandintheway's avatar

ALL of the people on that call should be force to resign. They obviously know nothing about national security. I believe some of them probably will have Putin on the call when they talk about Ukraine. There are some real conservative republican hawks in the senate, but still they blindly support flushing the country down the toilet.

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

They're all a bunch of toddlers who seem to think they're something special because they're playing with the Big Kids. They're fools, one and all, and I hate it that they can have any effect on our lives. I think you nailed it when you said their support is blind; as long as they can play with the Big Kids, they will say and do anything, no matter how deranged and devastating.

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JA's avatar

All those people connected to this serious call are UNserious officials. None even recognized the error in attaching themselves to such an international undertaking. None backed off to realize they were not knowing what was going on, and stopping the move.

Was it bragging by a group of men wishing to play “war games”? What was there to accomplish? Bragging rights? No adult in the room? Such a very pathetic environment! And even the VP allowed it to move on? And, the Chief of Staff?

The Atlantic magazine is a serious magazine! Much more believable than those involved who maybe have grown up with comic books!

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Yvonne Federowicz's avatar

The well-being and lives of hundreds of millions of citizens are totally irrelevant! Those Congresspeople might have lost their primaries in a couple years!!

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Is Professor Reich talking about Cheap Kegsbreath?

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Nicci's avatar

BUT HER EMAILS …. D’s where’s the outrage?????

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Gail T's avatar

Is it possible the Repubs came into office either not seeking or not wanting to accept any suggestions, recommendations or guidance from those in the Biden administration who were leaving.

Arrogance, and/ or stubbornness based on political bias, got in the way of recognizing the importance of having a smooth transition.

They set up this conference call assuming they knew the way to do it. Turns out they DID NOT know the best/ safest way to do it... and... they can't even acknowledge that a mistake was made. Sad. They aren't fooling anybody.

Are they too busy firing the people who know from experience how to have secure calls? And how to do many other things as well?!?!

The ongoing political rivalry we are suffering through in this country is not only irresponsible, unnecessary, unprofessional and very unwise... but, seems it can obviously be very dangerous as well!

Don't ever give the previous administration credit for ANYTHING!

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Dr. Doug Gilbert's avatar

An addict confirmed by a group of stock trading money addicts to work in an oligarchic administration with more money and power addicts. Seems only fitting.

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Greg Movsesyan's avatar

I’m afraid this IS what they wanted and expected.

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Michelle Jordan's avatar

Well, that's a sad idea and I have no answer to it except that I hope that getting what they wanted will teach them all a lesson. And that the rest of us will survive it and go on to build something better at the first opportunity.

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JA's avatar

This was unserious, herd mentality! Absolutely NO adults in the room! What will they do in the future? Playing games and trading cards or buying crypto?

Whew! Pretty sad and depressing!

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Greg Kapphahn's avatar

Because their psychological dysfunctions and deficits lock them into the worldview they currently hold, they are incapable of allowing anything that doesn't support that warped worldview to enter their awareness. Because of this, they are incapable of learning unless the get help to recover what was beaten out of them (verbally or physically) by those who raised them. They won't get better without help (which they won't accept). We can only do whatever it takes to remove them from power, then help them recover.

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Mary Schweitzer's avatar

CONGRESS did not confirm Hegseth. The REPUBLICAN PARTY did. And instead of asking for $3 donations all the time, the Democratic Party should be using its massive email subscription to tell them that.

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Richard Schoemer's avatar

What congress?

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Yodagirl's avatar

Along with allowing an autistic, unwanted immigrant minister without portfolio to do whatever he pleases.

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Cheryl Evola's avatar

Midterms are coming. Voters have the power. Take notes and get rid of the gutless who are more afraid of primaries than meeting their Constitutional requirements of oversight on behalf of the voters who elected them. They are useless and should be ashamed.

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GA Westover's avatar

I would love to think what the top brass in the military think of that pig.

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Leonor (Lenore) Delgado's avatar

Depends who's left in the top brass...

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Yvonne Federowicz's avatar

Even the middle brass must be dreading what orders will come from these brain-pureed bigots.

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David A Pitock's avatar

Language that is not repeatable I would think!

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Morris Gray's avatar

why do you think he got rid of so many of the top brass.

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Dee of the Terrace's avatar

Because they serve the Constitution NOT him!

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Deb's avatar

We know they will not follow him or the president. This is key. My niece is an officer in the navy and they will fight for ys and the constitution and democracy.

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Alexandra's avatar

As would I as a former Marine officer. Your niece is honorable; something lacking in our current political so-called "leadership".

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Joan Grabe's avatar

They are Constitutionally silent ! What they are thinking is anybody’s guess. That pardoned lying traitor Michal Flynn was a former major General.

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Steve O’Cally's avatar

Don’t ask. Don’t tell.

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Bill McClain's avatar

The last part of the Borowitz piece was the best:

"According to national security experts, a journalist was given access to highly sensitive war plans that are normally available only to people using a public bathroom at Mar-a-Lago."

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Pamela's avatar

Funniest thing I have heard in weeks.

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Klare K.'s avatar

Too funny, isn't it?

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Dale J Gordon's avatar

DUI hire.

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Susan Dean's avatar

That's brilliant. We should all refer to him that way.

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VermontGirl57's avatar

Well consider that done! ….along with “Dick” trump

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Dee of the Terrace's avatar

Maybe now that means, 'Deciding While Under the Influence'.

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David A Pitock's avatar

Love it

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J Cheng's avatar

Perfect!

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Jodi's avatar

So this guy (and the other stooges on the app with him) is the “merit hiring” that America needs to be great again?! Yeah, great at incompetence.

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Leonor (Lenore) Delgado's avatar

Truly not laughable, but Borowitz makes it so!

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brianna tracy's avatar

So this is contrite?

He’s giving up texting?

Talk about an alternate reality!

The line that fits best for me is from the McCarthy era, when a senator asked McCarthy if he had “no shame “

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Jeanne Gail's avatar

That was Margaret Chase Smith, our senator from Maine

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Marcia Power's avatar

A great woman. Sadly, Susan Collins, who admires Senator Smith, has failed to live up to her example.

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brianna tracy's avatar

Yup

That figures

Bri

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Elizabeth Ann McFadden's avatar

I just rewatched a Fox segment listening to Hegseth rant on and on about Hillary's emails being a threat to our country. Bet you won't hear any of this on Fox

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bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

But, Hillary was a GIRL. We can't have GIRLS in roles that God intended only for white alcoholic males!

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VermontGirl57's avatar

correction….rich, white, incompetent, alcoholic males

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Seldom Seen's avatar

Hillary would have made a fine President.

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VermontGirl57's avatar

LOVE ur screen name

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Suzy Fraser's avatar

So incredibly scarey. What is it going to take to stop the craziness?

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Joan Halgren's avatar

I am hoping one-by-one they implode due to actually having to work with all eyes on them: pressure wins!

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JA's avatar

Sure would make me feel better if the Democrats acted as if they noticed - and said so!

Wake up nation and World! This is more than serious from the UNserious MAGAs!

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George Bond's avatar

Trump did it in his first term so I guess he is delegating some lying out but keeping his most of it. I figured the pressure of the job would bring out our SecDef drinking habits

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Greg Movsesyan's avatar

Hegseth is the poster boy for the Peter Principle. He even has the right name.

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Bob Jenkis's avatar

Hopefully their ineptness will be their own downfall.

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Noelle Thomas's avatar

Fantastic, true Borowitz sardonic humor. He captured the reality of this disgraceful bunch of sychopants

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Bill Fennelly's avatar

Give him a break. The journalist’s phone number was just one digit different than Putin’s. An honest mistake anyone could make

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Dee of the Terrace's avatar

That's a good one Bill...LOL

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Alan Schnur's avatar

Every Dem in Congress, every Dem everywhere, should be in front of a camera or microphone, screaming about this, using words like 'incompetent,' irresponsible,' 'jeopardizing the lives of American soldiers,' and, whenever possible, weaving in 'fucking morons!' Blame it squarely on Trump. Because we know he'll blame it on Biden and Obama.

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Patricia Brennan's avatar

Once again these evil morons prove they are not capable of running anything let alone this country. At least it was Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic who has the intelligence and patriotism to not reveal sensitive information. My God what will it take to wake up the country before its really too late.

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Dee of the Terrace's avatar

We are all asking just that! I watched his moron/minions sit around a big table recently as he called on each one to praise him and blow hard about how much they appreciate and revere him. It's quite a nauseous show. They really have it down. We have NEVER seen such an act with any president before this. Is this what happens with Putin in Russia? The praise is sickening...and some want to carve his image on Mount Rushmore. He's jones-ing for the Nobel Peace Prize as well as wanting to be King of all the Americas and Canada & Greenland. His ego needs to be shot off into space on one of elon's rocket ships...one that blows up...and scatters his ego into space. I like that cartoon image. It's trump in SP-A-A-A-A-A-CE!

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